Fri Sep 14, 2018, 07:01 AM
TheBlackAdder (11,722 posts)
FBI refuses to investigate secret letter allegations about Kavanaugh forwarded by Democratic Senator
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![]() For days rumors of the existence of a secret letter about Judge Brett Kavanaugh have been floating about Washington, D.C., and on Thursday Democratic U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein confirmed the letter’s existence by announcing she was forwarding it to the FBI for investigation.
While its contents are unknown, reports at The Intercept and Buzzfeed make clear it was penned by an unnamed woman, and her attorney represents #MeToo survivors. The attorney has refused to comment, and the unnamed woman’s privacy is being respected. But HuffPost is now reporting that the FBI has just refused to investigate what are assumed to be allegations, possibly of sexual impropriety, against Judge Kavanaugh, ahead of his Senate Supreme Court confirmation vote. Why? “Upon receipt of the information on the night of September 12, we included it as part of Judge Kavanaugh’s background file, as per the standard process,” an FBI spokesperson told HuffPost. Huffpost adds, “there’s no plan for further investigation as part of the background check process, which likely would have happened if the FBI had received the information earlier on.” Amanda Terkel, HuffPost Washington Bureau Chief, explains via Twitter, “Basically… the information came in too late,” leading some to question how it could be too late for a lifetime appointment. https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/fbi-refuses-investigate-secret-letter-allegations-kavanaugh-forwarded-democratic-senator/ .
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Author | Time | Post |
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TheBlackAdder | Sep 2018 | OP |
Ninga | Sep 2018 | #1 | |
TheBlackAdder | Sep 2018 | #2 | |
Anon-C | Sep 2018 | #11 | |
onecaliberal | Sep 2018 | #30 | |
getagrip_already | Sep 2018 | #37 | |
Tarc | Sep 2018 | #3 | |
brush | Sep 2018 | #4 | |
OnDoutside | Sep 2018 | #6 | |
TheBlackAdder | Sep 2018 | #7 | |
blueinredohio | Sep 2018 | #36 | |
OnDoutside | Sep 2018 | #5 | |
jalan48 | Sep 2018 | #8 | |
TheBlackAdder | Sep 2018 | #13 | |
mythology | Sep 2018 | #16 | |
jalan48 | Sep 2018 | #18 | |
Hortensis | Sep 2018 | #33 | |
jalan48 | Sep 2018 | #45 | |
Hortensis | Sep 2018 | #46 | |
brush | Sep 2018 | #10 | |
OnDoutside | Sep 2018 | #22 | |
mucifer | Sep 2018 | #9 | |
Shrek | Sep 2018 | #12 | |
FBaggins | Sep 2018 | #19 | |
TheBlackAdder | Sep 2018 | #20 | |
john657 | Sep 2018 | #27 | |
TheBlackAdder | Sep 2018 | #31 | |
john657 | Sep 2018 | #34 | |
Lee-Lee | Sep 2018 | #14 | |
TheBlackAdder | Sep 2018 | #21 | |
FBaggins | Sep 2018 | #25 | |
Lee-Lee | Sep 2018 | #29 | |
sarisataka | Sep 2018 | #15 | |
Baitball Blogger | Sep 2018 | #17 | |
Garrett78 | Sep 2018 | #23 | |
onecaliberal | Sep 2018 | #32 | |
FBaggins | Sep 2018 | #35 | |
Garrett78 | Sep 2018 | #39 | |
onecaliberal | Sep 2018 | #40 | |
Garrett78 | Sep 2018 | #43 | |
onecaliberal | Sep 2018 | #44 | |
SCVDem | Sep 2018 | #24 | |
OnDoutside | Sep 2018 | #26 | |
john657 | Sep 2018 | #28 | |
eissa | Sep 2018 | #42 | |
bucolic_frolic | Sep 2018 | #38 | |
Pepsidog | Sep 2018 | #41 | |
TomSlick | Sep 2018 | #47 |
Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 07:10 AM
Ninga (6,337 posts)
1. Yep.....it's just the way things roll.....that statement is so wrong .....speechless. Nt
Response to Ninga (Reply #1)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 07:15 AM
TheBlackAdder (11,722 posts)
2. I didn't know the FBI was bound by the same artificial calendar that Chuck Grassley & GOP made up!
Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #2)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 07:54 AM
Anon-C (1,579 posts)
11. Jeff Sessions' FBI is on the same calendar.
Response to Anon-C (Reply #11)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:15 AM
getagrip_already (2,405 posts)
37. he is a friend of jeff......
nuff said.
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Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 07:18 AM
Tarc (8,676 posts)
3. So then, release it all to the public
We'll decide Kavanaugh's judicial fate, if the FBI is too cowardly to step up.
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Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 07:18 AM
brush (22,285 posts)
4. So DiFi has to release it without divulging the ID of the woman.
She can't just let this go and this guy, this perjurer, gets on the court.
