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Wed Oct 3, 2018, 01:09 PM

The people standing behind Trump at his rallies.

For the first time I realize who they are and it woke me up and scares me. They are the brown shirts, the concentration camp guards, the Gestapo, the good Germans, the anonymous callers who turn their neighbors in to the state police, the people who acquired the properties and personal effects of the interned Japanese, the people who took Native American lands for themselves, the hunters of African people to sell them as slaves, and the modern day ICE agents who are ripping families apart because ďitís their job. What else can they do?Ē

History is replete with these people and what they do. I donít need to list every example.

People like Trump are nothing without these enablers and sycophants.

We are insane to try to win these people over or to even think we could. And we are enablers if we donít fight them with everything we have.

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Reply The people standing behind Trump at his rallies. (Original post)
lunatica Oct 2018 OP
superpatriotman Oct 2018 #1
lunatica Oct 2018 #4
OhNo-Really Oct 2018 #37
forgotmylogin Oct 2018 #66
OhNo-Really Oct 2018 #67
Wellstone ruled Oct 2018 #2
The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #3
lunatica Oct 2018 #6
KPN Oct 2018 #88
Brother Buzz Oct 2018 #7
olegramps Oct 2018 #33
Brother Buzz Oct 2018 #45
Louis1895 Oct 2018 #8
Historic NY Oct 2018 #64
kentuck Oct 2018 #5
HipChick Oct 2018 #9
lunatica Oct 2018 #13
brooklynite Oct 2018 #10
lunatica Oct 2018 #12
Atticus Oct 2018 #17
Butterflylady Oct 2018 #70
lunatica Oct 2018 #11
brooklynite Oct 2018 #14
lunatica Oct 2018 #15
brooklynite Oct 2018 #22
lunatica Oct 2018 #24
brooklynite Oct 2018 #27
lunatica Oct 2018 #41
brooklynite Oct 2018 #43
LanternWaste Oct 2018 #54
olegramps Oct 2018 #34
whopis01 Oct 2018 #59
Martin Eden Oct 2018 #16
lunatica Oct 2018 #18
Woodycall Oct 2018 #44
lunatica Oct 2018 #56
Martin Eden Oct 2018 #75
HipChick Oct 2018 #19
Fred Sanders Oct 2018 #25
erronis Oct 2018 #51
japple Oct 2018 #62
True Blue American Oct 2018 #36
Martin Eden Oct 2018 #76
jambo101 Oct 2018 #20
lunatica Oct 2018 #23
MiniMe Oct 2018 #21
sandensea Oct 2018 #26
uponit7771 Oct 2018 #28
smirkymonkey Oct 2018 #29
True Blue American Oct 2018 #38
lunatica Oct 2018 #47
LiberalArkie Oct 2018 #30
George II Oct 2018 #31
annabanana Oct 2018 #81
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pdsimdars Oct 2018 #32
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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 01:10 PM

1. Dead eyes no souls

nt

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Response to superpatriotman (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 01:15 PM

4. They look just like us

and in many ways they act like us. Thatís my point.

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Response to superpatriotman (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 02:27 PM

37. All hoping for a job inflicting some form of misery/control on "them"

Authoritarian rule rewards "loyalists" not talent.

This explains people like DeVos heading Bureau of Ed.

Hoefully enough will suffer sufficiently like the farmers in soaked NC & SC to cross over so their kids don't starve and have to live under a bridge.

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Response to OhNo-Really (Reply #37)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 06:35 PM

66. I think they're getting paid on Craigslist.

It's $5 extra if they bring a sign.

