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Thu Oct 11, 2018, 07:20 AM

Is it just me, our could Obama, Biden, Harris, Bernie, or basically anyone else...

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...with a bit of political capital do more to help candidates like Beto, Rosen, Nelson, or Bredesen make up ground in their respective races. There should be a full press to help push these candidates across the line and all I'm really hearing from "leadership" is crickets.


On edit: Had Heller on here when I meant, obviously, Rosen.

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Reply Is it just me, our could Obama, Biden, Harris, Bernie, or basically anyone else... (Original post)
SKKY Oct 11 OP
Funtatlaguy Oct 11 #1
Ninga Oct 11 #4
bearsfootball516 Oct 11 #2
In It to Win It Oct 11 #3
SKKY Oct 11 #5
In It to Win It Oct 11 #8
Nanjeanne Oct 11 #6
Hassin Bin Sober Oct 11 #9
WeekiWater Oct 11 #13
JI7 Oct 11 #17
Nanjeanne Oct 12 #37
WeekiWater Oct 12 #38
Nanjeanne Oct 12 #39
InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 11 #27
mcar Oct 11 #7
hexola Oct 11 #10
PoliticAverse Oct 11 #28
NurseJackie Oct 11 #11
SKKY Oct 11 #15
NurseJackie Oct 11 #21
SKKY Oct 11 #25
InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 11 #29
SKKY Oct 11 #31
InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 11 #32
WeekiWater Oct 11 #12
SKKY Oct 11 #14
JI7 Oct 11 #16
SKKY Oct 11 #19
LanternWaste Oct 11 #18
SKKY Oct 11 #20
LanternWaste Oct 11 #23
SKKY Oct 11 #26
Hassin Bin Sober Oct 11 #22
LanternWaste Oct 11 #24
InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 11 #30
xmas74 Oct 11 #33
OilemFirchen Oct 11 #34
SKKY Oct 12 #35
OilemFirchen Oct 12 #36

Response to SKKY (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 07:22 AM

1. Each campaign is different. Some want national help and some don't.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 07:39 AM

4. I've been volunteering for campaigns for decades. Candidates want endorsements and candidates

want anyone and everyone who is willing to speak in support. No doubt. A majority.

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Response to SKKY (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 07:29 AM

2. I think it could help Rosen and Nelson. Texas and Tennessee on the other hand, I'm dubious.

Those are still really red states. I've been saying from the beginning that I expect Beto and Bredesen to do much better than Democrats typically do in Texas and Tennessee Senate races, but I also don't expect the final tallies to be close. Hope I'm wrong though.

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Response to SKKY (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 07:38 AM

3. For Texas...

I think someone from Texas like Wendy Davis, unless sheís given up campaigning for people, would be a better help than Obama or Harris or anyone else.

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Response to In It to Win It (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 07:52 AM

5. Perfect, but at least someone, right? It seems like the Dems have resigned themselves to the fact..

...that the Senate is out of reach. And it may be now, but I don't think it was 4 weeks, or even 2 weeks ago.

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Response to SKKY (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 10:58 AM

8. It's not impossible

The fact that we even have a chance at the senate is a miracle. Our number one priority is the House because we know for sure we can take it. The map is tough for us but it is possible.

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Response to SKKY (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 07:54 AM

6. Sanders is campaigning in nine states for Dem candidates. They are

Indiana for Liz Watson, who is trying to unseat Republican Rep. Trey Hollingsworth, and ends Oakland, California, with a rally for Rep. Barbara Lee,
Iowa -- for J.D. Scholten, who is challenging GOP Rep. Steve King
Michigan to campaign for Democratic gubernatorial nominee Gretchen Whitmer i
Wisconsin for a rally with Sen. Tammy Baldwin and other Badger State Democrats in Milwaukee,

His Western swing begins with a pair of events with progressive favorite David Garcia, who is challenging Arizona Republican Gov. Doug Ducey.
Colorado, for Rep. Jared Polis, who is favored to become the first openly gay man elected governor in US history.
In Nevada, Sanders will hit Reno and Las Vegas to support Rep. Jacky Rosen in her race to unseat Republican Sen. Dean Heller.

Before Sanders wraps his nationwide swing in California with Lee up in Oakland, he will rally down in San Diego with House candidates Mike Levin, who is vying to take over retiring GOP Rep. Darrell Issa's seat, and Ammar Campa-Najjar, whose bid to flip the district held by Rep. Duncan Hunter

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Response to Nanjeanne (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 11:02 AM

9. Thats Bernie! Doing the heavy lifting once again.

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 11:14 AM

13. Has he endorsed any of the candidates mentioned in the op? N/T

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Response to WeekiWater (Reply #13)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 01:22 PM

17. pretty sure they don't want his endorsement

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Response to WeekiWater (Reply #13)

Fri Oct 12, 2018, 09:26 AM

37. Since he is campaigning for Rosen I would say yes. Since Bredesen said he woukd

vote for Kavanaugh I would guess it wouldnít help him to have Sanders endorse him. Nelson in Fl it might not be beneficial. He has endorsed others in FL though. Beto is a puzzlement as his platform is Bernieís and his fundraising machine is too.

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Response to Nanjeanne (Reply #37)

Fri Oct 12, 2018, 09:30 AM

38. So one out of four, possibly.

I don't see him listed in Rosen's endorsement list.

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Response to WeekiWater (Reply #38)

Fri Oct 12, 2018, 10:09 AM

39. Don't know what your point is. He is appearing with Rosen on the campaign trail. And

with other Dem candidates like Tammy Baldwin and Barbara Lee and has endorsed candidates like Andrew Gilliam and Stacey Abrams and If he isnít going to be of value to Beto (as Obama appears not to be as well) then isnít it good he isnít endorsing? Why would someone who would vote for Kavanaugh and is running in TN want his endorsement?

