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Thu Oct 11, 2018, 12:31 AM

black kid who was lost and knocked on a door for directions? Video released HOLY MOLY

seeing it is so much scarier than reading description of the event. Guy pulls out a shot gun and takes aim. Tried to shotgun him in the back.


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Reply black kid who was lost and knocked on a door for directions? Video released HOLY MOLY (Original post)
Demovictory9 Oct 11 OP
JI7 Oct 11 #1
Timewas Oct 11 #2
vlyons Oct 11 #8
Turin_C3PO Oct 11 #12
pansypoo53219 Oct 11 #20
Arkansas Granny Oct 11 #19
hexola Oct 11 #31
LanternWaste Oct 11 #34
Arkansas Granny Oct 11 #44
ck4829 Oct 11 #22
HopeAgain Oct 11 #26
GemDigger Oct 11 #28
HopeAgain Oct 11 #29
GemDigger Oct 11 #30
LanternWaste Oct 11 #33
GemDigger Oct 11 #35
flygal Oct 11 #41
GemDigger Oct 11 #42
Drahthaardogs Oct 11 #36
Hoyt Oct 11 #39
Turin_C3PO Oct 11 #45
Hoyt Oct 11 #46
Turin_C3PO Oct 11 #48
aikoaiko Oct 11 #43
More_Cowbell Oct 11 #3
Demovictory9 Oct 11 #4
JI7 Oct 11 #5
Doreen Oct 11 #11
JI7 Oct 11 #14
Doreen Oct 11 #15
JI7 Oct 11 #17
Doreen Oct 11 #18
roamer65 Oct 11 #6
safeinOhio Oct 11 #23
lostnfound Oct 11 #7
mahina Oct 11 #9
Buckeye_Democrat Oct 11 #10
obamanut2012 Oct 11 #21
Drahthaardogs Oct 11 #37
Turin_C3PO Oct 11 #13
pnwmom Oct 11 #16
Coventina Oct 11 #27
aeromanKC Oct 11 #40
Hermit-The-Prog Oct 11 #32
dalton99a Oct 11 #47
In It to Win It Oct 11 #24
ck4829 Oct 11 #25
Hoyt Oct 11 #38

Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 12:37 AM

1. that guy is representative of the majority of gun owners

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Response to JI7 (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 12:40 AM

2. Seriously?

You actually believe that....

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Response to JI7 (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 01:08 AM

8. no, he is not

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Response to JI7 (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 01:48 AM

12. I seriously doubt it.

I’m not a gun owner but I used to be around them a lot. Yes, a few were nutty about their guns but none of them would have done something like what was done in that video. I know their are some like in the video but I refuse to believe it’s anywhere near a majority.

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Response to Turin_C3PO (Reply #12)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 05:00 AM

20. MAGA! make amerika WHITE AGAIN!!

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Response to JI7 (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 04:34 AM

19. That's a pretty broad brush you have there. He does not represent most gun owners.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Reply #19)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 10:15 AM

31. He represents TOO MANY!

Are there a 1000 people protesting outside this douchebags house yet?

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Reply #19)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 10:20 AM

34. Is not saying he's not representative also a broad brush of gun-owners?

Seems to me, saying that he is or isn't both illustrate the same unsupported style of generalities in regards to the target demographics.

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #34)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 10:57 AM

44. FWIW, I said "most" gun owners. I know a good many gun owners to compare this behavior to.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 05:12 AM

22. +1

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Response to JI7 (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 10:02 AM

26. Careful...

There's a lot of gun humpers on here. Unfortunately gun control does not seem to be a serious tenet of the Democratic Party anymore.

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Response to HopeAgain (Reply #26)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 10:07 AM

28. Well golly gee.

I am a gun humper and have no problem with gun control. That was a very large brush you just used to paint with. Sounds like something a republican would use.

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Response to GemDigger (Reply #28)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 10:10 AM

29. Then you are in favor of banning all assault weapons?

or do you have a million in one reasons why it can't be done like most gun lovers?

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Response to HopeAgain (Reply #29)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 10:14 AM

30. Read what I said again.

I will ignore your snark.

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Response to GemDigger (Reply #30)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 10:18 AM

33. I dig how you indict others for the same things you do

"Sounds like something a republican would use."

"I will ignore your snark..."

It's as if you're holding others to a higher standard than you hold yourself to.
But I'm certain you'll rationalize quite differently... as something it is in fact, not.

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #33)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 10:21 AM

35. Point taken.

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Response to GemDigger (Reply #28)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 10:32 AM

41. Yes. I'm also from Montana and grew up with a house full of hunting rifles.

All my brothers took hunters safety and I never feared guns. Then came the pistols and the NRA rhetoric and the shooting AR 15s and now there are two family members homes I will not go into because they are certified gun nuts and would probably defend that guy with the shot gun.

