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Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:37 AM

PANIC! - MSM: "Romney is in Big, Big, Trouble"

PANIC! - MSM: "Romney is in Big, Big, Trouble"

by Billionaires for Wealthcare

The Florida papers are destroying Ryan. So much so that a distraught and panicked Village believes "Romney is in big, big trouble" for selecting the man who wants to pull the plug on Grandma.

The very first available headlines from the all important swing state of Florida are devastating.





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Rolling out your vice presidential nominee is one of the most crucial aspects of every campaign, and from judging from the headlines, Romney has completely blown it.

On the evening news, a visibly shaken Chuck Todd reported the 2012 campaign has not touched on Medicare, but now, all of the sudden, it is front and center, and it will be a big part of voters' decisions in November.

Todd is the quintessential political reporter. He phones around Washington and interviews the establishment players, who are largely Republican, and then synthesizes their inside views and reports it as conventional wisdom.

The professionals and insiders view Ryan as box office poison.

Ryan's plan to make cuts to Medicare have been very unpopular when they’ve been tested with focus groups,
said Todd.
Adding the despair and dread felt among those paid to elect Republicans, Todd continued,

when you look at older voters, this issue is a big, big problem for Romney, that he’s going to have to figure out how to deal with
This is the perfect wedge issue. This desperate, panicked move by Romney to quell the Teabag base has now placed Boehner, Cantor, and the House in jeopardy.

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/12/1119510/-PANIC-MSM-Romney-is-in-Big-Big-Trouble




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Reply PANIC! - MSM: "Romney is in Big, Big, Trouble" (Original post)
ProSense Aug 2012 OP
RBInMaine Aug 2012 #1
flamingdem Aug 2012 #11
goclark Aug 2012 #24
progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #41
AllyCat Aug 2012 #43
klook Aug 2012 #49
nanabugg Aug 2012 #55
aquart Aug 2012 #70
Historic NY Aug 2012 #2
Tx4obama Aug 2012 #10
2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #31
JaneyVee Aug 2012 #3
NYC Liberal Aug 2012 #27
D23MIURG23 Aug 2012 #37
jmowreader Aug 2012 #69
RedStateLiberal Aug 2012 #4
BlueStreak Aug 2012 #36
grantcart Aug 2012 #5
grasswire Aug 2012 #6
ProSense Aug 2012 #9
uponit7771 Aug 2012 #20
AllyCat Aug 2012 #44
Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #7
Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #15
eggplant Aug 2012 #50
Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #51
dsteve01 Aug 2012 #17
otohara Aug 2012 #8
tblue37 Aug 2012 #42
Brother Buzz Aug 2012 #12
highplainsdem Aug 2012 #13
Blue Owl Aug 2012 #14
ProSense Aug 2012 #22
dsteve01 Aug 2012 #16
LibDemAlways Aug 2012 #18
A Simple Game Aug 2012 #59
LibDemAlways Aug 2012 #60
yurbud Aug 2012 #19
a2liberal Aug 2012 #21
Scuba Aug 2012 #23
mfcorey1 Aug 2012 #25
AllyCat Aug 2012 #45
Scuba Aug 2012 #46
AllyCat Aug 2012 #68
Post removed Aug 2012 #26
2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #32
onlyadream Aug 2012 #33
SammyWinstonJack Aug 2012 #34
get the red out Aug 2012 #35
2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #28
ProSense Aug 2012 #29
HereSince1628 Aug 2012 #30
hifiguy Aug 2012 #38
librechik Aug 2012 #39
nc4bo Aug 2012 #40
oldhippydude Aug 2012 #52
McCamy Taylor Aug 2012 #47
libodem Aug 2012 #48
DontTreadOnMe Aug 2012 #53
Initech Aug 2012 #54
the_chinuk Aug 2012 #56
WinkyDink Aug 2012 #62
Eddie Haskell Aug 2012 #57
morningfog Aug 2012 #63
ailsagirl Aug 2012 #58
WinkyDink Aug 2012 #61
roamer65 Aug 2012 #64
tclambert Aug 2012 #65
subterranean Aug 2012 #66
lonestarnot Aug 2012 #67

Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:41 AM

1. Team-Obama, DNC, DCCC, and DSCC ALL need to GET THE ATTACK ADS UP RIGHT NOW !

 

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Response to RBInMaine (Reply #1)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:58 AM

11. They need to frame them with the big guilt edged kind

then nail the robbing fools to the wall in FL

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Response to RBInMaine (Reply #1)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 08:26 AM

24. Have you seen the AAA+ Florida Ad from the Democrats?

The video is here at DU, it is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

&feature=player_embedded

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Response to goclark (Reply #24)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:34 PM

41. awesome ad. The Obama campaign is top notch!

