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meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 11:38 PM Sep 2018

After the hearing with Anita Hill -- what was their conclusion to vote for Thomas?

Did the Senate ever say what their conclusion was of the hearings and why, after all of the information Anita Hill gave, that Clarence Thomas should still be voted through. Did they just say, "we don't believe her". Or did they even make a statement and just voted him through?

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RandySF

(58,786 posts)
1. It was a shit show
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 11:40 PM
Sep 2018

Orrin Hatch got so mad at Kennedy that he brought up the Chappaquidik incident on the Senate.

elleng

(130,865 posts)
2. 52 to 48 vote
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 11:44 PM
Sep 2018
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_Thomas_Supreme_Court_nomination#Senate_confirmation

After extensive debate, the Committee sent the nomination to the full Senate without a recommendation either way.

The final floor vote was not strictly along party lines: 41 Republicans and 11 Democrats (Dixon (D-IL), Exon (D-NE), DeConcini (D-AZ), Robb (D-VA), Hollings (D-SC), Fowler (D-GA), Nunn (D-GA), Breaux (D-LA), Johnston (D-LA), Boren (D-OK), and Shelby (D-AL) now (R-AL)) voted to confirm while 46 Democrats and 2 Republicans (Jeffords (R-VT) later (I-VT) and Packwood (R-OR)) voted to reject the nomination; John Glenn was particularly vituperative in his rejection. Ironically Packwood himself would later be engulfed by sexual harassment allegations which ended his Senate career.

BannonsLiver

(16,370 posts)
14. Interesting
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 12:45 AM
Sep 2018

Many red state Dems voted for Thomas. Nunn, Boren, DeConcini knowing their states were drifting right. And I’m sure bob packwood knew which way the political winds were blowing in Oregon when he voted no. You begin to see the emergence of the red state blue state landscape we know today in that vote.

question everything

(47,472 posts)
3. They did not care. They could have their own African American on the court
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 11:48 PM
Sep 2018

a young one who would last a long time.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
4. Joe Biden simply ended the hearings without allowing 2 corroborators to testify.
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 11:48 PM
Sep 2018

He ended the hearings because he'd promised the GOP he'd end them by that date, and he wanted to honor his promise. Honoring his promise to them took priority over justice for her.

Then he called for a vote, and Clarence got approved.

That's why some of us will never hop on the Biden train. Though we'll probably allow it to drag us, if it ends up leaving the station.

CincyDem

(6,354 posts)
8. IIRC, Thomas was a 80 vote confirm before the Hill story broke.
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 12:00 AM
Sep 2018


By the time it was over, he was a 52-48 Justice. So she cost him 38 votes but I'm sure that was all planned out to give vulnerable senators cover and still push him through.

And - as someone said below, this is why I'm still uncomfortable with Joe. Love him but this was an irreparable error in judgement.

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
10. So there was no statement at conclusion?
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 12:01 AM
Sep 2018

Biden just ended it and they said, "let's vote"? They never made a statement of "we don't find her accusations credible." or "we believe him more than her." Just went through the motions and voted?

JI7

(89,247 posts)
13. moderate/conservative leaning Senators. While Vermont had moderate/liberal leaning Republican
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 12:28 AM
Sep 2018

Senators.

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
15. I see
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 09:22 AM
Sep 2018

Just by Anita Hill or was there a deep state back then before there was a deep state paying her? Because I'm seeing a lot of idiots talking about Blasey Ford being a paid liar.

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