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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:00 AM

Star Member PCIntern (21,165 posts)

Imagine what's going thru Chief Justice Roberts' mind

about now...

The Court is going to become the subject of public protest, vilification, accusations of harboring a drunken criminal sex abuser who should be on the list of offenders.

Everywhere the right-leaning justices go, people will scream and shout and disrupt.

We are in a Civil War and the battles will be fought in public spaces like restaurants, hotels, ballparks, and the like.

He cannot be pleased about this.

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Reply Imagine what's going thru Chief Justice Roberts' mind (Original post)
 PCIntern Oct 2018 OP
LineReply and he might be getting an alcoholic on the bench.
 RDANGELO Oct 2018 #1
LineLineReply Yes
 PCIntern Oct 2018 #2
LineReply Kiss your legacy goodbye
 Freddie Oct 2018 #3
LineLineReply True
 DownriverDem Oct 2018 #38
LineLineLineReply Roberts just passed the ball to congress.
 at140 Oct 2018 #54
LineLineLineLineReply Plus as a political operative he knew repealing Obamacare was a major motivator for the Repug base
 Power 2 the People Oct 2018 #58
LineLineLineLineLineReply Spot On!!
 at140 Oct 2018 #59
LineLineLineLineNew Reply Hopefully he'll feel the same way toward Roe v Wade.
 calimary Oct 2018 #63
LineLineLineLineLineNew Reply Agreed, Roe will not be overturned by this SCOTUS
 at140 Oct 2018 #64
LineReply Does anyone think - and I really don't know, so I'm asking - that he will see this deterioration
 Squinch Oct 2018 #4
LineLineReply I thought at one time he cared about his legacy
 rurallib Oct 2018 #27
LineLineReply Could happen
 DownriverDem Oct 2018 #39
LineLineReply I think that's a possibility
 EffieBlack Oct 2018 #41
LineLineLineReply I hope you're right Effie
 Power 2 the People Oct 2018 #55
LineLineLineLineNew Reply I doubt that Roberts would ever be a Stevens or a Souter
 EffieBlack Oct 2018 #66
LineLineLineLineLineNew Reply Agreed.
 Power 2 the People Oct 2018 #69
LineLineReply I'm not holding out for a Robert epiphany.
 pazzyanne Oct 2018 #44
LineReply He is likely thrilled
 oberliner Oct 2018 #5
LineReply He's probably not going to be pleased...
 WePurrsevere Oct 2018 #6
LineLineReply The only thing Roberts
 True Blue American Oct 2018 #19
LineLineLineReply Not quite, unfortunately.
 shanny Oct 2018 #23
LineLineLineLineReply Guess what?
 DownriverDem Oct 2018 #43
LineLineLineNew Reply I expect that they will strike down the ACA at some later date. (eom)
 StevieM Oct 2018 #68
LineLineReply I hear you.
 Silver Gaia Oct 2018 #36
LineReply You guys kill me with your faith in republicans.
 Solomon Oct 2018 #7
LineLineReply Yes but he saved Obamacare
 PCIntern Oct 2018 #8
LineLineLineReply "for whatever reason he did that."
 BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #13
LineLineLineReply More likely
 Woodycall Oct 2018 #17
LineLineLineLineReply Good assessment & analogy ... and welcome to DU.
 mr_lebowski Oct 2018 #56
LineLineReply I agree
 BlueJac Oct 2018 #9
LineLineReply Totally Agree
 Woodycall Oct 2018 #10
LineLineLineReply You may be right...
 PCIntern Oct 2018 #11
LineLineLineLineReply I Understand
 Woodycall Oct 2018 #20
LineLineLineLineLineReply Me either
 PCIntern Oct 2018 #21
LineLineLineLineLineReply This message was self-deleted by its author
 WillowTree Oct 2018 #48
