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Wed Oct 10, 2018, 11:01 AM

Trump Administration Seeks to Stifle Protests Near White House and on National Mall

By Arthur Spitzer, Legal Co-Director, ACLU of D.C. OCTOBER 9, 2018 | 6:45 PM

President Trump has a record of attacking the rights of protesters, from suggesting that protest be illegal to praising dictators who crush any kind of dissent.

Now, the Trump administration proposes to dramatically limit the right to demonstrate near the White House and on the National Mall, including in ways that would violate court orders that have stood for decades. The proposal would close 80 percent of the White House sidewalk, put new limits on spontaneous demonstrations, and open the door to charging fees for protesting.

Fee requirements could make mass protests like Martin Luther King Jr.’s historic 1963 March on Washington and its “I have a dream” speech too expensive to happen.

The public has until October 15 to comment on the plans, and on Monday, we submitted our formal written comment explaining why the planned changes are unconstitutional.


https://www.aclu.org/blog/free-speech/rights-protesters/trump-administration-seeks-stifle-protests-near-white-house-and

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Reply Trump Administration Seeks to Stifle Protests Near White House and on National Mall (Original post)
workinclasszero Oct 10 OP
Solly Mack Oct 10 #1
summer_in_TX Oct 10 #67
Solly Mack Oct 12 #81
Achilleaze Oct 10 #2
Tommy_Carcetti Oct 10 #3
TwistOneUp Oct 10 #61
badhair77 Oct 10 #4
workinclasszero Oct 10 #7
badhair77 Oct 10 #22
bdamomma Oct 10 #34
CharleyDog Oct 10 #24
bdamomma Oct 10 #46
OhNo-Really Oct 10 #5
rainy Oct 10 #6
TheBlackAdder Oct 10 #8
BeckyDem Oct 10 #9
iluvtennis Oct 10 #10
calimary Oct 10 #27
BeckyDem Oct 10 #37
LuvNewcastle Oct 11 #78
Hermit-The-Prog Oct 10 #65
SCantiGOP Oct 10 #11
workinclasszero Oct 10 #25
Fla Dem Oct 10 #36
workinclasszero Oct 10 #43
PufPuf23 Oct 10 #58
John Fante Oct 10 #63
CharleyDog Oct 10 #26
calimary Oct 10 #31
Raven123 Oct 10 #12
NastyRiffraff Oct 10 #13
dembotoz Oct 10 #15
ZZenith Oct 11 #73
dembotoz Oct 11 #79
N_E_1 for Tennis Oct 10 #42
bluestarone Oct 10 #14
bdamomma Oct 10 #47
SWBTATTReg Oct 10 #16
Mr.Bill Oct 10 #20
SummerSnow Oct 10 #40
BigmanPigman Oct 11 #70
58Sunliner Oct 10 #17
pangaia Oct 10 #18
workinclasszero Oct 10 #38
NoMoreRepugs Oct 10 #45
pangaia Oct 10 #54
onethatcares Oct 10 #19
bdamomma Oct 10 #48
mahatmakanejeeves Oct 10 #21
debsy Oct 10 #44
mahatmakanejeeves Oct 10 #49
debsy Oct 10 #51
nolabear Oct 10 #23
CharleyDog Oct 10 #32
Gothmog Oct 10 #28
Freethinker65 Oct 10 #29
SergeStorms Oct 10 #62
greatauntoftriplets Oct 10 #30
CharleyDog Oct 10 #33
Raven123 Oct 10 #35
Totally Tunsie Oct 10 #39
Luciferous Oct 10 #55
NoMoreRepugs Oct 10 #41
Gothmog Oct 10 #50
malthaussen Oct 10 #52
workinclasszero Oct 10 #53
onecaliberal Oct 10 #56
bitterross Oct 10 #57
Hortensis Oct 10 #59
workinclasszero Oct 11 #72
Hortensis Oct 11 #74
Grasswire2 Oct 10 #60
bdamomma Oct 10 #64
scarletwoman Oct 10 #66
LiberalFighter Oct 10 #68
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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 11:04 AM

1. K&R

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Response to Solly Mack (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 11:37 PM

67. Want to officially comment on the Trump Admin proposal?

Here's the link to the ACLU's page that allows us to comment on the National Park Service's proposal to limit protests near the White House and the National Mall, and maybe charge fees for groups planning to protest.

