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highplainsdem

(48,875 posts)
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 04:25 PM Aug 2012

Salon: Ayn Rand vs. the pope - The two contradictory philosophies warring for Paul Ryan's soul

http://www.salon.com/2012/08/14/ayn_rand_vs_the_pope/

This naturally begs the question of how a devout Catholic can follow the social justice theology of the church yet also idolize an atheist that preached the “virtue of selfishness.” Somehow in Paul Ryan’s mind, Jesus Christ and Ayn Rand are complementary figures, not warring factions in defining how an individual should lead a moral life.

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It isn’t cynical to ask whether Ryan, seeing his career trajectory in ascendancy, chose to not alienate his socially conservative Christian base by repudiating a marginal philosophy he repeatedly touted in the past. But by doing so, he calls into question his intellectual honesty, particularly since his new intellectual role model, Thomas Aquinas, had a habit of writing collectivist things too: “Man should not consider his material possession his own, but as common to all, so as to share them without hesitation when others are in need.”

Interestingly enough, though, there is one rare area where the modern Catholic Church and Ayn Rand agree, and that’s the immorality of war. Unfortunately, this is the one area where Ryan breaks rank with both his intellectual models. Not only did Ryan vote in favor of the Iraq War, his budget proposal increases defense spending.

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Everyone has ideological idiosyncrasies, but some people hold beliefs so diametrically opposed to each other that you have to question their sincerity or their intellectual integrity. To tweak Lincoln’s famous line, a mind divided against itself cannot stand. And Paul Ryan is nothing if not divided against himself.
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Salon: Ayn Rand vs. the pope - The two contradictory philosophies warring for Paul Ryan's soul (Original Post) highplainsdem Aug 2012 OP
What soul? Warpy Aug 2012 #1
My thoughts exactly Freddie Aug 2012 #2
I too, thought it was odd that such a fine Christian would buy into the thoughts and ideas notadmblnd Aug 2012 #3
I have seen bigger intellectual phonies and frauds than Lyin' Ryan hifiguy Aug 2012 #4
that would be FirstLight Aug 2012 #5
If Ryan is a good Catholic, then Pope Ratfinger is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood Tyrs WolfDaemon Aug 2012 #6

Warpy

(111,106 posts)
1. What soul?
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 04:28 PM
Aug 2012

He wasn't using it so he sold it to Satan by the time he was out of college.

It would be nice, however, if Rome tried to slap politicians down over something besides abortion.

Then again they really don't give much of a shit about anything but keeping women poor and powerless and dead at a young age.

Freddie

(9,255 posts)
2. My thoughts exactly
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 04:33 PM
Aug 2012

The Bishops talk nice about the poor, but the only thing that really matters to them is zygotes, and keeping women in their place. Paul Ryan is 100% Bishop-approved in those areas.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
3. I too, thought it was odd that such a fine Christian would buy into the thoughts and ideas
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 04:34 PM
Aug 2012

of an atheist? I mention it in a thread here somewhere.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
4. I have seen bigger intellectual phonies and frauds than Lyin' Ryan
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 04:45 PM
Aug 2012

out there in the march of history but I will not name them. I have no desire to incite a flame war.

Tyrs WolfDaemon

(2,289 posts)
6. If Ryan is a good Catholic, then Pope Ratfinger is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 08:13 PM
Aug 2012

But then again I recall hearing that Jack the Ripper was in fact the Loch Ness Monster, so perhaps Ratfinger is a secret Muslim

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