Sun Oct 7, 2018, 08:41 PM
D_Master81 (1,598 posts)
Just so you know, here in Indiana...it's starting
Saw a post on Facebook from a guy that I was friends with in high school that I still keep in contact from time to time, he was attending a pro-life event here in a deep red part of Indiana where the group is now openly calling for a ban on abortion in Indiana and their meeting was basically saying that "with the supreme court now fully in conservative control its time to put pressure on state leaders to move to ban abortion in the state". The comments from people were saying they should b/c it would obviously be challenged but the supreme court would have a better than 50/50 shot at upholding the ban and overturning Roe. If its happening here, I guarentee you its happening all over the country in conservative states. Its only a matter of time and Susan Collins was an idiot to believe it wouldnt be.
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D_Master81 | Oct 2018 | OP |
Funtatlaguy | Oct 2018 | #1 | |
aeromanKC | Oct 2018 | #2 | |
dchill | Oct 2018 | #7 | |
Snake Plissken | Oct 2018 | #3 | |
Iris | Oct 2018 | #18 | |
Snake Plissken | Oct 2018 | #19 | |
manor321 | Oct 2018 | #4 | |
roamer65 | Oct 2018 | #5 | |
brooklynite | Oct 2018 | #17 | |
SweetieD | Oct 2018 | #21 | |
brooklynite | Oct 2018 | #22 | |
SweetieD | Oct 2018 | #23 | |
Tobin S. | Oct 2018 | #6 | |
CaliforniaPeggy | Oct 2018 | #8 | |
roamer65 | Oct 2018 | #9 | |
CaliforniaPeggy | Oct 2018 | #11 | |
roamer65 | Oct 2018 | #13 | |
CaliforniaPeggy | Oct 2018 | #15 | |
Gidney N Cloyd | Oct 2018 | #10 | |
roamer65 | Oct 2018 | #14 | |
Bob Loblaw | Oct 2018 | #29 | |
Gidney N Cloyd | Oct 2018 | #30 | |
leftstreet | Oct 2018 | #12 | |
D_Master81 | Oct 2018 | #16 | |
murielm99 | Oct 2018 | #24 | |
shanny | Oct 2018 | #20 | |
YessirAtsaFact | Oct 2018 | #26 | |
Omaha Steve | Oct 2018 | #25 | |
salin | Oct 2018 | #27 | |
magicarpet | Oct 2018 | #28 |
Response to D_Master81 (Original post)
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 08:45 PM
Funtatlaguy (8,721 posts)
1. I think Donnelly is pro choice. Hope he wins.
Response to D_Master81 (Original post)
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 08:46 PM
aeromanKC (2,107 posts)
2. No worries
No worries, Susan Collins says Roe is safe. Kav will not vote Roe out.
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Response to aeromanKC (Reply #2)
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 09:06 PM
dchill (26,885 posts)
7. "Peace in our time."
- Neville Chamberlain
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Response to D_Master81 (Original post)
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 08:47 PM
Snake Plissken (4,103 posts)
3. Christian lawmakers are practically bringing coat hangers to church with them to be blessed.
Christian lawmaker giddy about abortion being outlawed advises women to get their ‘coathangers ready’
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/10/christian-lawmaker-giddy-abortion-outlawed-advises-women-get-coathangers-ready/ |
Response to Snake Plissken (Reply #3)
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 09:52 PM
Iris (15,055 posts)
18. So it is about punishing women after all n/t
Response to Iris (Reply #18)
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 10:00 PM
Snake Plissken (4,103 posts)
19. Of course it was
Response to D_Master81 (Original post)
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 08:53 PM
manor321 (3,344 posts)
4. Of course
And this will bring Republican voters to the polls.
Unlike young people, they actually show up and vote. They've been trying to overturn Roe for decades. And now they are 2 feet from the summit. They won't stop now. |
Response to D_Master81 (Original post)
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 08:57 PM
roamer65 (25,407 posts)
5. Within 2 months, one of these states will ban it outright.
Quite a few states have trigger bans or old laws that will become active upon reversal.
Note to women: Abortion is fully legal in Canada with no restrictions, especially the Province of Ontario. It is the southern most province of Canada, easily accessed through Michigan and New York, at Windsor and Fort Erie ON, respectively. Toronto has quite a few abortion clinics. New York legalized abortion in 1970, so upon reversal will become a state that women can go to for the procedure. Michigan still has a 1931 law on the books, but we will get it wiped out or purge it through referendum. |
Response to roamer65 (Reply #5)
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 09:39 PM
brooklynite (68,552 posts)
17. On what basis do you believe ROE V WADE will be overturned in two months?
Response to brooklynite (Reply #17)
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 10:24 PM
SweetieD (1,597 posts)
21. These states can pass laws that violate any constitutional provision or sup court
decision now. Tomorrow. They don't have to wait until it is overturned. If a state passes a law banning abortion, then people will challenge it in court and the appeals will go up to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court will then use the case to say that states have the right to ban abortion and thereby overturning Roe v. Wade. |
Response to SweetieD (Reply #21)
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 10:28 PM
brooklynite (68,552 posts)
22. You're aware that no State Legislature is actually is session at this point?
I could be wrong, but I believe there's an election next month.