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Response to summer_in_TX (Reply #67)

Fri Oct 12, 2018, 11:10 AM

81. I did it here. Posted my comment.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 11:04 AM

2. Dirty Donny* (R) is such a whimp

His little ego so dainty & delicate that he cannot bear the reality of democracy, or even reality itself. He is so much like America's enemy, and his BFF, Pooty Poot. Sad.

* aka republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 11:06 AM

3. It worked so well for Viktor Yanukovych.

If Trump doesn't believe me, he can ask Paul Manafort.*

*Collect calls only.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #3)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 07:48 PM

61. Re: Collect calls only. BwaHAHaha! nt

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 11:07 AM

4. He just never lets up. It's never enough - he thinks he needs to quiet every dissenting voice.

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Response to badhair77 (Reply #4)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 11:29 AM

7. Yep

Trump and the GOP will outlaw protest and dissent against his Russian backed regime and then claim Americans support his unconstitutional thugocracy.

I can see the SCOTUS case already.




Oh wait...........

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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #7)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:01 PM

22. Remember when he said the women's March in Jan 2017 was there in support of him.

Delusional.

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Response to badhair77 (Reply #22)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:30 PM

34. he has always been lashing out or

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Response to badhair77 (Reply #4)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:19 PM

24. autocrats are like that, there is never enough control over the population

That's why journalists, environmentalists, women must be murdered. If not murder, then prison. Then population must be suppressed.

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Response to badhair77 (Reply #4)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:45 PM

46. he thinks he needs???

he again shows his disdain for democracy, such a wanna be dictator, he loves them dictators doesn't he. He did comment that during his visit to North Korea, he wanted the recognition from the people to stand up straight when he came by.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 11:07 AM

5. I believe we tax payers pay for those spaces. We have property rights

oh and constitutional rights as well and we out number park service

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 11:25 AM

6. Like George Bush's "free speech zones."

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 11:33 AM

8. There was a Penn & Teller Bullshit! episode, lots of people wanted to give up the right to protest.

.

They even interviewed that asshole, Dick Armey, and even he supported protesting.

It dealt with Taxes, and the episode itself was called "Taxes!" and look a Libertarian view of them.

It was surprising how many people signed a fake petition to ban protests around Washington DC.


The following is NSFW:

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6ph67u


Man, the Republicans have really swung to the side of Russia!

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 11:38 AM

9. Authoritarian rule because he knows he has NO REASONABLE way to support his fucking policies.

Therefore no dissent.

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Response to BeckyDem (Reply #9)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 12:14 PM

10. +++ agree.

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Response to BeckyDem (Reply #9)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:23 PM

27. It's because that's the way he did it in the private sector.

All he saw was the White House became a larger version of the Trump Organization.

So we're seeing the same dishonesty, sneaky shit, bullying, intimidating, corner-cutting, smoke screening, gaslighting, lies, denials, distractions, distortions, and manipulations that trump used when he ran his little "family business" in midtown Manhattan. When he was accustomed to nobody looking over his shoulder or questioning or complaining or challenging. That's what he's known all his life. The way his dad did it and the way Roy Cohn advised him to up the ante on it. Granted, he's having some trouble adjusting to how government works, so he's trying to disembowel the government to make it work the way he's used to having it work in the private sector. Where it was HIS company. And he was KING of that company - that little private fiefdom where every way was Donald's way, and Donald was the law and Donald was god and everybody fawned and worshipped and obeyed without no questions asked.