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Response to forgotmylogin (Reply #66)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 07:04 PM

67. desparate people if so

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 01:14 PM

2. You are so right.

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 01:14 PM

3. Some of them are also people who answered ads in Craigslist for paid claqueurs.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #3)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 01:18 PM

6. And they would easily move onto more violent activies

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Response to lunatica (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 12:39 AM

88. +1.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #3)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 01:22 PM

7. Some of them look like people who are waiting for their promised a free buffet

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #7)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 02:19 PM

33. Or those gourge yourself slop lines of all you can stomach.

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Response to olegramps (Reply #33)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 02:49 PM

45. I thought that was what I was implying

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #3)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 01:23 PM

8. A new word for my vocabulary!

claque | klak |
noun
1 a group of sycophantic followers: the President was surrounded by a claque of scheming bureaucrats.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/claque

I wonder how many of the claquers make it to multiple regional speeches by Trump. There is frequently the black guy behind Trump who has his own Wikipedia page.

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Response to Louis1895 (Reply #8)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 06:24 PM

64. The black guy is one of Trumps traveling circus ......

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 01:17 PM

5. And they are paid to be enthusiastic ...

it's the visual they want .

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 01:24 PM

9. Hired help..the same smoke and mirrors he did when he came down the escalator..

Hired folks there to stand around and clap..

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Response to HipChick (Reply #9)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 01:31 PM

13. I think they're now his true believers.

Thereís a difference.

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 01:25 PM

10. Sigh.....

We're NOT trying to win them over.

We're trying to win over the Trump voters who PREVIOUSLY VOTED FOR OBAMA. People who aren't going to his rallies. Tarring every Trump voter is bad politics.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #10)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 01:30 PM

12. I tarred the people standing behind Trump in his rallies.

Are you going to defend them too?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #10)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 01:38 PM

17. Sigh----"tarring every Trump voter"? Who did that? nt

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #10)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 07:59 PM

70. Those voters, the ones who voted for Obama,

have already been awakened and wish they could take back their vote.

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 01:29 PM

11. They're more dangerous than Trump is

because they would and will do his bidding no matter how depraved it is.

He knows this. He is quite open about cementing their blind loyalty to him. All he has to do is whip their basest emotions up to a froth. He doesnít need to promise them much or even need to give them anything in the end.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #11)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 01:33 PM

14. "We are insane to try to win these people over'

As I said, we're not trying to. We're trying to win over the approachable 5-10% of Trump voters -- who aren't at the rallies.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #14)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 01:36 PM

15. If you read my OP

Youíll see Iím referring to the people standing behind him in his rallies. The people youíre referring to arenít even there.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #15)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 01:46 PM

22. And I'm referring to your suggestion that we are trying to win them over

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #22)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 01:50 PM

24. Obviously we disagree on reality.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #24)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 02:01 PM

27. Point to any evidence that we ARE trying to win them over...

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #27)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 02:41 PM

41. I don't need to when it's self evident

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Response to lunatica (Reply #41)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 02:46 PM

43. Then it should be easy...

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #27)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 03:14 PM

54. I too dismiss the obvious and request the inane to support anything other than my perspective.

And I'll rationalize it as anything other than what it is to preserve my ego as well.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #11)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 02:21 PM

34. I agree. Trump knows he is manipulating these jerks. They are just stupid pawns.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #11)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 03:41 PM

59. He loves the poorly educated. n/t

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 01:36 PM

16. Were they born Deplorable ...

... or is it learned behavior?

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Response to Martin Eden (Reply #16)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 01:38 PM

18. I have no idea what creates people like that

Itís hard enough to even recognize them.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #18)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 02:48 PM

44. The Authoritarians - Bob Altemeyer

https://www.theauthoritarians.org/

This is the researcher/author that John Dean based much of his book "Conservatives Without Conscience" on which in itself is a great explanation of this horrible phenomenon.

Here's an excerpt:

Susceptibility to Liars

One consequence of the followersí strong need for consensual validation, experiments have found, is that they will trust someone who says things they believe, even if there is a lot of evidence that the person does not really believe what he says. Theyíre just so glad to hear their views coming back to them, they ignore solid reasons why the person might be insincere or outright lying. Relatively UNauthoritarian people, on the other hand, are downright suspicious of someone who might have ulterior motives for reinforcing their beliefs.

