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Thu Oct 18, 2018, 01:13 AM

a disturbing thought Re: saudi journalist

Do you think that trump is purposefully trying to show what can happen to journalists? You know that there are many that would gladly break out the bone saws.

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Response to DonCoquixote (Original post)

Thu Oct 18, 2018, 01:15 AM

1. I think he is letting the Saudis show what can happen,

and allowing whatever inferences can be drawn.

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Response to DonCoquixote (Original post)

Thu Oct 18, 2018, 01:17 AM

2. No offense but I thought that was quite obvious.

Those people in the newsrooms best get on the stick now that their own lives are endangered.

Go ahead, expose these monsters for what they are.

Unemployment is temporary. Self-respect lasts a lifetime.

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Response to DonCoquixote (Original post)

Thu Oct 18, 2018, 01:19 AM

3. of course

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Response to DonCoquixote (Original post)

Thu Oct 18, 2018, 01:26 AM

4. The WAPO reporters seem very shaken

Many of them knew Khashoggi, and very much understand what happened to him and why.

Trump's eagerness to lick the Saudi royal family is surely noted.

The WAPO just posted Khashoggi's final column-- it's heartbreaking-- about press freedom.

Trump has allied himself with murderers. What can we do with that?

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Response to dawg day (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 18, 2018, 04:42 AM

9. Thanks for that news about Jamaal

Khashoggi's final article, dawg day.

I hope he gets Justice.

Mark Leneker
New York, NY1h ago
Times Pick

Trump and his enablers may not know this yet, but Khashoggi is turning into every despot's nightmare, one of the few things no dictator can intimidate, lie out of, or effectively fight against: A Martyr.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11290304



Jamal Khashoggi: Fiancée of missing Saudi journalist appeals directly to Trump for help

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/09/politics/jamal-khashoggi-fiance-op-ed-wapo/index.html

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11290608

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Response to DonCoquixote (Original post)

Thu Oct 18, 2018, 01:29 AM

5. Trump has no forward thinking

Everything he does is reactionary to events around him and wondering how he can spin those events to his personal benefit. Or he lobs out bombshells to see how every one else reacts.

Trump wings EVERYTHING. He is incapable of forward thinking or planning. It's why his businesses were utter failures and his Twitter stream is an ugly stream of consciousness. There is no filter nor even thinking involved. Planning and discrete messaging is simply beyond him.

Kushner on the other hand....

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Response to lamsmy (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 18, 2018, 07:39 AM

12. Yeah, This

Let's not give Trump too much credit for being able to think and plan or too little credit for being amoral and focused only on himself. It cannot be stressed enough how much this guy does not care about ANYTHING that isn't about him. Or know about anything that doesn't benefit him. Not only does he have no empathy, he doesn't understand why, or even THAT, other people do.

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Response to DonCoquixote (Original post)

Thu Oct 18, 2018, 01:30 AM

6. Trump isn't the author of this. He just doesn't give a f*ck because the Saudis give him money.

Trump wouldn't have known who this guy was until somebody asked him or told him.

The sick thing about Trump is that he doesn't care someone was tortured, murdered, and dismembered (not necessarily in that order). Not when "his money" is on the line.

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 18, 2018, 05:37 PM

18. To say that Trump didnt know of this guy is missing the narrative.

https://www.businessinsider.com/why-jamal-khashoggi-left-saudi-arabia-writing-ban-2018-10

Jamal Khashoggi was barred from writing in Saudi Arabia after he criticized then President-Elect Trump, then left his native country.

Jamal Khashoggi was barred from writing and making public appearances by the Saudi royal family after he criticized President Donald Trump in late 2016.

When Trump gives the same exact excuse as he did for Kavanaugh, "Ya know, I talked to him and he denied it. I believe him." that should have made peoples ears perk up.

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Response to DonCoquixote (Original post)

Thu Oct 18, 2018, 02:58 AM

7. It is interesting to note that per an article in The Independent (are they reliable?),

Saudi Arabia banned Khashoggi for criticizing Trump in 2016.

[link:https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-donald-trump-journalist-banned-for-criticising-us-president-elect-a7456956.html|

Knowing how depraved Trump is. he probably delighted in the journalist's death.

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Response to DonCoquixote (Original post)

Thu Oct 18, 2018, 03:33 AM

8. no, i think it's the same as with the Russians/Putin. bought off and/or blackmail

 

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Response to DonCoquixote (Original post)

Thu Oct 18, 2018, 06:50 AM

10. Just think he is an opportunist

Who is using this opportunity to enrich himself from the Saudis...

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Response to DonCoquixote (Original post)

Thu Oct 18, 2018, 07:22 AM

11. NO...

Tell me, in this conspiracy theory, which evil agents are going to do Trump's dirty work?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #11)

Thu Oct 18, 2018, 04:51 PM

13. go to any right wing site

and there are people happy to volunteer.

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Response to DonCoquixote (Reply #13)

Thu Oct 18, 2018, 05:28 PM

14. ...who would get rounded up by the police or FBI if they tried something.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #14)

Thu Oct 18, 2018, 05:37 PM

17. But by then the damage would be done, the seed would be planted. nt

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #11)

Thu Oct 18, 2018, 05:36 PM

16. It doesn't need to be a state-sanctioned actor to make it a real threat

One random guy with a .308 is all it takes.

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Response to DonCoquixote (Original post)

Thu Oct 18, 2018, 05:31 PM

15. Yes

That is the message.

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