Oh wait ... I answered my own question so you donít have to. Your point is Bernie bad man. Got it.

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 01:39 PM

27. haha HBS... took the EXACT words out of my mouth!! Bernie ALWAYS doin the heavy liftin!!

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Response to SKKY (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 08:24 AM

7. It's just you

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Response to SKKY (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 11:05 AM

10. Beto didn't want an Obama endorsement

Texas optics...

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Response to hexola (Reply #10)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 01:41 PM

28. Indeed. Beto was left off both lists of Obama endorsements. n/t

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Response to SKKY (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 11:08 AM

11. Oh, good Lord.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #11)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 01:16 PM

15. Don't you "Oh, good Lord" me Missy!

Seriously, am I off base by asking this? It just seems to me that, given a little bit more involvement by some Dem "heavy hitters", we could have done something in the Senate.

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Response to SKKY (Reply #15)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 01:28 PM

21. ...

Don't you "Oh, good Lord" me Missy!


I think it's a mistake to continually accuse or suggest that our Democratic leaders are lazy, or negligent, or that they don't care.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #21)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 01:34 PM

25. Oh, I don't think they're lazy...

...I just don't understand why they aren't getting more involved. That's all.

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Response to SKKY (Reply #25)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 01:43 PM

29. Never hafta worry about Bernie gettin lazy... he never gets tired of workin his azz off...

setting a good example to help Democrats get elected.

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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #29)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 03:07 PM

31. I get exhausted just listening to the man speak...

...kinda like my 5 year-old. Where do they get their energy from?

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Response to SKKY (Reply #31)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 05:23 PM

32. It's a gift! Bernie is like the Energizer Bunny...other politicians his age, or even younger...

can't keep pace with him.

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Response to SKKY (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 11:13 AM

12. I'm not sure Sanders would be willing to endorse Nelson over Scott.

Or O'Rourke over Cruz for that matter.

Has sanders even made and endorsement in the races you mention?

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Response to WeekiWater (Reply #12)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 01:14 PM

14. He hasn't, which makes me wonder....

...his he not "Bernie" enough for him? I just don't get the silence, but as some have pointed out, perhaps I'm missing the finer minutia of the local politics of each individual race.

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Response to SKKY (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 01:20 PM

16. Heller is a republican. and no, they can't help Beto and Bredesen

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Response to JI7 (Reply #16)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 01:25 PM

19. Yea, my bad....

...updated. I obviously meant Rosen.

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Response to SKKY (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 01:23 PM

18. O'Rourke's in an odd position.

He's doing good. Far better than anyone would have given credit for ten months ago. Part of the reason for his better-than-the-average-dem-in-TX is that he's NOT talking down to conservative voters. At all.

Case in point-- his advertising campaign says absolutely nothing negative about conservatives, his opponent, or the conservative movement-- and despite the DCCC ads running here which are negative, they are absent his endorsement.

In fact, his messaging mechanism is to speak to TX as a whole rather than dividing us into numerous constituencies and demographics, and then tailoring a message to each.

Bringing anyone (anyone) in from outside TX could easily upset this balance he has. Bringing in Obama or Clinton could easily, at this point, cost him far more votes than they would add.

I can't address the other states and other candidates, but in O'Rourke's case, I think he's doing as good as he can with or without more help.

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #18)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 01:27 PM

20. My point exactly...

...I genuinely think a bit more help could push him over the line. And even if we don't get the majority in the senate, what kind of message would it send to flip Texas??

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Response to SKKY (Reply #20)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 01:29 PM

23. No. Not at all. Outside help would potentially hurt him.

Would most likely hurt him.

The endorsements from the Obama's, the Clinton's, the Sander's, etc. would hurt his chances with TX voters more than help him.

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #23)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 01:35 PM

26. Fair enough...

...I'm sure if Beto thought it would help he would have reached out.

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #18)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 01:29 PM

22. You mean a candidate is not supposed to call the other candidate's voters names? Go figure.

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #22)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 01:33 PM

24. I don't know if one is supposed to or not.

I do know that in TX, talking down to, and dismissing conservative votes would most likely reduce his numbers.

I can't address how purple or blue states do their thing... but it would be absurd for them to take the same tacking O'Rourke is, as the routes are very different from here to there.

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #22)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 01:46 PM

30. Since when does cowtowin' to conservatives win elections for Democrats? I recommend kickin em

when they go low like Ted KKKruz, just as Eric Holder suggested... that's the way to win!!

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Response to SKKY (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 05:31 PM

33. I know in Missouri

It's probably best for McCaskill to receive as little on the ground campaign support from the big wigs as possible. The commercials already call her a "Pelosi Democrat", etc.

Each state is different. I'd suspect that O'Rourke would have a similar approach in that aspect.

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Response to SKKY (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 06:33 PM

34. How fascinating that, of the people you mentioned in your tiitle, only Senator Sanders is a mononym.

It's absolutely precious!

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Response to OilemFirchen (Reply #34)

Fri Oct 12, 2018, 09:09 AM

35. I'm not sure if you're serious, or making fun of me....

...I will just say that when I hear the name "Bernie", I immediately think of Bernie Sanders. And unfortunately, it works the other way as well. When I hear the name "Donald", I don't immediately think of Donald Duck, Donald Glover, or Donald Sutherland.

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Response to SKKY (Reply #35)

Fri Oct 12, 2018, 09:22 AM

36. When you hear Barack, who do you think of?

Are there a lot of Kamalas in the news of late?

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