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Response to Woodycall (Reply #44)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 03:16 PM

56. Thanks for the link

It explains a lot about the people who follow Trump!

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Response to Woodycall (Reply #44)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 09:16 PM

75. "just so glad to hear their views coming back to them"

... that does explain susceptibility to liars, but the question remains how those views were imbedded in the first place.

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Response to Martin Eden (Reply #16)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 01:39 PM

19. It's easy to pull folks into a cult..

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Response to Martin Eden (Reply #16)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 02:00 PM

25. My dad always said "stupid people face backwards, smart people face forwards, pick a direction"!

Cults are stupid people, united in their stupidness and facing backwards toward their Leader in a herd.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #25)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 03:08 PM

51. Like that. Perfect visual and analogy.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #25)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 05:40 PM

62. I think some people feel really lost and need someone to tell them what to do and how to act.

Maybe that's why they are such easy marks for TV preachers, cults, folks like Jim Jones and tRUMP.

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Response to Martin Eden (Reply #16)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 02:23 PM

36. Learned

A lot depends on your experiences in life and how you respond to them.

Some people spend their lives blaming others. Most take control and change.

I will welcome anyone who wants to vote for a Democrat. They changed their minds after experiencing a situation.

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Response to True Blue American (Reply #36)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 09:18 PM

76. Agreed

We all have different life experiences, and some are capable of change.

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 01:42 PM

20. Our best option

Is to vote trump and his trumpanzees out of existance come voting day.

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Response to jambo101 (Reply #20)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 01:47 PM

23. Exactly

It may also be our last chance now.

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 01:45 PM

21. Plaid shirt guy made that obvious

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 02:00 PM

26. A lot of them would indeed be if given the chance.

At the risk of overgeneralizing, I have noticed the same thing among most Republicans since the Lumpball era began in the '92 election:

They're nothing if not hateful.

It's more important to most right-wing voters that their elected officials inflict harm on those they hate, than to see anything worthwhile be done for the country - even things that benefit them directly.

They really are pathological, most of them.

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 02:05 PM

28. VERY VERY CLOSE !! The people Nazis got to gas others were true believers in the end cause the

... regular military were getting sick and it became one of the reasons the Nazis had to go to gas chambers.

Most humans didn't want to be around what the Nazis wanted to do en masse.

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 02:05 PM

29. I'm just curious, because I don't remember ever seeing it, but

has any other presidential candidate conducted speeches or rallies with their supporters (i.e. paid actors) standing behind them?

There might have been, but I just don't remember it. I just find it very strange that he isn't speaking to their faces. They only seem be there to reflect to the viewer their insane devotion to this cheeto-dusted assclown.

It's just really fucked up.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #29)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 02:28 PM

38. My understanding is

Trumpís Staff plan these to feed his ego. That is how pathetic he is.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #29)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 02:52 PM

47. It started with Bush

Remember when he stood on the ship with the banner ďMission AccomplishedĒ?

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 02:16 PM

30. Like this guy?

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 02:16 PM

31. It came out during the campaign that many of those who stand behind him at rallies.....

....(not the throngs behind the camera who are wildly cheering him) are paid to be there.

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Response to George II (Reply #31)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 10:00 PM

81. This

Scour the casting calls a week or so before a rally. . .

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Response to annabanana (Reply #81)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 10:07 PM

83. They advertised on local craigslist under something like the "performers" category. The pay was....

....$10 an hour, a minimum of something like 3 or 4 hours.

I believe the actual ad was posted somewhere here on DU.

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 02:16 PM

32. That's why I think it is crazy for Dems to even take what they might think into account.

 

Many Democratic candidates always seem to be worried about what that group will think or how they'll react by this or that vote or action. No! Ignore them and focus on your OWN base and what THEY want and hope for. The good people far outnumber the bad ones. Speak to and work for them.

