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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCNN Money says there aren't any skilled workers in Northeast Indiana
CJR's Ryan Chittum busts the myth and the associated talking points once again.
Then theres the head of the Indiana Chamber of Commerces workforce development programthese types of sources are almost always in these stories and theyre often the flacks behind themwho talks about all the druggies and welfare bums filling out applications:
That quote gets at a big hole in this story: Theres zero discussion of what kind of wages these supposedly unfillable jobs actually pay. Indiana unemployment benefits top out at $390 a week (pre-tax), and they only last six months. Thats the equivalent of a less-than-$10-an-hour job. In other words, if lots people are sitting home on the dole rather than taking jobs, as the Chamber of Commerce would have us believe, these manufacturing jobs probably arent paying that much more.
Full post: http://www.cjr.org/the_audit/cnnmoney_cant_find_the_workers.php?page=all
Note: x-posted to Indiana forum: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1050155
Romulox
(25,960 posts)The OP's complaint is like complaining about the technicalities in one's dealings with the devil.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)salvorhardin
(9,995 posts)We just haven't found out about it yet.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)uponit7771
(90,329 posts)...the face of the story as it's written
WCGreen
(45,558 posts)and I didn't see all that many factories.
To me it looked rural and dotted with small towns that were dyng and large fields of grain.
It's the same over in Northwester Ohio...
salvorhardin
(9,995 posts)Nowhere as many as there used to be, and they don't employ even remotely the same volume of people, but we still have a few.
WCGreen
(45,558 posts)I was the accountant for B-106 and did a little air time as Chris the Accountant...
It was fun while it lasted. Your right about that, I just never looked at Ft. Wayne as Northeaster Indiana so I guess you're right...
salvorhardin
(9,995 posts)Fort Wayne's the 2nd largest city in the state, plus our (discarded) railroad heritage made us a sort of crossroads for the country, so it only makes sense that we'd have a good bit of manufacturing. There used to be so much that was made here. Hell, for a short while, Fort Wayne even pioneered nuclear fusion -- Philo Farnsworth's fusor -- but then ITT abandoned the research and Farnsworth moved to Utah.
WCGreen
(45,558 posts)I just never really looked at it as some place like Cleveland, my home town, where they tucked little machine shops everywhere the zoning laws permitted...
salvorhardin
(9,995 posts)They do a lot more than just tractors, unfortunately they're in the process of leaving for Illinois and taking hundreds of high paying engineering jobs with them. http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20120803/BIZ/308039918/1031/BIZ
twins.fan
(310 posts)Thanks salvorhardin!!!
My comments:
This "skills shortage" farce was first used by Bill Gates and Microsoft in justifying their efforts of labor arbitrage of reducing labor costs by hiring cheap, entry level, submissive third world workers via the H1B visa, primarily from India and Red China, instead of US STEM workers desiring to work for a living wage.
Then the technique was picked up by the rest of the tech companies, like Google, Apple, Intel, Oracle, etc.
Now the manufacturing employers are using the same fraud.
Joining the fraud are politicians from both sides anxious to receive corporate campaign contributions.
salvorhardin
(9,995 posts)1) There's a lack of skilled workers/STEM graduates (it alternates depending on the industry flack speaking)
2) Our schools are failing/kids don't know nothing
3) There's a teacher shortage
Once one starts looking behind the scenes, it's easy to see how these three myths all reinforce each other and lead to outcomes favorable only to business.
OhioChick
(23,218 posts)salvorhardin
(9,995 posts)The myths spread by CNN Money and the Indiana Chamber of Commerce, or Ryan Chittum's myth busting?
OhioChick
(23,218 posts)????
twins.fan
(310 posts)Another comment:
This is total BULL! If the employer was leaving money on the table because of the lack of workers, they would be finding the most qualified candidates and providing training to make up the difference.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)salvorhardin
(9,995 posts)Yep, CNN Money has the best stenographers in the business. Nobody can paraphrase a right wing press release like they can.