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Response to brush (Reply #4)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 07:19 AM
OnDoutside (10,206 posts)
6. Trump has the letter, so her anonymity isn't a question anymore...
Response to brush (Reply #4)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 07:20 AM
TheBlackAdder (11,722 posts)
7. Rachel says this info was given to the GOP and White House (I guess that includes Russia too).
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The reddit and 4chan trolls will be out in force today. . |
Response to brush (Reply #4)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:15 AM
blueinredohio (2,224 posts)
36. My thoughts exactly
Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 07:19 AM
OnDoutside (10,206 posts)
5. Feinstein has had this information since JULY, so how come it only comes to light now ????
Scumborough had a right go at Democrats this morning, over this, (which was laughable).
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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #5)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 07:29 AM
jalan48 (8,561 posts)
8. I thought she just received the info.
Response to jalan48 (Reply #8)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:03 AM
TheBlackAdder (11,722 posts)
13. On top of that, others convinced her to forward it to the FBI, even though its author wanted privacy
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Like with Anita Hill's information, people can't make claims that will be honored, unless there is due process. It's like people who call CPS, thinking they are anonymous. They aren't, and when a case goes to trial, their names are revealed. CPS just says it's anonymous to get people to call their offices. But, like any charge or complaint, the names are taken for future use. . |
Response to jalan48 (Reply #8)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:23 AM
mythology (9,527 posts)
16. Per CNN she has had it since July
Multiple sources also said Feinstein received the letter in July, well before she met with the nominee and prior to Kavanaugh's confirmation hearings last week. It is not clear why the information was not relayed to the FBI until Wednesday night.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/13/politics/kavanaugh-feinstein-letter-fbi/index.html |
Response to mythology (Reply #16)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:34 AM
jalan48 (8,561 posts)
18. Unreal. So this is our leadership?
Response to jalan48 (Reply #18)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:13 AM
Hortensis (28,390 posts)
33. What don't we know, though? About this one thing, I mean.
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Response to Hortensis (Reply #33)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 05:17 PM
jalan48 (8,561 posts)
45. Sad isn't it?
Response to jalan48 (Reply #45)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 06:11 PM
Hortensis (28,390 posts)
46. Yes. Narcissism as a sort of ultimate Dunning-Kruger.
Woodward's book is full of astonishing examples that he truly has no idea what it is to know something.
He has his favorite ideas and literally can't learn they're wrong from others because he can't understand that anyone would know something he doesn't. Facts that contradict what he wants to believe prove themselves wrong thereby. A closed system. For instance, he knows that if we have a deficit we can just print more money and make it go away. Proof positive those those pols who haven't managed to figure that out are really stupid. And of course of his very superior brain. ![]() |
Response to OnDoutside (Reply #5)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 07:34 AM
brush (22,285 posts)
10. Since July? I don't get this at all. Why didn't she grill him during the hearing...
about this like Harris, Leahy and Booker grilled him?
Why sit on it and then after the hearing is over then divulge it? Just shaking my head. God! We have to use what we have to stop these crooked, cheating repugs from ramming their crappy nominees unto the court. Stop with the being cautious nice person who doesn't want to ruffle feathers. |
Response to brush (Reply #10)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:55 AM
OnDoutside (10,206 posts)
22. California Representative Anna Eshoo got the letter in July, and
gave it to DiFi as below (I saw one article say she gave it in July).
The information came from a letter forwarded to her from the office of Representative Anna Eshoo (D-CA); the letter’s author was allegedly the subject of Kavanaugh’s alleged sexual misconduct, according to one of NYT‘s anonymous sources. Feinstein received the letter from Eshoo’s office sometime this summer, but did not inform the Judiciary Committee about its contents until September 12. She did not share the letter itself. Several Democrats apparently urged her to take it to the FBI, while others wanted her to take it public, according to NYT. https://hollywoodlife.com/2018/09/13/brett-kavanaugh-accused-sexual-misconduct-letter-supreme-court/ |
Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 07:33 AM
mucifer (14,302 posts)
9. Rachel said last night she thought the white house staff is so leaky she was expecting a leak
by the end of her show.
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Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 07:59 AM
Shrek (2,636 posts)
12. Unverified details in this Guardian piece
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/sep/13/brett-kavanaugh-dianne-feinstein-confidential-letter
A source who said they were briefed on the contents of the letter said it described an incident involving Kavanaugh and a woman that took place when both were 17 years old and at a party. According to the source, Kavanaugh and a male friend had locked her in a room against her will, making her feel threatened, but she was able to get out of the room. The Guardian has not verified the apparent claims in the letter. |
Response to Shrek (Reply #12)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:41 AM
FBaggins (17,794 posts)
19. There had better be more to it than that
Two teenage boys locked a girl in a room at a party but she was able to get out?