They should also do an ad that addresses Ryan's claim that it doesn't affect people over 55... they need to find some seniors who feel that it's NOT okay to burden their children (who are in their 50s now,) with these cuts... and Seniors who are not willing to sell out their own kids and grandkids this way.

Because once someone has indicated that they are willing to cut medicare, or social security, all bets are off and there is no protections for anyone. Ryan PROPOSES that people over 55 are "safe" but that's a lie. Al Gore was right about the Social Security lockbox.. once they start opening it, and Medicare, to vouchers, it's over.

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Response to progressivebydesign (Reply #41)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 02:15 PM

43. You are right about not handing this to kids and grandkids.

Since many at the age of 56 or up will still be living in their 80s when their kids are close to retiring. Then what do these families do? This doesn't even mention the unethical burden then placed on everyone else when the current system is working just fine and is sustainable.

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Response to progressivebydesign (Reply #41)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 04:04 PM

49. Further proof he's a heartless bastard

Even most people without children and grandchildren don't want a future where elderly Americans are left to fend for themselves when it comes to medical costs.

Even just 10 years ago, who would have thought we'd have to fight to rescue Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid -- not to mention public education and the post office -- in 2012?

It's truly horrifying just how shitty they want life to be for millions of people.

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Response to goclark (Reply #24)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 06:27 PM

55. I loive the part that lumps all the GOP together with R/R.

 

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Response to goclark (Reply #24)

Tue Aug 14, 2012, 02:39 AM

70. Lovely!

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:42 AM

2. No wonder they canceled out on Orlando for today...chicken shits.

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Response to Historic NY (Reply #2)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:56 AM

10. But Romney will be campaigning in Miami tomorrow, Monday.




... after an event in Wisconsin tonight, Romney will campaign Monday in Florida, while
Ryan will travel to Iowa, Bechdel said.

Romney will travel from St. Augustine to Miami, forgoing Orlando. Ryan will campaign in
Iowa, Bechdel said.

Here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014192036






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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #10)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 09:07 AM

31. we should expect some good gaffes

 

from Rmoney in Florida. The people are pissed and Rmoney can't go off script without fucking it up.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:47 AM

3. The sickest thing is that we're actually deciding between reducing the deficit and peoples lives.

 

Instead of collecting higher taxes.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #3)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 08:59 AM

27. No, the sickest thing is that a good percentage of

the country will choose reducing the deficit over people's lives.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #3)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:20 PM

37. It gets worse when you realize that "the deficit" is just code for "give billionaires tax cuts".

Ryan's budget plan doesn't reduce the deficit, it expands it by trillions of dollars. Even destroying Medicare won't pay for his absurdly large tax cuts; he thinks he is going to make up the difference by "closing loopholes" that he hasn't found yet.

These people are only "deficit hawks" because that does better in focus groups than "kleptomania hawks".

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Response to D23MIURG23 (Reply #37)

Tue Aug 14, 2012, 02:34 AM

69. He knows exactly which deductions and credits he plans to eliminate

And those deductions/credits are a big problem, because you know the Earned Income Credit, the Child Tax Credit and the home mortgage deduction are at the very top of his list.

But you are absolutely right: Ryan has no intent of reducing the deficit. Rather, it's better for him that the deficit expand as that will give him the impetus to get rid of those credits and deductions.

Cutting taxes when the country is already in debt trouble is just like asking your boss for a pay cut when you're already having trouble paying your mortgage--it is something You Would Not Do. Ever.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:48 AM

4. There's no way they win Florida

without stealing it.

What exactly is Romney saying is his justification for picking Ryan? If it's not his budget - which they're both trying to distance Romney from - what is it exactly?

He's an ideas man? Romney acts like he doesn't want to embrace his ideas.

He said Ryan has shown he can work with both parties to find common ground. When? Ryan's budget was very partisan. I know of no such record from Ryan. He's just as partisan -if not worse- than all the other House Repubs.

Romney also said he respects his character and judgment. Pathetic reason. I mean, come on...

I know why Romney picked him as VP - I just don't see a good explanation from Romney to the voters as to why Ryan is the best choice. There really is none other than Mitt thinks this will get him a win. More empty suit politics.

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Response to RedStateLiberal (Reply #4)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 09:50 AM

36. Romney didn't pick Ryan

 

Notice Romney hasn't put any of his own money into this campaign. It is the Kochs, Adelson, and Rove that are running things. Those guys never liked Romney anyway. With this pick, Romney has become almost entirely irrelevant.

And if there is one thing that we'd rather discuss than Romney's history of vulture capitalism and tax cheating, it is Ryan's plan to kill Medicare and Social Security.

