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Sat Aug 25, 2018, 08:12 PM

Al Franken on John McCain's passing

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I met John for the first time when he gave a eulogy for a mutual friend in 1994. The friend, David Ifshin, had been an anti-war protester during Vietnam and had gone to North Vietnam with Jane Fonda. Radio Hanoi blasted Ifshin’s and Fonda’s denunciations of our involvement in the war, and John got to listen to it from his cell at the Hanoi Hilton.

Years later, Ifshin was legal counsel for Walter Mondale’s 1984 presidential campaign. McCain, a House member at the time, blasted Mondale for having this despicable guy on his campaign. Ifshin came to the Hill, went to McCain’s office and apologized to him. McCain said, “No, I should apologize. You’re an American and were exercising your First Amendment rights.” The two became good friends and worked together to normalize relations between the U.S. and Vietnam.

This is a pretty typical John McCain story. First, he gets mad at you and then works with you to get something done. John yelled at me after I cast my first vote in the Senate. It was a McCain amendment on a Defense Appropriations Bill that would have cut anti-terrorist funding to bus lines. I had no idea how to vote, but I figured terrorists might want to target a bus at some time or other. I voted “aye,” and John, standing in the well, yelled at me, “So this is what your Senate career is going to be about!? Voting for pork!”

Soon after we worked together on reimportation of prescription drugs. We both live in border states and know how absurd it is for Americans to have to cross the border to get the exact same American manufactured drugs for a fraction of the cost.

Unfortunately, neither of us will be there on the floor to see that become law.

In 2014, Harry Reid persuaded John to tell the whole story of his captivity in Vietnam at a bipartisan lunch. It’s the first time he had talked about those five terrible years to his colleagues, and it was unbelievably moving for all of us. Later that afternoon, we had votes and I went up to him on the floor. “John, that was amazing today at lunch. Thank you for telling your story.”

John smiled modestly and nodded, “Thank you, Al.”

“Now, how much of it was actually true?” I asked. John grinned that big grin of his and laughed.

Our last conversation was during a series of late night votes before he went home to Arizona. He was very sick from the treatments for the cancer, but holding court, giving off love, smiles, and good humor from his wheelchair.

A man of amazing courage. A man who knew the meaning of honor and lived it. A true patriot.


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Reply Al Franken on John McCain's passing (Original post)
babylonsister Aug 25 OP
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2018, 08:14 PM

1. Thank you! n/t

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2018, 08:14 PM

2. That's how a real human being salutes a fellow traveler.

Thank you for posting it.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2018, 08:17 PM

3. Like Obama's tribute...

Class.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2018, 09:01 PM

4. Rest In Peace John




Peace, strength and healing to the McCain family.



Thanks for the thread babylonsister.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2018, 09:02 PM

5. class

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2018, 09:11 PM

6. Al Franken Is a patriot

Wish he were still in the Senate.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2018, 09:18 PM

7. A classic tribute by a man of class to another man of class

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2018, 09:19 PM

8. Class.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2018, 09:42 PM

9. And I can tell you

These are the kinds of condolences that are of comfort to those who have lost a loved one. Al Franken, President Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, George W. Bush - all class acts at a time like this.

When I have lost loved ones, it touched my heart to read condolences that said WHY my loved one mattered. I read them over and over, many times long after the death.

And then there's -45. As someone said in response to his brief basically thoughtless tweet, who the hell uses an exclamation point when expressing condolences?

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2018, 09:46 PM

10. I've had the honor of knowing a few Patriots...

Generally parents of students stationed at or living close to nearby bases. They are selfless patriots. Couples who both serve with young children at home. I can’t comprehend the sacrifice of the entire family, but I thank each one for their honor and bravery.
I thank John McCain tonight, for his service to our country and for putting honor and patriotism above all else. May be not Rest In Peace, but dance with angels.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2018, 09:48 PM

11. A great tribute.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2018, 10:50 PM

12. Touching human stories told with respect and honor.

Thank you Al, you're another fine gentleman in our midst....... .......

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2018, 11:48 PM

13. Great stories, and a great tribute by one of my favorite Democrats. Thanks, Al.

He was an honorable man, and of course, a true hero and a man who loved his country and its citizens.

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Sun Aug 26, 2018, 12:25 AM

15. What a wonderful tribute. Love Al. n/t

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Aug 26, 2018, 02:06 AM

16. Class

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Aug 26, 2018, 02:59 AM

17. A deeply moving tribute to one truly American Original from Another

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Aug 26, 2018, 03:10 AM

18. He needs to find a way to move forward and back into the fold. nt

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Aug 26, 2018, 03:58 AM

19. Well said by one true leader about another true leader.

Rest in Peace John McCain. The World has lost an important voice of reason and sanity.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Aug 26, 2018, 11:53 AM

20. Guys like these - Franken and McCain - are the types who bring out the best in people.

UNLIKE a certain orange Russian Asset whose only mission in life seems to be to deceive in order to get his way.

I swear - the comparisons, which will come in tidal waves throughout this media mourning period for Senator McCain, may well jolt a few people awake on that side of the aisle. Whether they're Capitol Hill colleagues or voters out there in DeplorableLand. It's got to happen with at least a few.

While we mourn John McCain, it can't help but become obvious, even while unspoken, what a glaring and even painful contrast the John McCain story is - with that of donald trump. I can't help but suspect that it will get to at least a few of trump's hard-cores, who will actually be reminded of what REAL greatness in our public officials - AND honesty, also, is.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Aug 26, 2018, 12:00 PM

21. K & R!

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Aug 26, 2018, 03:01 PM

22. We need Franken back in the Senate

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Aug 26, 2018, 04:28 PM

23. Al Franken is SUCH a class act.

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Sun Aug 26, 2018, 06:59 PM

24. We need Al back in the Senate, now more than ever.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Aug 26, 2018, 08:12 PM

25. i sure miss al

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Aug 26, 2018, 08:29 PM

26. Thank-you! I read this earlier and passed it on to...

all my loyal Al Franken friends.
He got right to the soul of the man.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Aug 26, 2018, 08:32 PM

27. Substantial and platitude-free

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Sun Aug 26, 2018, 10:31 PM

28. Al Franken belongs in public service.

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