This is how he ran things in the private sector in New York City and beyond. And I suspect he presumed it'd just be the same kind of thing in which he could be in total control because he owned it and it was nobody's business what he did or what he was up to, or with whom. Only just a whole lot bigger. All it meant to him is that his little private mercenary criminal empire expanded to engulf the whole country - and beyond. His mistake was that this is the federal government and as such, it's EVERYBODY'S business. He's not accustomed to having to answer to anybody or be transparent about anything. Just the continued concealment of his tax returns should be enough proof.

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Response to calimary (Reply #27)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:33 PM

37. All true. I frequently come back to show my anger at media who loved him for ratings

long before he ran in 2016. He was always a piece of shit con man who owed hard working people money on his jobs. But they never went after him the way they should have. He earned societies scorn but that seems to mean very little, instead they lifted up his entire phony persona. It still angers me and often.

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Response to BeckyDem (Reply #37)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 08:05 AM

78. Yes, the press made Trump what he is.

He's had media eating out of his hand every time he pulls some stupid stunt. Who was it that ever thought that asshole was newsworthy? I've never seen him do anything in his entire life that was worth all that attention! Just knowing the right people can get a person very far. Too far, in this case.

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Response to calimary (Reply #27)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 08:38 PM

65. and the Repugnant party does not dispute his view

Ryan, McCONnell and the rest of the Greedy Old Perverts just kiss TrumPutin's ass.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 12:14 PM

11. Good

Let’s see how they arrest 400,000 people.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #11)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:20 PM

25. Something like this I imagine

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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #25)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:33 PM

36. I never heard of this. How horribly we treated veterans of WWI.

The fact we look to both MacArthur and Eisenhower as heros and yet they treated their fellow soldiers like this. It's amazing this didn't set off a nationwide insurrection. Also amazed at how well this was coordinated before the days of social media.

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Response to Fla Dem (Reply #36)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:41 PM

43. Yep there were many shameful acts comitted by this nation, thats just one

But kids will never be taught this in school, rest assured of that.

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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #25)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 03:50 PM

58. Thank you for the Bonus Army video.

One would think the GOP would learn from history but the same dark forces of the 30s (and earlier) exist and even reign into the present.

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Response to PufPuf23 (Reply #58)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 07:59 PM

63. The GOP is learning from history.

They want to emulate it.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #11)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:23 PM

26. I'm guessing Dump doesn't like the singing and "LIAR" "TREASON" lighted signs on *his* sidewalk

that have been there daily since his wimpy performance with big Daddy Putin.

Too bad, Dumpy. RESIST!!!

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Response to CharleyDog (Reply #26)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:25 PM

31. Welcome to DU, CharleyDog.

Of course he doesn't like it. If he could exert the full power he thinks he has, he'd probably try to have us all arrested.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 12:28 PM

12. A First Amendment Tax?

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 12:30 PM

13. Great way to incite mass disobedience

Brilliant move, Trump.

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Reply #13)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 12:34 PM

15. would cut turnout...i can not afford to be arrested

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Response to dembotoz (Reply #15)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 05:11 AM

73. Then you must learn to live on your knees.

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Response to ZZenith (Reply #73)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 08:28 AM

79. Pick and choose ur battles

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Reply #13)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:41 PM

42. +1... my thoughts exactly

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 12:31 PM

14. The way i look at it is WE KNOW IT BOTHERS THEM SO

Let's do it MORE!!!!!!!!

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #14)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:48 PM

47. exactly

we hit a nerve, the filthy repigs especially McConnell was scared.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 12:35 PM

16. Won't go very far...infringes on 1st amendment rights too much...nt

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Response to SWBTATTReg (Reply #16)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 12:54 PM

20. They don't care about the 1st amendment.

Better angle would be for all protesters to carry guns and claim they are violating our 2nd amendment rights.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #20)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:41 PM

40. Whats that?

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Response to SWBTATTReg (Reply #16)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 12:21 AM

70. That's what I am thinking too.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 12:54 PM

18. fascist police state on the way....


do more than vote..