So Romney can take the next 90 days off. This is all about Ryan now.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:48 AM

5. Nope, nope, its a brilliant choice, brave, inspired and oh shit lolololololololol

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:49 AM

6. all those stories are the same -- same reporter

The newspapers apparently are all carrying the same story from the Herald.

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Response to grasswire (Reply #6)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:55 AM

9. Doesn't matter.

"all those stories are the same -- same reporter"

It's likely a syndicated piece. The fact that each of these papers made it front page news is significant.

Also, the Tampa Tribune piece is by a different author.

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Response to ProSense (Reply #9)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 02:33 AM

20. +1!

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Response to ProSense (Reply #9)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 02:19 PM

44. Yup. That's the way the news works and why I get so pissed at AP when they peddle

some nuts story. That said, the editors of the papers are the ones who decide where it goes. Our local conservative fishwrap in Madison has had this at the top for 3 days (even before Ryan was the pick). Olympics relegated to the bottom of page one.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:51 AM

7. I almost feel sorry for Boehner

The teahadists have been a thorn in his side since Jan 2011. He couldn't even corral these freaks for a mundane debt ceiling vote and congress is at what - 13% approval?

Would not want to be in his shoes right now.

Cantor on the other hand - front and center as the ring leader of this mess. Go Wayne Powell!!

Loved this from the BoomanTribune summary of the Ryan pick:

The Ryan Pick:

5. It saved the Obama administration the cost and difficulty of tying Paul Ryan and the House Republicans to Mitt Romney.

Full list: http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2012/8/12/12106/2055?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+boomantribune%2FSvpw+%28Booman+Tribune%29

Cantor and his teabaggers wanted to play this game the last 2 years - and now they OWN it as part of the national conversation.

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Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #7)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 01:47 AM

15. A big enough blowout could have serious downticket reprecussions.

Don't want to get too optimistic, but a man can dream.

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #15)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 05:40 PM

50. Dream away...

I've been saying that this thing is all about down-ticket races for a while now.

The Rs really had their shit together in the 90s when they focused on down-ticket races and filled up the statehouses, just in time for redistricting. We need to retake all of those seats so we can get things done.

My hope is that RomneyRyan will be so repugnant that the Rs will stay home. Team O needs to have a huge GOTV push and make it clear that winning a second term is not enough -- everyone has to show up and cast a vote for all of the down-ticket races.

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Response to eggplant (Reply #50)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 05:45 PM

51. What we saw in the 90s, too, was the end of the great reordering which saw the old southern RW

Complete the move from "Dixiecrat" to GOP.

Im not sure if there was any great political brains involved, more like shit settling down to the bottom of the tank.

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Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #7)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 01:55 AM

17. Somewhere

Boehner is crying himself to sleep.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:54 AM

8. maybe Willard Changed His Mind About This Whole POTUS

 

Thing! Especially after his sad performance inEurope and Israel. Ryan is a guaranteed loss.

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Response to otohara (Reply #8)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 01:57 PM

42. And it would also allow Rmoney to blame the loss on the extreme RW radicals

who "forced this choice on him."

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 01:03 AM

12. Romney, releases your tax returns and I guarentee this Ryan flap will disappear

for a day or three.

This asshole, Romney can't win for losing.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 01:22 AM

13. K&R

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 01:44 AM

14. What about Rick Scott?

How'd he get so "popular" down in Florida with his far-right bullshit? Maybe the sunshine state has come to its senses now...

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Response to Blue Owl (Reply #14)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 08:17 AM

22. Maybe Floridians

are having buyers remorse:

Poll: More Fla. Voters Prefer Crist Over Scott In Hypothetical Governor’s Race
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/poll-more-fla-voters-prefer-crist-over-scott

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 01:53 AM

16. Panic: Truth Outbreak

The guy is a scumbag people.
The next couple of months is just about getting rid of the dis-information.

This was going to happen sooner or later.

http://derekstevens01.blogspot.com/2012/08/paul-ryan-is-selfish-shortsighted.html

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 02:15 AM

18. No one wants to be saddled with elderly parents'

out of control medical bills and that's exactly what would happen if Ryan's plan was ever enacted. The thought that insurance companies would voluntarily take on the geriatric crowd at all is laughable. If forced to, the exorbitant premiums, deductibles, and co-pays would be unaffordable for millions. "May be" a liability? What a joke. This is an issue that affects seniors of all political stripes as well as their children and grandchildren. Romney has committed political suicide. It's a thing of beauty.

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Response to LibDemAlways (Reply #18)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 07:44 PM

59. You've got it, if the insurance companies wanted the older customers

medicare would never have come into existence. The only reason we now have medicare is because the insurance companies don't want them. But they do want the younger healthy customers which is why medicare is so expensive per person. No healthy customers to bring the average down. Single payer would solve that problem.