And 35 years later a senator decides that the FBI needs to know about it? |
Response to Shrek (Reply #12)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:48 AM
TheBlackAdder (11,722 posts)
20. Lawrence O'Donnell said he saw the letter. He let it slip it was sexual abuse related later in show.
Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #20)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:01 AM
john657 (1,058 posts)
27. How would he see the letter when
the rest of the Sen. Judiciary Committee hasn't?
That doesn't make any sense. |
Response to john657 (Reply #27)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:11 AM
TheBlackAdder (11,722 posts)
31. When he opened his show, talking to Rachel, that's when he said it. Perhaps ask him.
Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #31)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:14 AM
john657 (1,058 posts)
34. I'll do that.
To me, it just doesn't make any sense that he would see it, but the rest of the Sen. Judiciary hasn't.
Hopefully he wasn't punked. The Guardian is saying something different which doesn't involve any sexual assault. Hopefully we'll learn more in the coming days. |
Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:04 AM
Lee-Lee (6,324 posts)
14. Honestly, under most times the FBI couldn't investigate
Because none of what I’ve seen presented is or was a Federal crime.
For the FBI to investigate they would have to have jurisdiction, that requires a violation of Federal law within the statute of limitations. So the only time they could investigate is a very narrow window during the background check process for a nominee, which isn’t like a security clearance type check that is ongoing. Instead it’s a one-time check where they look and make a report to the White House and that’s it. Once it’s done it’s done, it’s like a one-time research project. Allegations of sexual misconduct between high school students are the jurisdiction of state and local law enforcement. The FBI can’t conduct a criminal investigation into them even if they wanted. At the most had they found this earlier they would have interviewed the victim, put it in the report, and maybe made a referral to local LE if they felt there was a crime. |
Response to Lee-Lee (Reply #14)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:49 AM
TheBlackAdder (11,722 posts)
21. Not true. It's their job to do background check. The crime would be state level, but FBI does check.
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They do comprehensive background checks on SCOTUS nominees. . |
Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #21)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:58 AM
FBaggins (17,794 posts)
25. Then perhaps DiFi should have provided it during the investigation
Or maybe... just maybe... she should have asked relevant questions at the hearing.
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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #21)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:08 AM
Lee-Lee (6,324 posts)
29. That's what I said
The only time they could is during the course of that investigation, and that is a one time report and not an ongoing process. They do the report and it’s done, they don’t revisit it.
This was evindly known by some people for some time, but not handed to the FBI until after the report was finalized. |
Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:11 AM
sarisataka (9,504 posts)
15. Have to agree with the FBI on this one
From the information in this article and on CNN, the senator had this letter available since July and did not send it until now. I am sure she was very well aware of the timeline for the background check.
Also, according to CNN, the letter was forwarded with all names redacted except for Mr. Kavanaugh. There is not a whole lot they can investigate without any names of people to question. |
Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:28 AM
Baitball Blogger (30,599 posts)
17. Channeling the Anita Hill - Clarence Thomas issue.
Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:57 AM
Garrett78 (7,665 posts)
23. I wonder if this will hurt Feinstein's re-election bid.
Response to Garrett78 (Reply #23)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:11 AM
onecaliberal (12,693 posts)
32. No it won't. We're not electing a fucking criminal repuke.
Response to onecaliberal (Reply #32)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:15 AM
FBaggins (17,794 posts)
35. Her opponent is a Democrat
She's still in an open primary running against the current president pro tem of the state senate
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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #32)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:34 AM
Garrett78 (7,665 posts)
39. Kevin de Leon is her opponent.
Response to Garrett78 (Reply #39)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:49 AM
onecaliberal (12,693 posts)
40. Yes, he's a California state Senator. He's an unknown in most parts of the state.
Response to onecaliberal (Reply #40)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 10:16 AM
Garrett78 (7,665 posts)
43. But he's not a criminal repuke. And our state Democratic Party endorsed him.
He'll probably get my vote.
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Response to Garrett78 (Reply #43)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 10:34 AM
onecaliberal (12,693 posts)
44. No he's not a criminal. My apologies.
Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:57 AM
SCVDem (3,700 posts)
24. I guess they don't care
because they weren't related to Hillary's e mails!
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Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:58 AM
OnDoutside (10,206 posts)
26. From the info we have right now, it looks a poor effort by Senate Dems. On so many levels, I hope
there's a lot more to this than an embarrassing wild goose chase.
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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #26)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:03 AM
john657 (1,058 posts)
28. Have to agree with you at this point. N/T
Response to OnDoutside (Reply #26)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:58 AM
eissa (3,781 posts)
42. This was a Hail Mary pass
An incident in high school that the FBI has deemed not serious enough to even investigate.
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Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:29 AM
bucolic_frolic (11,768 posts)
38. McConnell's rush job is not advise and consent, it's a whitewash
Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)
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Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:05 PM
TomSlick (3,179 posts)
47. I get that the FBI wouldn't investigate this as a criminal matter BUT
I would think the potential for blackmail would justify an investigation as part of a security investigation.
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