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Rustynaerduwell

(663 posts)
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 03:04 PM Oct 2018

I'm 57 years old. Of all the Republicans who became President in my voting life

more than half of them became President without being elected by the majority of voting Americans. Only Reagan and Bush 41 came into office with a popular vote election win. Did anyone here realize this?

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I'm 57 years old. Of all the Republicans who became President in my voting life (Original Post) Rustynaerduwell Oct 2018 OP
Nixon won the popular vote twice. Bleacher Creature Oct 2018 #1
I was too young to vote for him Rustynaerduwell Oct 2018 #2
Bush43 won in 04 D_Master81 Oct 2018 #3
Re-election is a different issue... Wounded Bear Oct 2018 #5
I guess I shoulda made my point better. Rustynaerduwell Oct 2018 #6
If you were of voting age while Ford was in office Blecht Oct 2018 #17
Bush43 stole Ohio in 04. lagomorph777 Oct 2018 #7
Thank you! Stinky The Clown Oct 2018 #14
Exactly. SammyWinstonJack Oct 2018 #18
After stealing the first election you think they suddenly went honest in the second one? lunatica Oct 2018 #11
I wouldn't be surprised... clementine613 Oct 2018 #13
Jimmy Carter won the popular vote in 76 maveric Oct 2018 #4
If I recall correctly, Carter was not a Republican jberryhill Oct 2018 #8
Duh! My bad. maveric Oct 2018 #10
Yes, WE are the majority-- in the Senate and House, too... and as a Californian, deurbano Oct 2018 #9
Yes! Fellow-Californian here, who looks at Alaska, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, and the Dakotas... VOX Oct 2018 #15
I have heard that from different people and sources BigmanPigman Oct 2018 #12
& what they won was by dirty tricks UTUSN Oct 2018 #16
They hang on only because of the features of our system treestar Oct 2018 #19

Rustynaerduwell

(663 posts)
2. I was too young to vote for him
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 03:10 PM
Oct 2018

I said "my voting life" to make that clear (I thought). Of the five Republicans after him who became President, only Reagan and Bush I came into office with a popular vote majority.

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
3. Bush43 won in 04
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 03:11 PM
Oct 2018

But I get what you mean. Really there’s only 4 GOP presidents in your life so 50% did and 50% didn’t.

Wounded Bear

(58,625 posts)
5. Re-election is a different issue...
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 03:17 PM
Oct 2018

Most Presidents get more votes in re-election than when first elected.

Rustynaerduwell

(663 posts)
6. I guess I shoulda made my point better.
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 03:19 PM
Oct 2018

Bush 43 would not have been re-elected if he wasn't all ready President. I did say "came into office". And I was of voting age while Ford was in office; he became President without a vote. Three out of the last five Republican Presidents were not decided by the people and you guys wanna get technical. I'm kinda sorry I posted this.

Blecht

(3,803 posts)
17. If you were of voting age while Ford was in office
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 06:24 AM
Oct 2018

you are not 57 years old. Ford left office before you were 16 years old.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
11. After stealing the first election you think they suddenly went honest in the second one?
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 03:31 PM
Oct 2018

Yeah, sure.

deurbano

(2,894 posts)
9. Yes, WE are the majority-- in the Senate and House, too... and as a Californian,
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 03:27 PM
Oct 2018

I'm pretty sick of hearing that all those "excess" votes from California shouldn't count for anything. I don't see why states with so few people in them should have such an outsized effect in the Senate or why those rural areas with so few people in them should have such an outsized effect in the House... and since the number of Electoral College electors for each state is the number of representatives plus the two senators, the outsized effect continues into the executive branch. Also, Washington DC should have a full representative in the House and two Senate seats. (Not to mention Puerto Rico...)

VOX

(22,976 posts)
15. Yes! Fellow-Californian here, who looks at Alaska, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, and the Dakotas...
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 11:33 PM
Oct 2018

And counts fewer than 4 million people TOTAL in those six states, but with the representation of 12 senators between them.

California's population is nearly 40 million, with the representation of 2 senators.

In what universe is that equal or fair? Talk about the tail wagging the dog.

BigmanPigman

(51,582 posts)
12. I have heard that from different people and sources
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 03:32 PM
Oct 2018

for over a year. It is brought up when discussing how we have lost the current SCOTUS due to GOP cheating and lying to get elections won ever since Reagun. 6 out of the last 7 elections the Dems won the popular vote...this has been a GOP set-up since Reagun. We have corporations contributing to elections since they are "people" and propaganda stations on TV with free reign to lie non stop for the GOP. We have churches and religions with more political and financial power and the NRA is allowed to finance political campaigns. Bill Maher said last week that if the popular vote presidents were allowed to be president 7 of the 9 justices would be Dem justices.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
19. They hang on only because of the features of our system
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 10:16 AM
Oct 2018

that allow a minority to have disproportionate power, rural people. The Electoral College and the Senate do that. Even the House - I read somewhere that Democrats got more votes overall, yet the Rs have a house majority. I would think districts would be drawn to have the same population for each district. The House should have more like 1000 members with the current population.

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