LineLineReply Heartily concur! His is a Bush* theft seat on the SCOTUS.
 Raster Oct 2018 #12
LineLineReply Yes
 get the red out Oct 2018 #30
LineLineLineReply i'm convinced they're automatons
 Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2018 #34
LineLineLineLineReply I am always hopeful!
 get the red out Oct 2018 #49
LineLineLineLineLineReply we share the shame of traitor mitch
 Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2018 #50
LineLineReply "You guys kill me with your faith in republicans."
 LenaBaby61 Oct 2018 #35
LineLineNew Reply Even if Roberts is a hardcore right winger, as Chief Justice, he wouldn't want Kavanaugh
 NeverTrumpDemocrat Oct 2018 #67
LineReply roberts is getting exactly what he has made rulings for
 mercuryblues Oct 2018 #14
LineLineReply I wasn't suggesting for an instant that sympathy is in store for him...
 PCIntern Oct 2018 #16
LineLineLineReply I fully agree with your premise
 BeyondGeography Oct 2018 #33
LineReply The one thing that can be proven about Kavano is he is LIAR who lied under OATH. nt
 FromTheAshes Oct 2018 #15
LineReply And once on the court Kavenaugh
 Lars39 Oct 2018 #18
LineReply Great point. Supreme Court is now the Supreme Joke
 bronxiteforever Oct 2018 #22
LineLineReply I'd push it back further than that:
 shanny Oct 2018 #25
LineLineLineReply Well you are right and to further your point
 bronxiteforever Oct 2018 #28
LineLineLineLineReply +1
 shanny Oct 2018 #29
LineReply Clarence Thomas will welcome Kav.
 keithbvadu2 Oct 2018 #24
LineLineReply He'll finally have someone to eat lunch with.
 Nevilledog Oct 2018 #57
LineReply The Court hasn't been supreme
 The Wizard Oct 2018 #26
LineReply Roberts worked for Kav's dad when the dad was a lobbyist
 bobbieinok Oct 2018 #31
LineReply I picture the four of them, twisting their hands in glee and anticipation like Mr. Burns.
 3Hotdogs Oct 2018 #32
LineReply Well, I'd be embarrassed too if my own name were on it.
 calimary Oct 2018 #37
LineLineReply I think this is a distinct possibility.
 EffieBlack Oct 2018 #42
LineReply We've been there for 18 years already. This changes nothing. nt
 MadDAsHell Oct 2018 #40
LineReply SCOTUS was already there for me. Worthless Reich Wing Court.
 kairos12 Oct 2018 #45
LineReply He's probably thinking about keeping his twenty something daughter away from SCOTUS events.
 DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2018 #46
LineReply Eff Roberts. He's
 zentrum Oct 2018 #47
LineReply He's thrilled
 budkin Oct 2018 #51
LineReply I believe that he's licking his lips over this right now because he doesn't believe in the blue wave
 eleny Oct 2018 #52
LineReply He's googling "Eiffel Tower"
 C_U_L8R Oct 2018 #53
LineReply He already has Justice Thomas, an incurious dolt who always votes "Repug".
 JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2018 #60
LineReply I'm sure that he is very pleased with Kavanaugh
 rusty fender Oct 2018 #61
LineReply However, he's now going to be the swing vote
 muriel_volestrangler Oct 2018 #62
LineNew Reply Like he fucking cares
 maxrandb Oct 2018 #65
LineNew Reply He almost certainly knows Brett Kavanaugh pretty well. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that they're
 Calista241 Oct 2018 #70
LineNew Reply I don't think Satan is regretting any of HIS past actions
 FiveGoodMen Oct 2018 #71
LineNew Reply I suspect Class President Gorsuch isn't thrilled to have an athlete-party boy from 2 classes above
 pnwmom Oct 2018 #72

Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:07 AM

RDANGELO (2,790 posts)

1. and he might be getting an alcoholic on the bench.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:11 AM

Star Member PCIntern (21,165 posts)

2. Yes

I did use the word “drunken”.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:13 AM

Star Member Freddie (7,078 posts)

3. Kiss your legacy goodbye

I know he wanted to maintain the “dignity of the court” but his party is totally responsible for the death of that dignity.

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Response to Freddie (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:32 AM

Star Member DownriverDem (4,735 posts)

38. True

Roberts did save the ACA though.

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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #38)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 12:47 PM

Star Member at140 (5,436 posts)

54. Roberts just passed the ball to congress.

He did not want to become known as the justice who demolished ACA and take all the incoming.

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Response to at140 (Reply #54)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 01:05 PM

Power 2 the People (2,437 posts)

58. Plus as a political operative he knew repealing Obamacare was a major motivator for the Repug base

to come out and vote in 2012. He knew that if the "repeal and replace" battle cry was removed, the Republicans and Mitt Romney would lose a valuable chip in voter turnout. After all, he already knew he crippled the ACA already by destroying the Medicaid expansion.

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Response to Power 2 the People (Reply #58)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 01:05 PM

Star Member at140 (5,436 posts)

59. Spot On!!

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Response to at140 (Reply #54)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 01:26 PM

Star Member calimary (61,655 posts)

63. Hopefully he'll feel the same way toward Roe v Wade.

He won't want to become the justice who demolished a woman's right to choose. AND take all the incoming. And remember, since he's chief justice, this court under his leadership is referred to and known as The Roberts Court. I'm not convinced he wants his name attached to something THAT divisive.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 01:35 PM

Star Member at140 (5,436 posts)

64. Agreed, Roe will not be overturned by this SCOTUS

Kava is being pushed to protect the orange menace more than anything else. The Mueller noose is getting tighter around the orange neck.

There were more pure pro-lifers available than Kava on tRumps list if the main goal was to overturn Roe Vs Wade.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:38 AM

Star Member Squinch (35,624 posts)

4. Does anyone think - and I really don't know, so I'm asking - that he will see this deterioration

of his legacy and bend over backward to be more liberal in his decisions to contradict the expectations of what is coming next?

I don't have an understanding of what kind of guy he is. Anyone think he might go this route? Or is he someone who will think the fascism we fear is a great thing?

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Response to Squinch (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:48 AM

Star Member rurallib (56,197 posts)

27. I thought at one time he cared about his legacy

The part of the ACA that he upheld I always thought was a vote to try to preserve his legacy.
Unfortunately since then it has been pretty much nothing.

Roberts is a Republican soldier - wasn't he the leader of the "Brooks Brothers" protests in Florida? - and my feeling is that he has settled comfortably back into that role.

I am not a deep in the woods Court watcher - just my impressions.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:36 AM

Star Member DownriverDem (4,735 posts)

39. Could happen

Sometimes as years go by justices seem to change. We shall see. When FDR tried to add justices to the SC, it didn't work out. Then when it looked like Social Security would go down, two repub SC justices changed their minds and voted to save it. We the people must fight like hell and vote in November.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:41 AM

Star Member EffieBlack (14,213 posts)

41. I think that's a possibility

He may try to figure out ways to align with the more liberal wing on some cases by cobbling together majorities that don’t include Kavanaugh or at least move closer to them to distance himself from him.

Read “The Brethren” ...

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 12:51 PM

Power 2 the People (2,437 posts)

55. I hope you're right Effie

Justice Stevens was put on the Supreme Court by Gerald Ford and ended up being a true hero for liberals. Maybe Roberts will do the same. I doubt it but there's always hope.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 01:47 PM

Star Member EffieBlack (14,213 posts)

66. I doubt that Roberts would ever be a Stevens or a Souter

But he definitely doesn't want to be a Kavanaugh and I suspect - hope - that he'll want to keep his distance if at all possible. And since he can't go to the right of him, the only safe place to go is further left. I'm not expecting him to go to the other end of the spectrum, but even a little bit of give would be better than where he is now.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 01:52 PM

Power 2 the People (2,437 posts)

69. Agreed.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:50 AM

Star Member pazzyanne (4,814 posts)

44. I'm not holding out for a Robert epiphany.

Remember this is the guy who gave corporations legal "personhood".

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:39 AM

oberliner (58,724 posts)

5. He is likely thrilled

 

The court will move even further to the right.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:42 AM

Star Member WePurrsevere (24,251 posts)

6. He's probably not going to be pleased...

I may just be wishful hoping but of all the Republican appointed and/or shoved down our throats justices I think he's the closest to center, plus there's that all important legacy thing. I wish I could remember which cases but he's surprised me a few times so who knows, we might see him become the swing vote to compensate.

Like I said, 'wishful hoping' but hope is still what keeps me going these days.

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Response to WePurrsevere (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:27 AM

True Blue American (13,136 posts)

19. The only thing Roberts

Voted for was to save the ACA. Every other time he has gone along.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:37 AM

shanny (6,709 posts)

23. Not quite, unfortunately.

 

It is true that he voted not to overturn the ACA--given the way it was framed, doing so would have been a blatantly partisan move. That didn't bother the other 4 conservative justices but Roberts is more concerned about appearances and legitimacy.