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Response to A Simple Game (Reply #59)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 08:07 PM

60. There's no profit to be made in insuring the oldsters. It will never happen. n/t

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 02:16 AM

19. good--now can Dems stop borrowing their noxious policy proposals?

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 03:22 AM

21. K&R (n/t)

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 08:20 AM

23. Mitt's not worried about Florida, knowing the elections there are rigged.

 

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Response to Scuba (Reply #23)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 08:55 AM

25. Nailed it! LOL

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Response to Scuba (Reply #23)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 02:22 PM

45. That's what worries me too Scuba. It happened for us here in Wisco (I believe)

and it's already been proven to work in other places, including FL. We have to get rid of the voting machines. I don't know where to start.

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Response to AllyCat (Reply #45)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 02:24 PM

46. You start with hand recounts.

 

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Response to Scuba (Reply #46)

Tue Aug 14, 2012, 01:43 AM

68. You mean like what Wisconsin Wave is doing?

I want to help my union and local progressive group with the election, but feel it is all for naught if we don't fix this election fraud stuff. I'd rather focus on that.

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Mon Aug 13, 2012, 09:11 AM

32. ...lol he;s gone already. That had to be a record.

 

see ya later

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Response to Post removed (Reply #26)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 09:12 AM

33. Enjoy your stay! Nt

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Response to Post removed (Reply #26)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 09:13 AM

34. ...

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Response to Post removed (Reply #26)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 09:14 AM

35. Is that an article from a news source?

Or did you copy past from Free Republic?

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 09:03 AM

28. what does this mean?

 

Adding the despair and dread felt among those paid to elect Republicans, Todd continued,

those paid to elect republicans? Is he talking about the campaign advisor's or the reporters as those paid to elect republicans?

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Response to 2pooped2pop (Reply #28)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 09:05 AM

29. Shill! n/t

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 09:05 AM

30. IMO the test of legs for this story will be in reader comments.

Running the same story 3x suggests editors/publishers who get submissions from the same syndicates thought that story would be headline grabbing interesting to their readers.

Bottom line, people, who think professionally about what people think will be interesting, think this is an interesting story.

I hope this thing has legs like an army of millipedes.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:22 PM

38. The Zombie-Eyed Granny Starver

 

is one more torpedo into the sinking Mittanic.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:23 PM

39. we need this big time in Ohio and Wisconsin--call your local papers!

Ohio is even more important for Obama to carry than Florida. Let's not repeat 2004.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:29 PM

40. I guess this is why Romney has been constantly stating that it won't effect present group of seniors

and will only effect the younger crowd.

They refer to SS/Medicare as 3rd rail politics for a reason. Don't even talk about that ish until after you're in office but what does the dimwit do? Takes the ultimate granny killer as his VP.

Sic 'em granny because you know, Romney is a liar and Ryan is his squire.

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Response to nc4bo (Reply #40)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 06:02 PM

52. reminds me of Wisconsin...

when walker tried to exempt the police and firman from his union busting... and they were instermental in carrying the oposition forward... please use that reasoning, its proven...

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 03:03 PM

47. Romney is counting on Voter ID laws to keep the elderly from the polls.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 03:29 PM

48. He was also involved in that big push to

Privatize Social Security. Why do men who hate democracy and government make the choice to have permanent careers, ruining it for everyone else? He's never had a 'real' job. Fucker.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 06:23 PM

53. Ryan CAN BE the stake through the heart of Romney

 

Every Dem organization needs to define Paul Ryan ASAP. This WEEK could decide the Election.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 06:23 PM

54. Quick!!!!! To the propaganda mobile!!

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 06:32 PM

56. The mind boggles …

… thinking of the astounding electoral fraud the GOP will have to pull off to win Florida now.

But they did elect Rick Scott …

Well I guess it's still an open game then.

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Response to the_chinuk (Reply #56)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 08:12 PM

62. Don't forget Jeb.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 07:15 PM

57. You're dreaming!

Romney's campaign is re-energized. Obama's smells like old fish. Obama must do something big now!

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Response to Eddie Haskell (Reply #57)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 08:14 PM

63. Sarcasm?

 

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 07:21 PM

58. I'm confused

Mark Halperin & Howard Fineman both gave positive assessments of PR today on Hardball

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 08:11 PM

61. So ^*^$% what? He still will have his $100 million in December.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 08:55 PM

64. We now know who will be president until January 2017.

Barack Obama.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 08:59 PM

65. Oh, goody! Romney loses Florida with this VP pick. That's 29 more electoral votes!

That means any other toss-up state seals the election for Obama. Can't wait for Nate Silver to review this scenario.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 10:53 PM

66. I think they're counting on voter suppression to steal Florida.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 11:02 PM

67. Tee hee.

 

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