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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPrediction: The Mueller hurricane will sweep the Trump presidency off the face of the earth.
In 2020 a new leader will rise and lead America out of this darkness. 2019 will be a very dark year. A year that will go down in history as one of the craziest years ever in our history that will be studied, debated for decades.
Grasswire2
(13,565 posts)It might bring us a shooting war at home.
We will soon see.
Who's the buttercup?
pbmus
(12,422 posts)This election is choosing democracy over fascism....
The cult of trump will lose or we are lost as a nation.
Pachamama
(16,884 posts)I hope you are correct....its what I pray for daily....
Kablooie
(18,612 posts)You can bet Trump will fight hard and fight dirty.
He's not going to go down easily and will do his best to leave as big a path of destruction in his wake as possible.
Horse with no Name
(33,956 posts)it's starting to feel like the bad guys are getting a foothold....
davekriss
(4,616 posts)My opinion: We have a blossoming Hitler in office and complicit Republican House, Senate, SCOTUS, and judiciary in general. The Republicans also own a solid majority of the state houses and governorships. We witnessed a reactionary coup in 2016. I can see Trump nullifying the election this year, claiming Chinese hacking, preventing a Democratic majority to be seated. These are truly scary times. Restoring our democracy will not be easy.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and the extremist religious right. We should be proud of our enemies. All those groups who mean to destroy government of, by and for the people have to defeat us first.
Saving our democracy could still turn out to be easy for each of us, in that our part is, or was, simply to vote, and perhaps to speak out, but if it goes wrong it may be not be quick. These elections may be stolen, and if they are we will have to endure and fight much longer. And that could require more than showing up for a few minutes every 2 years.
The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing
muriel_volestrangler
(101,271 posts)to vote against the psychopath Trump. But the Republican senators are not decent people, and enough of them will reckon they can get re-elected by other deplorables if they ignore the findings (so they'll refuse to convict him, even if a Democratic House majority impeaches him).
2019 will be, as you say, "one of the craziest years ever in our history", as will be 2020, with vote suppression on a scale never before seen. I think the decent people will win in the end, but it'll be a nightmare of a battle. And the deplorables won't go gently after that. Apart from violence from the crazies, the sore losers will continue to try and game the system - using deplorable RW judges they have installed before that.
JDC
(10,117 posts)Cicada
(4,533 posts)It is legal for those in the US to place bets at Predictit. I have read betting markets are more accurate than polls. Admiral Poindexter, the honest person who admitted his Iran contra dishonesty when others didnt, was resurrected in the W Bush administration, a role in the CIA. He proposed a betting market to harvest the collective wisdom of crowds, to improve CIA estimates. But bettiing on things like whether The Prime Minister of country X would be assassinated by June 30 2019 pissed off some people. So they let him go. He was just ahead of his time. 55% seems too low to me. But I would give good odds Predictit is smarter than I am in general.
TruckFump
(5,812 posts)Drain the swamp!
elocs
(22,546 posts)you will see people here and on the Left throw him under the bus. Unless Trump is forced to resign and is hauled off to prison there will be those on the Left howling and screaming.
I remember Fitzmas, the bragging confidence about how Bush and Cheney were going to be frog-marched to The Hague.
not_the_one
(2,227 posts)Your characterization of our "High hopes and sky-high expectations" sounds like we are making a mountain out of a mole-hill.
turdface has, in effect, dismantled the very foundation of our country. Even with the best possible outcome, we may never be able to undo the harm.
With the many crimes turdface has committed, he must be held accountable. It must be made crystal clear, NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW. We don't need a report. We need indictments.
Releasing a report to the Republican Congress, who will not allow it to be released to the public, and who will do nothing about it, will accomplish absolutely nothing.
We all hope there will be a blue wave, but with the voter suppression, ballots being blocked, we will even know if there was one?
We can not allow this to become another Fitzmas.
turdface is now actively trying to provoke violence. We must be ready.
And if WE are successful, we must expose ALL the instances where the republicans have stole, lied and cheated their way into office.
Although many will get sidetracked into arguing over technical definitions, actively attempting to overthrow our government by illegal means, or preventing the due course of honest and fair elections is treason.
The republicans need to be held accountable for their treason, and punished accordingly.
We don't have to play "dirty" like they do, all we need to do is expose the truth. Their own truth will provide all the dirt that is needed.
And my apologies for insulting all turds.
malaise
(268,715 posts)Rec
FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)The latter may just wind up accomplishing the former, but it's the height of foolishness to depend upon - or even expect - such an outcome.
edhopper
(33,484 posts)have at least on House of Congress next month.
If they don't it won't matter what Mueller found.
They just ignored a man was a rapist to confirm him, you thing a little treason will matter?
Mr.Bill
(24,244 posts)of pinning my hopes for the fate of the country on a bunch of republican FBI agents.
TeamPooka
(24,209 posts)Only we can save ourselves.
bucolic_frolic
(43,062 posts)When people start valuing health, nature, stability, and human relationships, I will have hope.
Until then all they want is more of everything, and keep the SUV's and McMansions coming, and that feeds corporate profits which feed portfolios which feed Republicans. It's a closed loop, unless economic equality and a sane tax system supplant it.
Mueller seems not to be a factor in this system.
D23MIURG23
(2,845 posts)I've read enough analysis recently to be skeptical of the possibility. Jonathan Turley wrote an op-ed suggesting that Mueller probably won't bring any kind of case about obstruction, and another article I read suggested that his findings may never be made public.
I would love for Mueller to provide a smoking gun for impeachment, but IMO it's looking more doubtful. We really need to take the house this election (at very least - getting the Senate as well would be the best case scenario) to give the Dems some investigative power.
sellitman
(11,605 posts)I have a gnawing feeling Mueller's investigation will take down everyone but Trump.
Feeling like my hopes will be dashed.
Maybe out of experience?
Hope I'm dead wrong.
I'm usually not.