CAMPAIGN..
door to door
phone bank
post cards
letters
emails
stand on a corner
bumper stickers

anything

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Response to pangaia (Reply #18)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:35 PM

38. Yes let recap

Republicans gerrymander the hell out of every state they control

Republicans block Obama's pick for SCOTUS so Shitler can pack the court with radical GOP rubber stamps

Republicans get rid of the voting rights act and immediately start mass purges of democratic voters, concentrating on PoC

SCOTUS rules dark money equals free speech so billionaires can freely buy the government they want and make it their willing instrument

Texas police at the urging of a local GOP operative, threaten a citizen with arrest for displaying an anti-GOP lawn sign on his private property.

And now BLOTUS moves to make protest illegal or so expensive no mass protest will happen, as in the 2017 Women's March at the beginning of Orange Hitlers reign or MLK's Poor People's March on Washington in 68.

NTM the kidnapping of children at the border and incarcerating them in Trump's gulag.

Is it abundantly clear now that the GOP and Trump/Putin have performed a fascist coup in this nation???

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Response to pangaia (Reply #18)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:43 PM

45. Don't forget.....DONATE.

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Response to NoMoreRepugs (Reply #45)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 02:21 PM

54. Ooppss. I COULD I have forgotten tyhat.

I keep asking folks here to donate.


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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 12:54 PM

19. I think it's time

for "We the People" to show up on the National Mall en masse. We need to set a date prior to the mid terms or after?

One day, one purpose. Of course it would be spontaneous.

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Response to onethatcares (Reply #19)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:52 PM

48. we hit a nerve

and we need to do it again, We can bully them too. We have the right too.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 12:55 PM

21. From the press release:

Now, the Trump administration proposes to dramatically limit the right to demonstrate near the White House and on the National Mall, including in ways that would violate court orders that have stood for decades. The proposal would close 80 percent of the White House sidewalk, put new limits on spontaneous demonstrations, and open the door to charging fees for protesting.

Proposed National Park Service changes

DRAFT Proposed Rule – August 7, 2018
Official Proposed Rule will publish in the Federal Register, search "RIN 1024-AE45"

Go to Regulations.gov:

Special Regulations, Areas of the National Park System, National Capital Region, Special Events and Demonstrations

This Proposed Rule document was issued by the National Park Service (NPS)

For related information, Open Docket Folder

Action
Proposed rule.

Summary
The National Park Service proposes to revise special regulations related to demonstrations and special events at certain national park units in the National Capital Region. The proposed changes would modify regulations explaining how the NPS processes permit applications for demonstrations and special events. The rule would also identify locations where activities are allowed, not allowed, or allowed but subject to restrictions.

Dates
Comments must be received by October 15, 2018.

Addresses
You may submit comments, identified by the Regulation Identifier Number (RIN) 1024-AE45 by any of the following methods:

Electronically: Federal eRulemaking portal: http://www.regulations.gov. Follow the instructions for submitting comments.
Hardcopy: Mail or hand deliver to National Park Service, National Mall and Memorial Parks, 900 Ohio Drive SW, Washington, DC 20024, Attn: Brian Joyner.

Instructions: All comments received must include the agency name (National Park Service) and RIN (1024-AE45) for this rulemaking. Comments will not be accepted by fax, email, or in any way other than those specified above. Comments received will be posted without change to http://www.regulations.gov, including any personal information provided. Before including your address, phone number, email address, or other personal identifying information in your comment, you should be aware that your entire comment including your personal identifying information may be made publicly available at any time. While you can ask us in your comment to withhold your personal identifying information, we cannot guarantee that we will be able to do so. To view comments received through the Federal eRulemaking portal, go to http://www.regulations.gov and enter 1024-AE45 in the search box.