However, it was Roberts, alone, who inserted the poison pill of optional Medicaid expansion, which dramatically weakened the bill and limited its popularity in red states...making it less effective and more vulnerable to repeal.

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Response to shanny (Reply #23)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:42 AM

Star Member DownriverDem (4,735 posts)

43. Guess what?

We are screwed. Folks who didn't think the SC was important, will see very soon how wrong they were.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 01:50 PM

StevieM (10,070 posts)

68. I expect that they will strike down the ACA at some later date. (eom)

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Response to WePurrsevere (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:13 AM

Star Member Silver Gaia (3,833 posts)

36. I hear you.

Hope is my fuel these days, too.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:43 AM

Star Member Solomon (11,017 posts)

7. You guys kill me with your faith in republicans.

Why do people expect a republican to care or do the right thing? Roberts is an asshole. He worked for Renquist, a guy that spent his pre-court career trying to keep black people from voting. Roberts said we didn't need to renew the civil rights act because racism was a thing of the past. He's a racist asshole.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:46 AM

Star Member PCIntern (21,165 posts)

8. Yes but he saved Obamacare

for whatever reason he did that.

I'm not saying he's doing this for US, I stated that he's doing it for HIMSELF and the institution which he presides over, and thus his reputation.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:57 AM

Star Member BumRushDaShow (76,095 posts)

13. "for whatever reason he did that."

Commerce Clause and to give him cover to torpedo Section IV of the Voting Rights Act, where he wrote the majority opinion (PDF), which in turn automatically invalidated Section V of the VRA.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:06 AM

Woodycall (251 posts)

17. More likely

it benefited a company or companies that he had a financial interest in. These people are bad people. When we dare to hope otherwise, we are just projecting what a good person would do upon them. We think that deep inside that everyone has at least a shred of decency so that's what we project. Just like they think that everyone lies and is out to cheat and steal from them. It's almost a form of anthropomorphism.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 12:53 PM

Star Member mr_lebowski (19,584 posts)

56. Good assessment & analogy ... and welcome to DU.

"It's almost a form of anthropomorphism" ... yeah ... it really is.
This is the DU member formerly known as mr_lebowski.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:48 AM

Star Member BlueJac (6,376 posts)

9. I agree

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:51 AM

Woodycall (251 posts)

10. Totally Agree

I for one will never be led down that path of misplaced hope and trust again. Republicans have shown time and time again that they are practically a different species than us. It's like an Eloi hoping a Morlock will do the right thing. It aint gonna happen.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:54 AM

Star Member PCIntern (21,165 posts)

11. You may be right...

but my OP was not extolling the virtues of Roberts: it was simp[ly saying that this is what he might be thinking. I didn't say that he would rule to the Left because of this. Just that it was disruptive....

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:32 AM

Woodycall (251 posts)

20. I Understand

but what flames me anymore is this - right now I'm listening to some pundit on Mourning Joe say that the democrats just don't have a "feeling" for the middle class white people that are living from paycheck to paycheck and have economic anxiety about this and that. Bullshit! I worked with (construction), and know many of these people and they are (mostly) 1. ignorant (and yes, dumb) 2. belligerent 3. easily fooled (see #1) 4. low moral character in general 5. selfish (always worried and crying that someone is getting something that they're not getting and so forth). 6. racist The reason that Trump appeals to these people is not their effing "economic anxiety". They're just stupid, selfish, lying, racist assholes just like him. Sorry. Kind of drifted off Roberts but I have no mercy for and will give no quarter to these people anymore. None of them.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:34 AM

Star Member PCIntern (21,165 posts)

21. Me either

Sick of the whole lying bunch of hypocrites

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:54 AM

Star Member Raster (20,466 posts)

12. Heartily concur! His is a Bush* theft seat on the SCOTUS.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:53 AM

get the red out (13,424 posts)

30. Yes

But I admit, I do catch myself hoping some R has a shred of dignity and concern for the country, I know better, but for some reason I keep hoping for it. But it is highly unlikely.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:03 AM

Star Member Hermit-The-Prog (19,549 posts)

34. i'm convinced they're automatons

I gave up seeing any decency in any of them except for the speeches Flake has given on the Senate floor against TrumPutin. That's less than a shred of concern, IMO.

