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Best take I've read about the ambivalence of celebrating McCain. (Original Post) nolabear Aug 2018 OP
Excellent. The writer expressed pretty much how I feel - The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2018 #1
Me too. The bar is godawful low, isn't it? nolabear Aug 2018 #2
You can admire a man's service while disagreeing with him... nycbos Aug 2018 #3
I will read this later while not at work, but this has been difficult for me to know... cbdo2007 Aug 2018 #4

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,661 posts)
1. Excellent. The writer expressed pretty much how I feel -
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 02:56 PM
Aug 2018

I didn't like McCain's politics and he pissed me off more often than not but I couldn't help respecting him - which is more than I can say for most other politicians, and especially the so-called president.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
4. I will read this later while not at work, but this has been difficult for me to know...
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 03:45 PM
Aug 2018

how to react. Sure, I am grateful for what he did in his military service, but a lot of the things they are giving him credit for, like the Obama-Arab woman he is getting credit for falsely. Sure, he stood up for Obama then...after MONTHS of him trying to convince everyone that he *might* be a muslim terrorist, and Palin was still doing it even after this and McCain never said anything.

Sure, he stood up to Trump in the media...but then he literally voted with the Repubes and Trump on everything except for one vote on the health care issue, so it's not like he was really standing up against him.

I probably haven't been this conflicted in a death in quite some time. I'm happy for him to get to lie in state and for his many decades of service to the country.

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