For Further Information Contact
Brian D. Joyner, Chief of Staff, National Park Service, National Mall and Memorial Parks, (202) 245-4468, NAMA_Superintendent@nps.gov.
....

Proposed Rule
The NPS proposes to revise the regulations applicable to demonstrations and special events that are held within the National Mall and Memorial Parks and President's Park. The NPS intends these revisions to (i) modify regulations explaining how the NPS processes permit applications to conduct activities in these areas; and (ii) better identify locations where activities are allowed, not allowed, or allowed but subject to restrictions. The NPS intends these changes to provide greater clarity to the public about how and where demonstrations and special events may be conducted in a manner that protects and preserves the cultural and historic integrity of these areas.

The supplementary information contained below will explain the proposed changes to existing regulations in section 7.96 of Title 36, Code of Federal Regulations (36 CFR 7.96). These regulations govern activities within the National Mall and Memorial Parks, President's Park, and other administrative units subject to section 7.96. These other units—such as portions of the Chesapeake and Ohio Canal National Historical Park, National Capital Parks-East, George Washington Memorial Parkway, and Rock Creek Park—are located nearby the National Mall and Memorial Parks and President's Park. The NPS encounters management issues related to demonstrations and special events in these locations that are similar to those encountered in the National Mall and Memorial Parks and President's Park. In some cases, a single event such as a foot race will cross through several of these units. The administrative benefit of having a uniform set of regulations and permit processes for units in close proximity to one another supports applying the proposed changes in this rule to all of the units that are subject to section 7.96. This will allow the NPS to better manage these events and provide service to the public. The applicability of section 7.96 to the National Mall and Memorial Parks, President's Park, and these other units is discussed in more detail below.

A summary of the proposed changes is contained in the following table, along with a citation of the regulation that would be changed. The proposed changes are discussed below in the order they appear in the table below. In addition to the changes listed below, the proposed rule would reorganize several paragraphs in section 7.96 without changing any of the text.

{snip}

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #21)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:42 PM

44. I was just typing in "what you can do about this"...

and you beat me to it.

Recap:

1) go to www.regulations.gov
2) enter 1024-AE45 in the search box
3) click the "Comment Now" button
4) type in your comment and follow the "Continue" button to the last page where you will submit your comment.

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Response to debsy (Reply #44)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:57 PM

49. You sound like a frequent flyer at Regulations.gov. Which is a good thing.

Thanks.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #49)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:59 PM

51. Lol - I actually haven't been there much before but fully intend on going there more frequently!

I saw this post and it drove me to the site

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:07 PM

23. He wants to destroy The Kremlin Annex.

They’ve been there for how many months now? And they’re not getting nearly the attention they deserve.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #23)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:26 PM

32. exactly right. Since Dumbo went to meet Putin and his disgrace was for all the world to see. nt

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:24 PM

28. trump hates the First Amendment

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:24 PM

29. Paging Justice Roberts!!! Do you want Trump's desires to be your legacy?

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Response to Freethinker65 (Reply #29)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 07:49 PM

62. We all know....

how Kavanaugh would vote. "Yes sir Mr. President, sir".

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:25 PM

30. Spanky would outlaw protests if he could.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:28 PM

33. Now pathetic weak cheater Dump thinks the SC will uphold his fascist plans

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:32 PM

35. Maybe they are afraid of the Second Amendment

Can't deny anyone a gun, but they can hide from the results of their own doing.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:39 PM

39. OUR house, OUR sidewalk, OUR National Mall...

To take a page from Nikki Haley's comments yesterday, it's OUR protest and we'll put it where we want to!

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Response to Totally Tunsie (Reply #39)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 02:23 PM

55. +1000!