BTW, and OT, I just used your pseudonym in a reply to another thread without realizing someone was using the phrase, "get the red out". It seems like a good battle cry for the midterms.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 11:29 AM

get the red out (13,424 posts)

49. I am always hopeful!

I keep hoping we someday GET THE RED OUT of here in Kentucky! Or at least have a D representative from the 6th district. R's suck especially badly here.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 12:36 PM

Star Member Hermit-The-Prog (19,549 posts)

50. we share the shame of traitor mitch

KY here, too. Almost 80% red where I live.

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Response to Solomon (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:07 AM

Star Member LenaBaby61 (4,554 posts)

35. "You guys kill me with your faith in republicans."

THIS .....

And if Dems ever get the Senate back again, they'd BETTER put a liberal justice up there, and not let thuglicans scare them into NOT doing so.

Notice I said IF, because who knows what tRump will do if he loses the House this fall. He may choose to nullify the whole damn thing, and say China helped Dems win, so I'm leaving things as they are. It's not like he and his treasonous thuglicans won't lie, cheat, steal and turn into human ruskie nesting dolls to get their way.

Okay, let me calm down

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 01:47 PM

NeverTrumpDemocrat (48 posts)

67. Even if Roberts is a hardcore right winger, as Chief Justice, he wouldn't want Kavanaugh

 

when he could have an Amy Coney Barrett.

Lets assume that Roberts is thirsting to remake Constitutional law, withdraw the right to gay marriage, end Roe v. Wade, roll back civil rights, etc., her vote would be just as good as Kavanaugh's!

And a vote from Amy rather than Bart would make it so much easier for even a very political and partisan court to continue to appear judicious and respectable and retain the public's confidence.

There's no upside for Roberts in Kavanaugh.








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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:04 AM

Star Member mercuryblues (11,883 posts)

14. roberts is getting exactly what he has made rulings for

I have no sympathy for him or any of the other fuckers who ruled in favor of Citizens United and againt the Voters right act. I will save my sympathy for those who suffer because of his "leadership"

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:06 AM

Star Member PCIntern (21,165 posts)

16. I wasn't suggesting for an instant that sympathy is in store for him...

I simply said he cannot be pleased to have a lightning rod in his chambers. The less attention these guys get, the happier they are.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:01 AM

Star Member BeyondGeography (36,701 posts)

33. I fully agree with your premise

Roberts is a conscientious partisan, in that he wants the Court to stay above the fray even though he hasn’t been able to do much of anything tangible to put it there, not least through his own rulings. With Kavanaugh, this task becomes certifiably hopeless. Good Mother Jones article on that here:

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/10/john-roberts-has-tried-to-keep-the-supreme-court-above-the-partisan-fray-kavanaugh-could-undo-all-that/

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:05 AM

FromTheAshes (128 posts)

15. The one thing that can be proven about Kavano is he is LIAR who lied under OATH. nt

 

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:13 AM

Star Member Lars39 (24,129 posts)

18. And once on the court Kavenaugh

will try to browbeat the female justices, who I don’t see taking any of his shit.
Going to be a very tense court.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:36 AM

Star Member bronxiteforever (7,149 posts)

22. Great point. Supreme Court is now the Supreme Joke

Courts depend on legitimacy to command respect for their rulings. This is a savage blow to the Supreme Courts power and respect. A vocal, angry, entitled drunk political hack is the worst choice for a Justice.
Everything Trump touches he destroys yet it was the GOP that really destroyed the Court through the workings of the turtle.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:45 AM

shanny (6,709 posts)

25. I'd push it back further than that:

 

The Court destroyed itself through Bush v Gore. A blatantly partisan decision that resulted in the first stolen election, and two stolen seats that should have been Gore's to appoint (Roberts and Alito).

