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marmar

(77,056 posts)
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 10:12 AM Aug 2012

Summer Arctic sea ice is going extinct 50% faster than predicted


from Grist:




Summer Arctic sea ice is going extinct 50% faster than predicted
By Philip Bump


In 2010, the European Union launched a satellite called CryoSat-2, with data analysis to be done by scientists at University College London (UCL). It had one task: determine the extent and thickness of sea ice. Previous satellites either couldn’t gauge ice thickness or had trouble penetrating cloud cover. CryoSat-2 can do both.

“Before CryoSat, we could see summer ice coverage was dropping markedly in the Arctic,” said (UCL professor Chris) Rapley. “But we only had glimpses of what was happening to ice thickness. Obviously if it was dropping as well, the loss of summer ice was even more significant. We needed to know what was happening — and now CryoSat has given us the answer.”


It just got in under the wire.


[font size="1"]Ponds on the surface of Arctic ice. (Photo by NASA.)[/font]

Combining data from a predecessor to CryoSat (named, lamely, ICESat) with on-the-ground measurements, scientists calculated the amount of Arctic sea ice in winter 2004 at 17,000 cubic kilometers, and in summer, at 14,000. .....................(more)

The complete piece is at: http://grist.org/news/summer-arctic-sea-ice-is-going-extinct-50-percent-faster-than-predicted/



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Summer Arctic sea ice is going extinct 50% faster than predicted (Original Post) marmar Aug 2012 OP
And nobody is paying attention to this shit. longship Aug 2012 #1
I keep hoping they'll find a negative feedback loop. redqueen Aug 2012 #2
Once we reach certain tipping points the only built in negative feedback loop that I see Uncle Joe Aug 2012 #4
Moderate sized meteorite hit? redqueen Aug 2012 #5
I thought of that as well, those events could happen but I Uncle Joe Aug 2012 #7
Yeah, long shots. redqueen Aug 2012 #8
Your question reminds me of a song by Jackson Browne. Uncle Joe Aug 2012 #9
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2012 #3
There is a large detached area of ice in the East Siberian Sea that will melt by September FarCenter Aug 2012 #6

longship

(40,416 posts)
1. And nobody is paying attention to this shit.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:07 PM
Aug 2012

At least nobody in power. Too bad for everybody on the planet.

R&K

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
2. I keep hoping they'll find a negative feedback loop.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:14 PM
Aug 2012

All they ever seem to find is positive ones.

I don't want to think we're toast, but...

Uncle Joe

(58,298 posts)
4. Once we reach certain tipping points the only built in negative feedback loop that I see
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:25 PM
Aug 2012

is when society/humanity becomes so devastated by increasingly traumatic global warming climate change events and becomes mostly if not totally wiped out, the burning of fossilized carbon will cease.

I would like to be an optimist but I don't see any other negative feedback loop after we cross the Rubicon.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
5. Moderate sized meteorite hit?
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:36 PM
Aug 2012

Significant, sustained volcanic activity?

It would be nice if people with the money to blow through resources at will would stop doing so.

Uncle Joe

(58,298 posts)
7. I thought of that as well, those events could happen but I
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:48 PM
Aug 2012

view them as being more outside of the current equation.

Having said that the melting of all the glaciers may alter plate tectonics enough to increase volcanic activity.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
8. Yeah, long shots.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:53 PM
Aug 2012

What else have we got?

Obviously world leaders couldn't give a rip... and individuals intent on consuming as much as possible in their all-important (and tragically misguided) pursuit of happiness are too busy think of anything but themselves.

Uncle Joe

(58,298 posts)
9. Your question reminds me of a song by Jackson Browne.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 01:14 PM
Aug 2012


Now we got country and western on the bus
R and B, we got disco in eight tracks and cassettes in stereo
We've got rural scenes & magazines
We've got truckers on the CB
We've got Richard Pryor on the video
We got time to think of the ones we love
While the miles roll away
But the only time that seems too short
Is the time that we get to play
People you've got the power over what we do
You can sit there and wait
Or you can pull us through

http://www.lyricsfreak.com/j/jackson+browne/the+load+out_20068514.html



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