Sat Oct 6, 2018, 02:04 PM

Are liberal or moderate Republicans a thing? Do they exist?

I used to think they did. In fact, I would like to think there is an argument to be made that some Never Trumpers can be brought into the Democratic Party, as their beliefs probably align more with us than with Trumpism. I want to believe that certain Libertarian types might also realize that the Democratic Party believes both in social justice and individual freedom apart of fiscal responsibility. I would like to believe there are millions of Americans that understand the grave circumstances that we are facing, and that the GOP is a neofascist organization that is killing America.

I mean, I believe there is our blue America, and a purple America still worth working with and fighting for. Red America is a fringe element we can't reach.

Am I just plain wrong and stupid for thinking this way? Do I need a break from politics? Am I on the right track?

I just know I am afraid.

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Are liberal or moderate Republicans a thing? Do they exist? (Original post)	IluvPitties	Oct 2018	OP
redumbliCONS are lemmings and will do whatever their leaders tell them to do.	democratisphere	Oct 2018	#1
Sure they do. You just don't hear much from them.	TreasonousBastard	Oct 2018	#2
Not really. I try to be fair so I would say look at their indivdual votes.	BeckyDem	Oct 2018	#3
I think they are all dead!	Meadowoak	Oct 2018	#4
lol +1	BeckyDem	Oct 2018	#11
Moderates when their electoral butts are on the line	DeminPennswoods	Oct 2018	#5
Yes, but they have a new name.	StatGirl	Oct 2018	#6
Not as politicians. Only as random citizens... occasionally.	NurseJackie	Oct 2018	#7
No, that's oxymoronic	davekriss	Oct 2018	#8
Here ya go. lol	BeckyDem	Oct 2018	#9
All the "normal" Repukes were primaried by the RWNJs	FakeNoose	Oct 2018	#10
As individuals? Surely some, if for no other reason than...	JHB	Oct 2018	#12
hunted to extinction, i fear	0rganism	Oct 2018	#13

Response to IluvPitties (Original post)

Sat Oct 6, 2018, 02:10 PM

democratisphere (17,235 posts)

1. redumbliCONS are lemmings and will do whatever their leaders tell them to do.

Regardless of where an individual redumbliCON sits on the moderate to alt-right scale, they will always fall in line in the end.

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Sat Oct 6, 2018, 02:12 PM

TreasonousBastard (42,076 posts)

2. Sure they do. You just don't hear much from them.

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Sat Oct 6, 2018, 02:13 PM

BeckyDem (7,582 posts)

3. Not really. I try to be fair so I would say look at their indivdual votes.

Its the only way to see if there is something human there, some principle there. Like with the Yemen war, there are some who are against it.

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Sat Oct 6, 2018, 02:14 PM

Meadowoak (4,258 posts)

4. I think they are all dead!

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Response to Meadowoak (Reply #4)

Sat Oct 6, 2018, 02:25 PM

BeckyDem (7,582 posts)

11. lol +1

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Response to IluvPitties (Original post)

Sat Oct 6, 2018, 02:14 PM

DeminPennswoods (14,820 posts)

5. Moderates when their electoral butts are on the line

ala Pat Toomey.

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Response to IluvPitties (Original post)

Sat Oct 6, 2018, 02:15 PM

StatGirl (517 posts)

6. Yes, but they have a new name.

"Business-friendly Democrats".

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Sat Oct 6, 2018, 02:17 PM

NurseJackie (42,862 posts)

7. Not as politicians. Only as random citizens... occasionally.

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Sat Oct 6, 2018, 02:18 PM

davekriss (4,307 posts)

8. No, that's oxymoronic

Republicans today are radical right warriors of our monied elites, protecting and advancing the interests of the latter. To them, nothing else matters.

There’s nothing “liberal” or “moderate” in any of them. Dante has a special place in hell for all of them.

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Sat Oct 6, 2018, 02:20 PM

BeckyDem (7,582 posts)

9. Here ya go. lol

The Only Republican Opposing Brett Kavanaugh

Representative Justin Amash is the sole member of Congress who's come out against the Supreme Court nominee, citing his record on privacy. Can he get Senator Rand Paul to join him?

July 2018

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/07/kavanaugh-supreme-court-rand-paul-justin-amash/565418/

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Response to IluvPitties (Original post)

Sat Oct 6, 2018, 02:22 PM

FakeNoose (28,355 posts)

10. All the "normal" Repukes were primaried by the RWNJs

We Dems kind of laughed when it happened between 2008 and 2016, but now look where we are.

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Sat Oct 6, 2018, 02:32 PM

JHB (36,268 posts)

12. As individuals? Surely some, if for no other reason than...

...statistics and inertia.

As a political faction of the Republicans? Nope, not anymore. In the 70s and 80s conservatives made a concerted effort to drive Rockefeller Republicans and others they considered quislings out of elected office and oust them from state and local party apparatus.

They wanted to make the Republican Party into a "conservative safe space", and were successful.

And ever since, they've pushed it farther and farther right, since they already established the practice of punishing anyone deemed insufficiently conservative.

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Sat Oct 6, 2018, 02:37 PM

0rganism (23,597 posts)

13. hunted to extinction, i fear

any who remain are in isolated pockets well-insulated from the right wing hoax machine. perhaps in Amissh country.

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