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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 05:27 AM Sep 2018

Trump's insults against his 'hillbilly' base are making them turn on him: NYT column

New polls show that Donald Trump’s base is beginning to turn against him — and it may be related to his continual insults on their intelligence.

“A raft of new polls show that some of the most hard-core Trumpsters are starting to get a clue,” nonfiction author Timothy Eagen wrote in a New York Times op-ed published Friday, adding that the revelation is akin to “discovering that climate change is not a hoax when your town is under water, and all your commander in chief can do is throw you a roll of paper towels.”

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The proof, Eagen noted, is in the polls.

He noted that according to a Quinnipiac poll released this week, a plurality of “non-college-educated whites” wish Congress would rein Trump in. He’s also “down 14 points among the ‘poorly educated’” per a CNN poll, the writer noted.


[link:https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/trumps-insults-hillbilly-base-making-turn-nyt-column/|

Is the worm finally turning?
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Trump's insults against his 'hillbilly' base are making them turn on him: NYT column (Original Post) Soph0571 Sep 2018 OP
how to save a country bora13 Sep 2018 #1
After prison, Trump's worst nightmare would be to spend the rest of his life BeyondGeography Sep 2018 #2
Not Buying It modrepub Sep 2018 #3
Yep, bitter, hateful pricks who enjoy seeing other suffer Va Lefty Sep 2018 #4
Yep, their lives suck. Blue_true Sep 2018 #37
I would consider the "poorly educated" to include those onetexan Sep 2018 #5
The most poorly educated republican voters have degrees from... Achilleaze Sep 2018 #10
Wrong. IluvPitties Sep 2018 #15
The exception that proves the rule hueymahl Sep 2018 #20
They are cucks Cosmocat Sep 2018 #6
Like this, "A face in the crowd": Lonsesome Rhodes louis c Sep 2018 #7
Wow, I had never seen that before hueymahl Sep 2018 #21
That looks like something from the Twilight Zone. nt zanana1 Sep 2018 #24
Name of that movie was Lonesome Dove....I think Gibbyman01 Sep 2018 #29
Actually, the name of that movie is A Face in the Crowd. Grammy23 Sep 2018 #31
The movie was A Face In the Crowd. Dave Starsky Sep 2018 #32
The name of his character was Lonesome Rhodes Rhiannon12866 Sep 2018 #43
Trump is Loathsome Toad. peekaloo Sep 2018 #28
Thanks. I had never heard of this movie. TomSlick Sep 2018 #39
Director Elia Kazan - Would have, could have, should have been Brother Buzz Sep 2018 #40
When he* called southerners "dumb," he was pissing in his own grits Achilleaze Sep 2018 #8
14 points from the hard-core stupid is really amazing. I guess all the guilty pleas are lindysalsagal Sep 2018 #9
This is Raw Story stealing content from the New York Times and adding a click-bait headline oberliner Sep 2018 #11
Raw Story does suck, don't they? PJMcK Sep 2018 #27
Once again trump is showing everyone duforsure Sep 2018 #12
What happens when he finally insults Reagan? Bob Loblaw Sep 2018 #13
I'll help you out: Ilsa Sep 2018 #17
Thanks ejbr Sep 2018 #19
Here's looking at you kid Bob Loblaw Sep 2018 #22
I heard he called his New England fan base 'sadistic, sapsucking stump-jumpers'. Mc Mike Sep 2018 #14
That isn't really his base. Trump's base are wealthy educated suburban whites. yardwork Sep 2018 #16
I know what could bring them back ejbr Sep 2018 #18
If we want to win in 2020... zanana1 Sep 2018 #23
But aren't they the ones... llmart Sep 2018 #25
He's been insulting them since the beginning. Garrett78 Sep 2018 #26
Fuck Rawstory for this headline. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2018 #30
Unfortunately, his base is just going to find another greedy, racist, warmongering idiot to vote for Hoyt Sep 2018 #33
It's Timothy *Egan* Cal Carpenter Sep 2018 #34
The deplorables are waking up Gothmog Sep 2018 #35
His base has gotten royally screwed by his policies. Blue_true Sep 2018 #36
TRUE in West Virginia From the NYT Column: k8conant Sep 2018 #38
An Orange Face in the Crowd lame54 Sep 2018 #41
The poorly educated are his sustaining life's blood DFW Sep 2018 #42

bora13

(860 posts)
1. how to save a country
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 05:48 AM
Sep 2018

get the orange bastard to start talking shit about country folk.
I considered this some time back and to see it start coming to fruition
is poetry in motion.

BeyondGeography

(39,369 posts)
2. After prison, Trump's worst nightmare would be to spend the rest of his life
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 06:00 AM
Sep 2018

in just about any town that voted for him.

modrepub

(3,495 posts)
3. Not Buying It
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 06:05 AM
Sep 2018

As long as he makes "dem librals" mad they will still like him. I swear half of Trump's support is from people who enjoy watching others suffer as much as they have perceived themselves during their "miserable" lives.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
37. Yep, their lives suck.
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 10:47 AM
Sep 2018

The elites that they so despise have seen their home prices and wages increase well since the pits of 2008. The deplorables? Nada on both accounts, in fact, employment for them has remained flat, even dipping under Trump. Save the liberals in those places, screw all the rest of them.

onetexan

(13,036 posts)
5. I would consider the "poorly educated" to include those
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 06:35 AM
Sep 2018

With degrees from Oral Roberts U. & Liberty U.

IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
15. Wrong.
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 07:47 AM
Sep 2018

One of the most educated and progressive people I know in academia has a Master's from there. Dude is a progressive warrior.

Gibbyman01

(3 posts)
29. Name of that movie was Lonesome Dove....I think
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 09:34 AM
Sep 2018

The name of that movie was Lonesome Dove Andy Griffith played a magnificent performance. I remember thinking once how Donald Trump reminded me of that character

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
31. Actually, the name of that movie is A Face in the Crowd.
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 09:42 AM
Sep 2018

Andy Griffith did an amazing job playing the wildly out of control Lonesome Rhodes. It is hard not to think of tRump when you watch this movie. He is such a despicable character and it has a sad, but predictable ending where he gets exactly what is coming to him.

I think if Omarosa was able to secretly record meetings, etc that it is likely that she or someone else has caught tRump in some epic meltdowns. Who knows? Omarosa may be saving some of her best material for later? Will tRump have his Lonesome Rhodes moment? Stay tuned.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
32. The movie was A Face In the Crowd.
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 09:42 AM
Sep 2018

Andy Griffith played a character named Lonesome Rhodes.

It should be required viewing by everyone on DU. It predicted Donald Trump 60 years ago.

Lonesome Dove was a best-selling Western novel written by Larry McMurtry.

Rhiannon12866

(205,237 posts)
43. The name of his character was Lonesome Rhodes
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 02:35 AM
Sep 2018

I saw it for the first time recently and I agree, it was a terrific performance - and he was as disingenuous as Trump.

Welcome to DU!

Brother Buzz

(36,416 posts)
40. Director Elia Kazan - Would have, could have, should have been
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 04:26 PM
Sep 2018

He ran into a buzz saw when he was called into the House Committee on Un-American Activities in 1952; one could make the argument his testimony cast a pall on the rest of his career. Dark, dark chapter in American history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elia_Kazan#HUAC_testimony

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
8. When he* called southerners "dumb," he was pissing in his own grits
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 07:09 AM
Sep 2018
* Dirty Donny, republican Draft Dodger-in-Chief

lindysalsagal

(20,678 posts)
9. 14 points from the hard-core stupid is really amazing. I guess all the guilty pleas are
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 07:09 AM
Sep 2018

impossible to ignore. Could it be the one thing they believe in is court action? Maybe from personal experience????

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
12. Once again trump is showing everyone
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 07:37 AM
Sep 2018

That people who supports him, he really hates them too. He doesn't like anyone except himself, and those that believe his propaganda will learn that also. HE's not loyal to this country or the American people, only putin, and corruption to profit from. Supporters are running from him now. Many more will too .

Bob Loblaw

(1,900 posts)
13. What happens when he finally insults Reagan?
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 07:39 AM
Sep 2018

It'll be like the scene in the Star Trek series when Harry Mudd says, "Everything I say is a lie." (Sorry, I don't know how to post that scene using my phone.)

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
14. I heard he called his New England fan base 'sadistic, sapsucking stump-jumpers'.
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 07:44 AM
Sep 2018

Many are saying that.

yardwork

(61,596 posts)
16. That isn't really his base. Trump's base are wealthy educated suburban whites.
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 07:55 AM
Sep 2018

They want tax cuts and deregulation. They don't care about anything else.

ejbr

(5,856 posts)
18. I know what could bring them back
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 08:19 AM
Sep 2018

Trump just needs to stand on 5th Avenue and shoot some random person and they’ll be putty in his hands.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
25. But aren't they the ones...
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 09:03 AM
Sep 2018

who hate political correctness? So they should be okey-dokey with the term "hillbillies".

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
26. He's been insulting them since the beginning.
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 09:14 AM
Sep 2018

He stated publicly that he could murder someone and not lose a supporter.

Hard to believe he's dropped 14 points among any one group given his overall approval rating has been so steady. It implies he's gained ground among other groups.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
33. Unfortunately, his base is just going to find another greedy, racist, warmongering idiot to vote for
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 10:06 AM
Sep 2018

I don't think this indicates the base is changing their beliefs.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
36. His base has gotten royally screwed by his policies.
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 10:42 AM
Sep 2018

The only good (I use that word sarcastically in this case) things for them is his hatred of non white immigrants and his kissy face with KKK and Nazis. His base is getting hammered economically, falling farther behind the big urban/Surburban/coastal elites that they so envy. Bout time that they start getting a clue.

k8conant

(3,030 posts)
38. TRUE in West Virginia From the NYT Column:
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 11:23 AM
Sep 2018

"In West Virginia, where Trump could shoot the Mountaineer mascot and still walk at the head of a parade, attacks on Obamacare are killing Republican chances of taking down Senator Joe Manchin."

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/14/opinion/trump-base-polls.html

DFW

(54,358 posts)
42. The poorly educated are his sustaining life's blood
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 04:35 PM
Sep 2018

If he loses them, he has no one left but Fox Noise and National Hate radio. Since THEIR audience is the poorly educated, they won't stick around much longer, either, and then, all that's left is the money. When the money leaves, so will he.

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