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Response to pdsimdars (Reply #32)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 10:59 PM

87. You are absolutely right

Youíre not going to win over people who want to see you hurt just for being liberal or a Democrat.

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 02:23 PM

35. TrumpMarks

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 02:37 PM

39. You got read on Hartmann!

Nice one!

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Response to House of Roberts (Reply #39)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 02:53 PM

48. ?

I donít understand what you mean?

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Response to House of Roberts (Reply #39)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 06:13 PM

63. Thom Hartmann read your post on the radio this morning

Last edited Thu Oct 4, 2018, 12:41 AM - Edit history (1)




I heard it too

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Response to stopwastingmymoney (Reply #63)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 07:28 PM

69. Thanks for letting me know.

Wow!

That makes me feel good!

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Response to lunatica (Reply #69)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 09:43 PM

80. Good post got a read out on the waves!

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 02:39 PM

40. You are spot on!!!

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 02:43 PM

42. Absolutely. And then there are the "lovely people who just want everyone to think happy thoughts"

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 02:50 PM

46. Good Germans....

TOP DEFINITION
Good German
Somebody who turns a blind eye to criminal atrocities committed by the government. This includes: needless war, lying to the public, stripping civil rights away from the public, ignoring laws held to keep it in check and disrespecting the general populac.

________



Good German
A citizen of Nazi Germany who participated in or overlooked atrocities while denying personal moral responsibility by appeal to his submission to supposedly legitimate authority.
The American CIA agents who relied on the White House legal justification of torture were nothing more than Good Germans.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Good%20German

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 02:59 PM

49. You are so right.

That's exactly who they are.

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 03:04 PM

50. There was a "handler" behind him last night

Long brown hair, white sweater, texting.... same woman that removed plaid shirt guy.

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 03:09 PM

52. They are scarier than Trump.

Some live next door, down the street, at work and are relatives. This is what they choose.

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 03:10 PM

53. The money grubbers

who motivate and inflame them are a bigger problem. Nothing will change, unless we get the dirty money and corruption out of politics.

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 03:16 PM

55. In your analogy, the people behind Trump are the Nazi party members and their supporters.


The "Good Germans" are the ones who remain(ed) silent, who didn't, or won't, actively oppose him.

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 03:17 PM

57. I can't believe that these people have jobs...who has time to drop everything, run to one of ...

idiot's campaign ripoff rallies, and stand there for at least 3 hours (not counting the time before and after the event either). The rest of us in America are working. All these people want to do is mouth off at others (I guess that's all they can do, since more than likely they don't have jobs).

I always wondered why rump picks way out of the way places in America to hold his stupid rallies. Now we know. He can get them because under his so called economic plan, they should be working but obviously aren't.

Doesn't rump even work?

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 03:26 PM

58. True

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 04:09 PM

60. a combo of brownshirts and deadheads

tRump is their Jerry Garcia, following him from rally to rally

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 05:28 PM

61. I know I'm supposed to say, "I know there are good people from Mississippi."

I don't believe any/many are white. I traveled through it one time when we moved from Miami to southern California. I'll never go back for even so transitory a trip.

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 06:24 PM

65. such diversity....

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 07:10 PM

68. I think everyone wants to belong and be validated.

Trump does that for what I think are fringe lunatics (no disrespect meant, lunatica).

They are validated to be dangerous, boorish clowns. (Deifinitely not the ha ha kind). Tastelessness, crassness, vulgarity is funny to them.

Add fart joke here.

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 08:02 PM

71. 'Deplorable' is a compliment to these hateful, heartless slugs

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 08:32 PM

72. I wonder. Does it really matter what they think?

trump and the fascists will do what they want.

Do they really need those ignorant racist fuckers any more?

EXCEPT, of course, as the creators of violence?