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:41 PM

41. Proud to have responded to this draconian measure.

Go to the link and type a short statement, it takes a minute or two. You'll feel better for having done it.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:57 PM

50. Trump Says Exploiting Hacked Emails Is Free Speech

Trump likes the First Amendment only when it helps him https://politicalwire.com/2018/10/10/trump-says-exploiting-hacked-emails-is-free-speech/

In a motion to dismiss a new lawsuit accusing President Trump’s campaign team of illegally conspiring with Russian agents to disseminate stolen emails during the election, Trump campaign lawyers have tried out a new defense: free speech,” The Atlantic reports.

Trump lawyers argued that the First Amendment protects the campaign’s “right to disclose information—even stolen information—so long as (1) the speaker did not participate in the theft and (2) the information deals with matters of public concern.”

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 02:01 PM

52. "Charging fees for protesting."

Really, that is the most Trump thing ever -- making people pay money to hate him.

-- Mal

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Response to malthaussen (Reply #52)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 02:17 PM

53. Kinda like the old poll tax scam but extended to stop protest

Poll taxes in the United States
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Voter registration

Payment of a poll tax was a prerequisite to the registration for voting in a number of states until 1966. The tax emerged in some states of the United States in the late 19th century as part of the Jim Crow laws. After the right to vote was extended to all races by the enactment of the Fifteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, a number of states enacted poll tax laws as a device for restricting voting rights.

The laws often included a grandfather clause, which allowed any adult male whose father or grandfather had voted in a specific year prior to the abolition of slavery to vote without paying the tax. These laws, along with unfairly implemented literacy tests and extra-legal intimidation, achieved the desired effect of disenfranchising African-American and Native American voters, as well as poor whites.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poll_taxes_in_the_United_States


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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 02:48 PM

56. That house he lives in is The Peoples House. That stuoid fuck works for taxpayers

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 02:55 PM

57. Kavanaugh will vote with him on this.

Things like this are why Kavanaugh was their man. Erode the liberties little by little.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 03:57 PM

59. Just sent two messages. We're ACLU members, but

we managed to miss this un-American outrage, so I really appreciate your posting it here.

Thank you, Workinclasszero.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #59)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 01:02 AM

72. Sure thing

It's mind boggling how Trump and the GOP wipe their fat ***** with the Constitution everyday and the media never raises an alarm.

If it was a democrat, impeachment trial would start next week for this and all the other crimes Trump has committed in the two years of his GOP dictatorship!

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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #72)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 06:05 AM

74. And if it were yet another verbal attack on the press,

it'd get covered. We all get the critical importance of the press, but they're too involved and a lot of this stuff gets buried so that the "thoughtful people" can have long, and now long-redundant, conversations about Trump's latest rant about them.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 06:08 PM

60. CHARGE FEES for protesting??

Pardon my screaming.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 08:16 PM

64. If he keeps

we will push back harder, that bullying tactic must end. I just wish he would have a medical emergency or something, junk food kick back.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 09:28 PM

66. K&R - posting so I can find this again. nt

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 11:40 PM

68. DT should be charged rent.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 12:18 AM

69. That's what dictators do. His enemies: media and The People exerting constitutional rights. Period.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 12:22 AM

71. as they wrap themselves in the Constitution they piss on it's principles

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 06:16 AM

75. They can try

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 06:28 AM

76. This would not end well for Trump and any co-conspirators. n/t

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 06:49 AM

77. trump is against all free speech , all protesting ,and all opposition

And will be doing like putin did by setting up kangaroo courts by appointing loyalist only judges to use to criminalize these groups and others with to protect himself from these people opposing him and his policies. He's constantly abusing his powers to use and weaponize them against all he dislikes because they expose his policies and him. Criminal actions against others coming soon from putin's puppet. that's why he is trying to control the DOJ , and make it the DOTJ instead for only his use, and his proposed crimes he'll make up against them to use , again just like putin has doe many other times in russian and other countries he's installed his candidates in , or like he did for trump. McConnell has been helping him get these judges into place for him at record speeds.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 10:00 AM

80. Only you...

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