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Response to flygal (Reply #41)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 10:39 AM

42. I have family members like that too but I am not afraid of them shooting me.

If their weapons are free roaming (not locked) I certainly wouldn't let kids go there and I sure as hell wouldn't start talking politics.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 10:23 AM

36. No he's not.

He's represent of the racists, fearful, crazy Trump Humpers. Most gun owners wouldn't do that.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 10:26 AM

39. Well, the majority of gun-strokers are white wing GOPers. And vast majority of those are racists.

So do the math. It's a fair statement.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #39)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 12:59 PM

45. Many gun nuts are racist, that's true.

But not all gun owners are gun nuts. My dad has a few guns (a shotgun and two rifles I believe) but he’s as liberal as can be, hates the NRA, and is for fairly strict gun control. He’s embarrassed by gun humpers and won’t associate with them.

Also here in New Mexico, many Hispanics own guns to hunt with and they are, by and large, good Democrats.

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Response to Turin_C3PO (Reply #45)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 01:05 PM

46. Wish more were like your dad. But even gunners here like their so-called assault style

semi-autos, have to strap a pistol or two on to walk out the door, and are fine with doing nothing to control access to more guns, even when a bunch of school children are killed or another unarmed teenager is shot.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #46)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 01:09 PM

48. Yeah gun nuts are assholes.

I’ve noticed many are also neo nazis, literally. My dad stopped going to gun shows years ago because they started selling nazi and kkk memoribilia and many of the attendees were fascinated by it.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 10:42 AM

43. I call BS on this statement.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 12:49 AM

3. The shooter claims that he slipped and the gun fired

A jury watching that video will be hard-pressed to believe that, I think.

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Response to More_Cowbell (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 12:50 AM

4. wife should be charged too. she's the one who began screaming at the sight of a black person

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Response to More_Cowbell (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 12:55 AM

5. if they can get enough Trump voters on the jury he could still go free

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Response to More_Cowbell (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 01:36 AM

11. Uhm, am I seeing it wrong or did I see him slip twice?

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Response to Doreen (Reply #11)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 01:56 AM

14. in the video the OP posted ? he didn't slip at all in there

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Response to JI7 (Reply #14)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 02:03 AM

15. I was being funny about the "slipped" part.

I know there was no slip but it looked like he fired twice and if he did will he claim he slipped twice?

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Response to Doreen (Reply #15)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 02:11 AM

17. yeah, i wouldn't be surprised if he did do that

but if they can get a jury full of trump supporters that's all that would take to go free .

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Response to JI7 (Reply #17)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 02:18 AM

18. Unfortunately you are right.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 01:00 AM

6. Hopefully he is being charged with attempted murder.

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Response to roamer65 (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 07:01 AM

23. Convict him to make sure

he never owns or possesses a fire arm for the rest of his life..

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 01:02 AM

7. I feel like crying thinking about 14 year old being treated like this

What a complete asshole.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 01:24 AM

9. What a chickenshit. They are so afraid. Poor fools.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 01:33 AM

10. The asshole shooter at least seemed to point the barrel in the air...

... before firing, so I doubt that attempted murder will stick.

He should still be charged for terrorizing the kid!

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Response to Buckeye_Democrat (Reply #10)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 05:05 AM

21. No he didn't -- he shot at the kid

I watched it in slow-mo like five times. Luckily, the child was a fats runner, and this racist ass is a bad shot.

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Response to Buckeye_Democrat (Reply #10)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 10:24 AM

37. No he did not

He was looking right down the rib of that barrel

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 01:50 AM

13. Motherfucker better be convicted.

I’m so sick of the racism in this country.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 02:05 AM

16. Det. Pace: ""He took a big drink of water, looked at me and said, 'I'm tired of being a victim.'"

https://www.theoaklandpress.com/news/copscourts/jurors-view-video-of-rochester-hills-shooting-as-trial-continues/article_3f07f548-cca1-11e8-8e16-1b5ad08f57c5.html

Also taking the stand Tuesday was Detective Shawn Pace, who said during his investigation, his assessment of what had allegedly happened at the Zeigler house — a home invasion attempt — changed as he watched the surveillance video.

“When I saw that video, my thought process switched...I knew which direction I had to go. I was shocked,” Pace testified. After viewing it a second time, he said he was “charged up, because I was offended by what I had seen.”

Pace also testified that Zeigler gave some conflicting details as he recounted what he said had happened, but “emphatically denied ever taking aim” at the teen and was consistent with his claim that the gun fired after he slipped.

At one point, Pace testified, he told Zeigler that he had taken aim at Brennan. “He took a big drink of water, looked at me and said, ‘I’m tired of being a victim.’ That was it,” Pace said.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #16)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 10:04 AM

27. I'm so heartily sick of bullies claiming to be victims.

My disgust knows no bounds.

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Response to Coventina (Reply #27)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 10:31 AM

40. #HimToo

It's the Trump excuse

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #16)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 10:16 AM

32. thanks for link!

That leads to more articles, too.

Sure wouldn't want to view the world through Zeigler's eyes.

(Can't see the video).

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #16)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 01:05 PM

47. +1

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 07:07 AM

24. ...and people wonder why I'm for gun bans

Either everyone has a gun or no one has a gun. Anything in between doesn’t work. People do stupid things with guns.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 09:54 AM

25. Good God

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 10:24 AM

38. Another deplorable white wing gun-humper shoots an unarmed black teen in back. n/t

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