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Response to pangaia (Reply #72)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 08:38 PM

73. If Trump would ever get dictatorial powers

Those people would be the ones who would do his work for him. They would be the ones who turned us in and who would take our property. They would be his jailers, his secret police. Thatís what I was trying to say. They arenít nice people although they can be considered good people. They would go after those of us who disagree with Trump as if we were enemies of the state.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #73)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 08:42 PM

74. You are right.

How do you see where the 'authorities' fit in? (God I HATE that word.)

Police, troopers, Nat guard, military

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Response to pangaia (Reply #74)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 09:19 PM

77. I imagine it would be the same as other dictators do

All you need to do is replace the top ranks of all these with your people and the rank and file would fall into place. A great example is how Trump put Kirsten Nielsen as head of Homeland Security. He acquired her through JOHN Kelley, his Chief of Staff. Kiersjen Nielsen follows his orders without question so when he directed her to separate the children from their parents at the border she did it without hesitation. She ordered ICE to implement the order and they did it without question. There doesnít seem to have been any hesitation or question about the legality of tearing families apart.

Itís not that hard to imagine Trump getting someone to replace Jeff Sessions who will follow his orders and replace the top ranks of law enforcement with people like the ones behind him in his rallies.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #77)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 09:36 PM

78. That is frightening.. and when you explain it, it seems so obvious.

It is the way of the authoritarian dictator.

I throw around that phrase like a smarty pants, but have refused to really see what the consequences will be.


As if-- " Oh we now have an authoritarian dictatorship. OK, well, I have things to do. I have to go to rehearsal now. Or, I think I'll book a flight to visit my (hopefully ) girlfriend in Kyoto (which, BTW, I am doing next month) Okay, now I think I'll check in on DU.. Ooppss.. what happened to DU.. hello... are you there?"

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 09:38 PM

79. These people worry me, but you know who really terrifies me?

The vast majority of people in all of these situations throughout history who stood by, watched, and did nothing because they were safe or didn't want to take even the smallest risk to help. The truly evil people are small in number, but the complacent and apathetic people are the reason why they get chance after chance to commit atrocities. Go out amongst your friends, co-workers, neighbors and strangers and you will find out just how many people out there are clueless or don't give a shit about what our government is doing. Be scared when you find out how many people among you will justify putting children in cages or deporting and oppressing legal or illegal immigrants and green card holders, or about the police shooting unarmed persons of color. I could go on.

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Response to liberalmuse (Reply #79)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 10:01 PM

82. What you say haunts me too

I know and worked with dozens of people who didnít know about things and didnít care. If I tried to tell them they just looked polite until they looked bored. Not a clue and couldnít care less!

They are the true enablers.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #82)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 09:53 AM

91. I have a co-worker from the UK.

He knows more about current events, civics and history than anyone Iíve ever met, including myself and some DUers. He told me he gets harassed a lot by Trump supporters and told to leave America if he has a problem with it. He debated on continuing with his citizenship after Trump was put in office, but heís going through with it. He was in a bar and a MAGA harassed him and told him to leave America. He told him no thanks, heís going to stay, stir some shit and fight Trump and his ilk. He told me the bar cheered, but we are near Seattle.

I wish there were more like him out there, more DUers out there, too, because this is what America needs. We need people to speak out loudly against what is happening, like that young lady warrior in yoga pants at the supermarket ( the video is here on DU).

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 10:22 PM

84. Thom Hartmann read your post

On today's show.

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Response to Liberalhammer (Reply #84)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 10:52 PM

86. A few people upthread told me

It explains why this thread got so many views and recs. Iím totally blown away that he read it! And, of course, very happy!

Thanks for telling me!

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 10:31 PM

85. i don't get it...

 

Acting against one's own best interests is just insane. How do these people not understand what it happening, or is that they do and they're just awful people? As a child, I was taught to look for the best in others, I just don't think that's possible anymore. Anyone who believes in that bag of orange shit is clearly insane. And now, there's a movie about how he was chosen by GOD!

The Trump Prophecy

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 02:43 AM

89. .

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Response to lunatica (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:50 AM

90. I call them

The Ignorati

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