Mon Sep 17, 2018, 07:14 PM

Aside From The Sexual Assault, What About His Drinking Habits?

I realize that everybody drinks when they're young. But the things he was doing in High School sound more like things that someone would do in College. And even then, it sounds like drinking was more or less a hobby to him. He is coming across like a Drunk Frat Boy, not exactly someone who would one day go on to be a Supreme Court Justice.

Lots of people go crazy in college, but mature later in life, but it is the exception rather than the norm I would think. I don't see how someone can live that kind of lifestyle, and then become some wholesome family values dude down the road.

It's not a pretty picture, and I'm wondering why his high school and college extra curricular activities were never discussed, unless I missed that. Is it because it happened a long time ago, and everyone is fine with the idea that he is not that person anymore? Therefore they get a pass for being part of a group whose goal was to consume a certain # of kegs during the school year?

If there are any further women who come forward this week, then I think he'll withdraw without need for any hearings next week. If, and of course it's a big if, this was the only incident in his past that he has to worry about, he's probably determined to fight it out. But even then, there's the possibility he knows he's in trouble, and will fall on his sword so Drumpf can nominate someone else right away.

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11 replies	Author	Time	Post
Aside From The Sexual Assault, What About His Drinking Habits? (Original post)	LandOfHopeAndDreams	Sep 2018	OP
Actually, everyone does not drink when they are young.	milestogo	Sep 2018	#1
My mother always said "you are known by the company you keep"	blueinredohio	Sep 2018	#6
and his gambling	gopiscrap	Sep 2018	#2
That's a question that should be asked.	The Velveteen Ocelot	Sep 2018	#3
He belonged to the "Beach Week Ralph Club."	Orangeutan	Sep 2018	#4
Not just college. Well into law school per his own speech	MaryMagdaline	Sep 2018	#5
I and my cohort drank a lot of beer in HS and college	mcar	Sep 2018	#7
Blackout drinking is alcoholism. Especially if it is often.	Eliot Rosewater	Sep 2018	#8
Agree	mcar	Sep 2018	#9
I've got two guidelines...	Salviati	Sep 2018	#10
2014 speech to the Federalist Society on binge drinking at Yale Law Sch.	appalachiablue	Sep 2018	#11

Response to LandOfHopeAndDreams (Original post)

Mon Sep 17, 2018, 07:18 PM

milestogo (12,207 posts)

1. Actually, everyone does not drink when they are young.

I didn't, neither did my groups of friends. Most of us were very good students. Very good students don't spend their spare time getting stinking drunk and raping people. Kind of amazing that someone being considered for the SC would have this in his background.

And some of us didn't get stinking drunk in college either. People with high ambitions are often pretty smart about their extracurricular behavior too.

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Response to milestogo (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 17, 2018, 07:32 PM

blueinredohio (6,162 posts)

6. My mother always said "you are known by the company you keep"

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Response to LandOfHopeAndDreams (Original post)

Mon Sep 17, 2018, 07:22 PM

gopiscrap (22,330 posts)

2. and his gambling

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Response to LandOfHopeAndDreams (Original post)

Mon Sep 17, 2018, 07:23 PM

The Velveteen Ocelot (99,849 posts)

3. That's a question that should be asked.

He was evidently a party animal in high school and college; did he settle down later? Many people do. I partied hard in college but after I graduated and had to get a job all that ground to a halt in a hurry; once the party opportunities dried up I seldom drank at all, which is still the case. For me the partying was essentially a social thing and drinking was just a secondary part of it. If a person is inclined toward alcoholism, however, the college partying is an excuse for drinking and the drinking will continue even if the parties are over. It is quite possible for an alcoholic to have a family and manage a successful career, at least for awhile. If Kavanaugh has a drinking problem I should think that would have turned up as part of the vetting process, but who knows? Maybe we'll find out.

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Response to LandOfHopeAndDreams (Original post)

Mon Sep 17, 2018, 07:24 PM

Orangeutan (204 posts)

4. He belonged to the "Beach Week Ralph Club."

I would like to see a senator ask him, "Mr. Kavanaugh, what, in teenage slang, does 'ralph' refer to?"

"Uh, Mr. Senator, to the best of my recollection, 'to ralph' means, sir, 'to puke your guts out.'"

"Thank you, sir."

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Response to LandOfHopeAndDreams (Original post)

Mon Sep 17, 2018, 07:27 PM

MaryMagdaline (6,355 posts)

5. Not just college. Well into law school per his own speech

By age 22 to 25 even frat boys in law school had calmed down

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Response to LandOfHopeAndDreams (Original post)

Mon Sep 17, 2018, 07:32 PM

mcar (38,697 posts)

7. I and my cohort drank a lot of beer in HS and college

I never got blackout drunk, ever. I recall one party where a guy rather forcibly kissed me. I participated, quickly realized I wasn't interested and pulled away. That was that. He was a good guy, then and now.

I don't think blackout drinking is normal.

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Response to mcar (Reply #7)

Mon Sep 17, 2018, 07:35 PM

Eliot Rosewater (28,287 posts)

8. Blackout drinking is alcoholism. Especially if it is often.

Some of the best people alive are alcoholics and drug addicts, so as long as he is in recovery and does not drink AT ALL, then I wont hold this against him.

There is plenty of other reasons he should not be a judge, at any level, anywhere human beings are involved.

If he drinks AT ALL now then whoa, talk about a fucking problem.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #8)

Mon Sep 17, 2018, 07:41 PM

mcar (38,697 posts)