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Polls can be misleading. It all comes down to who votes and who counts. And we must be aware of October surprises by the GOP. I won't rest or believe until we have spilled GOP blood all over the landscape in floods politically at the polls. The media is just too much hyping them. Plus if the polls get more favorable the media will just blast the Democrats to make it a too close to call election when they should be burying the GOP at every turn.
We have to run like bats out of hell like we are behind. We have to kill the Groper Old Party.
JI7
(89,244 posts)Beartracks
(12,806 posts)... don't expect a Blue Wave. *BE* the Blue Wave!
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dalton99a
(81,426 posts)Aristus
(66,308 posts)Anyone wants to stand in my way, he'd better be square with God first, and he'd better pack a lunch.
fierywoman
(7,679 posts)in their favor at the last minute during the ballot-counting.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)I have been saying this for months.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)just like he did in July with his bogus press conference. And Putin helped too.
Trump's campaign was ridiculous, and didn't impress most sing voters, but Comey, Putin, the State Department IG office and the GOP establishment put him over the top.
NotASurfer
(2,149 posts)Aim for landslide territory. We're already winning special elections despite partisan gerrymandering, kick it up a notch and win despite trolls, fake news, and hacking. If this was football it's like playing a road game knowing home refs will shade every close call - and some not so close- against you. GOTV and run up the score!
triron
(21,993 posts)mythology
(9,527 posts)Nor could we find any statistical differences correlated with accessibility technologies or with different voting technology vendors.
The tests uncovered nothing suspicious. That supports a conclusion that voting machines themselves were not hacked.
questionseverything
(9,646 posts)The highest error rate was in the City of Racines Ward 26, where election officials failed to count 6.1% of the votes, even during the recount. More than 1 in every 17 voters were disenfranchised in that ward. Detailed results are here, for each candidate and ward.
Wisconsin Elections Commission officials believe the voting machines failed to detect the votes because voters had marked ballots with types of ink that the machines could not detect. After other counties hand-counted the recount and discovered the high rates of missed votes, the WEC decertified the machines (prohibited their future use in Wisconsin) in late September.
County Clerk Wendy Christensen has not yet publicly explained why the county board of canvassers chose twice to certify the results as 'correct and true' without checking, despite the obviously suspicious number of missing votes.
"We needed the manual count to get the truth, said Village of Pleasant Prairie voter Liz Whitlock, who was among the recount observers who could see the voting machines missing votes.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Totally agree!
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)"Pollsters also found that Republicans enthusiasm has drawn nearly even with Democrats"
The enthusiasm gap was something that we have been counting on. We are far from being out of the woods with this election where we have to fight gerrymandering along with the Republicans.
stopbush
(24,393 posts)Its all about GOTV.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)It's widely known that D's outnumber R's, and of course it's all about GOTV. But complacency is all about taking comfort from positive indications. What I quoted above was the first time I have seen any poll indicate that the enthusiasm gap which, has consistently shown Democratic voters more likely to vote than Republicans, has started to close. We can use this reporting as ammunition for our own GOTV efforts
WhiteTara
(29,699 posts)Bradshaw3
(7,497 posts)I haven't seen it and you can make an argument that good numbers inspire more people. I think the complacency meme is overdone. People weren't complacent in 2016, they just weren't inspired. They are in 2018.
louis c
(8,652 posts)is no fucking good, either.
You not only need to vote, but you have to vote smart, especially in a General Election.
Texin
(2,594 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,263 posts)On election eve they will be calling almost every race a dead heat. This serves two purposes. It makes ratings higher on election night and it means they weren't really wrong regardless of the out come. It's like the weatherman saying there's a 50% chance of rain.
Vote as if we will lose if you don't.
LAS14
(13,780 posts)...consistent over the last year, it's that polls can be wildly off the mark. Fortunately it's usually been in favor of the left, but, hey. Can't count on it. Mustn't count on it.
muntrv
(14,505 posts)The only poll that counts is the one on election day.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,107 posts)We have to fix this intentionally neglected system.
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)Just show Michelle Obama telling folks to vote.
Gothmog
(145,047 posts)Gothmog
(145,047 posts)GOTV. Voters win election. Go vote
bearsfootball516
(6,376 posts)Mr. Donnelly, you have two more votes from Indiana citizens who were too young to vote for you the first time you ran for Senate in 2012.
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