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:49 AM

Star Member bronxiteforever (7,149 posts)

28. Well you are right and to further your point

Citizens United is the progeny of the Bush 2 Court. You can make an argument that the Bush 2 Court destroyed the political system based on that case.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:52 AM

shanny (6,709 posts)

29. +1

 

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:41 AM

keithbvadu2 (19,743 posts)

24. Clarence Thomas will welcome Kav.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 12:57 PM

Star Member Nevilledog (21,743 posts)

57. He'll finally have someone to eat lunch with.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:47 AM

Star Member The Wizard (10,964 posts)

26. The Court hasn't been supreme

for a while. The Mediocre Court is a more accurate description. Any governing body with Clarence Thomas on it can only be mediocre at best.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:54 AM

bobbieinok (12,858 posts)

31. Roberts worked for Kav's dad when the dad was a lobbyist

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:55 AM

3Hotdogs (5,568 posts)

32. I picture the four of them, twisting their hands in glee and anticipation like Mr. Burns.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:29 AM

Star Member calimary (61,655 posts)

37. Well, I'd be embarrassed too if my own name were on it.

After all, this IS what is widely referred to as the Roberts Court.

My son who’s getting into watching politics theorized that it may move John Roberts to side more often with the liberals on the court, just to try to blunt all the shitty PR that’s begun to come the Court’s way.

Nice thought but I know better than to bet on it.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:42 AM

Star Member EffieBlack (14,213 posts)

42. I think this is a distinct possibility.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:36 AM

MadDAsHell (2,067 posts)

40. We've been there for 18 years already. This changes nothing. nt

 

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:52 AM

Star Member kairos12 (9,838 posts)

45. SCOTUS was already there for me. Worthless Reich Wing Court.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:54 AM

Star Member DemocratSinceBirth (96,378 posts)

46. He's probably thinking about keeping his twenty something daughter away from SCOTUS events.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 08:01 AM

Star Member zentrum (9,642 posts)

47. Eff Roberts. He's

...as responsible for this as any MAGA. Really. Trump is what Citizen's United has wrought. If you break Democracy, then anything can rush in---and it has.

You can bet he loves tax breaks for the rich, De Vos, the Mercers, the Kochs. The roots of this monstrous thing are very gnarly.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 12:37 PM

Star Member budkin (5,063 posts)

51. He's thrilled

Brett is a W guy, just like him.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 12:38 PM

Star Member eleny (45,891 posts)

52. I believe that he's licking his lips over this right now because he doesn't believe in the blue wave

Only if we take the House will he begin to worry. But today that ghoul is anticipating the right wing agenda sailing through American life.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 12:44 PM

Star Member C_U_L8R (39,975 posts)

53. He's googling "Eiffel Tower"

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 01:09 PM

Star Member JustABozoOnThisBus (20,734 posts)

60. He already has Justice Thomas, an incurious dolt who always votes "Repug".

Now he'll have another.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 01:15 PM

Star Member rusty fender (3,178 posts)

61. I'm sure that he is very pleased with Kavanaugh

as a fellow justice because they are likely kindred spirits.

And who are these people who will follow Roberts to restaurants to heckle him? Roberts will not suffer public humiliation, but Kavanaugh will; you are right about that.
This is the DU member formerly known as rusty fender.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 01:25 PM

Star Member muriel_volestrangler (95,341 posts)

62. However, he's now going to be the swing vote

and will be until one from one side gets replaced with one from the other. So he pretty much decides all the cases, possibly for a decade.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 01:38 PM

Star Member maxrandb (11,756 posts)

65. Like he fucking cares

He's a Federalist Society POS just like Rapey Brett.

We no longer have a Supreme Court, we have a Federalist Society Court. Raper, Roberts, Gorsuch, Alito...all fucking Federalist Society fuckwads

Oh, BTW, so is the FBI Director and Deputy Attorney General

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 02:09 PM

Calista241 (4,148 posts)

70. He almost certainly knows Brett Kavanaugh pretty well. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that they're

friends. Probably like most Republicans, he's going to think these accusations are without merit.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:17 PM

FiveGoodMen (20,018 posts)

71. I don't think Satan is regretting any of HIS past actions

And I don't think the GOP are any better than him.

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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:20 PM

Star Member pnwmom (104,010 posts)

72. I suspect Class President Gorsuch isn't thrilled to have an athlete-party boy from 2 classes above

at Georgetown Prep, someone who brought a lot of negative attention to their alma mater, join him on SCOTUS.

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