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Response to brooklynite (Reply #22)
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 10:36 PM
SweetieD (1,597 posts)
23. I meant next session. You were assuming that roe v wade has to be overturned before
States can make laws banning abortion and I'm saying it is the opposite.
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Response to D_Master81 (Original post)
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 09:01 PM
Tobin S. (10,418 posts)
6. I'm from Richmond, Indiana.
I was driving across town today and saw some anti-abortion protesters out. They seemed to be linked to a right wing church here in town. They are apparently emboldened by Kavanaugh's appointment. I've got news for them. They are sewing the seeds of their defeat.
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Response to Tobin S. (Reply #6)
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 09:12 PM
CaliforniaPeggy (136,152 posts)
8. Ah, my dear Tobin, they don't care. They want to stop abortion, PERIOD.
Of course, it won't stop.
It'll just go underground and we know where that goes. ![]() |
Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #8)
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 09:17 PM
roamer65 (25,407 posts)
9. It was legal in WA before Roe v Wade.
I think CA will get a law on the books fully legalizing it before a reversal, Peggy. Probably OR and quite a few northeastern and midwest states as well.
I suspect it will be a priority for Governor Newsom. |
Response to roamer65 (Reply #9)
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 09:22 PM
CaliforniaPeggy (136,152 posts)
11. Oh, absolutely! He is very pro-choice.
The states I'm worried about are the red states where women are not treated as fully human, and who will have a very hard time getting to a state where it is legal.
It will be a giant step backward for those women in those red states. |
Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #11)
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 09:30 PM
roamer65 (25,407 posts)
13. We will get them to Ontario or New York out here.
Think of it like Dunkirk in 1940, Peggy.
I’ll help just so I can stick it to the fuckhead fundies. I think states like NY and CA will make the abortion drugs OTC so they can be mailed to women in the illegal states. |
Response to roamer65 (Reply #13)
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 09:34 PM
CaliforniaPeggy (136,152 posts)
15. I hope you will be able to do that, my dear roamer65...
It's a noble cause.
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Response to D_Master81 (Original post)
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 09:19 PM
Gidney N Cloyd (17,908 posts)
10. Half of Indiana will come to Illinois for procedures, like they do for almost everything else.
Except cigarettes.
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Response to Gidney N Cloyd (Reply #10)
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 09:34 PM
roamer65 (25,407 posts)
14. IL will be a legal state.
The power of the vote from Chicagoland will make it so.
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Response to Gidney N Cloyd (Reply #10)
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 04:55 PM
Bob Loblaw (1,900 posts)
29. And guns
nt
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Response to Bob Loblaw (Reply #29)
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 08:34 PM
Gidney N Cloyd (17,908 posts)
30. To deliver them, just to clarify.
Response to D_Master81 (Original post)
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 09:24 PM
leftstreet (32,573 posts)
12. 95% of Indiana counties have no abortion clinics n/t
Response to leftstreet (Reply #12)
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 09:38 PM
D_Master81 (1,598 posts)
16. I think a new 1 is opening in South Bend
I know there's been alot of controversy because a pro life group wants to open a place next door to the propsed site but has been blocked by Mayor Buttigieg due to the possible hostility between the 2 groups. I'm not sure though if any of this is finalized however.
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Response to D_Master81 (Reply #16)
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 02:32 PM
murielm99 (27,484 posts)
24. If that is where you live, you have a great mayor.
He will fight for us.
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Response to D_Master81 (Original post)
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 10:16 PM
shanny (6,709 posts)
20. I agree completely with your post
except the part about Susan Collins being "an idiot to believe it wouldn't be." She didn't believe that, she just doesn't fucking care and never did.
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Response to shanny (Reply #20)
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 03:03 PM
YessirAtsaFact (2,049 posts)
26. Collins' pro choice stance is just marketing
Like her “moderate” label
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Response to D_Master81 (Original post)
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 02:48 PM
Omaha Steve (78,641 posts)
25. It started in Nebraska too
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Response to D_Master81 (Original post)
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 03:14 PM
salin (48,837 posts)
27. Not surprising. Remember the law that Pence signed - exceptionally punitive.
So bad it got over turned. So of course they are going to try again. Our Statehouse is among the worst - Teaparty central now turned Trumpistan.
Btw, depending on how big a wave, we may just have a congressional upset in Southern Indiana. In part because carpet bag Trey is a terrible candidate. Very entitled. Very much not liked. |
Response to D_Master81 (Original post)
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 03:17 PM
magicarpet (9,865 posts)