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Joyce Vance: You don't give Weisselberg and Pecker immunity to prosecute Cohen. (Original Post) triron Aug 2018 OP
Ya can always count on Joyce for clarity ! donkeypoofed Aug 2018 #1
especially NewJeffCT Aug 2018 #2
I'll go with the experienced feds empedocles Aug 2018 #3
Joyce does a great job on MSNBC Elwood P Dowd Aug 2018 #4
Her appearance on Preet Bharara's podcast this week is worth a listen, too klook Aug 2018 #18
Nope. Mueller's playing chess and Trump's playing ... GeorgeGist Aug 2018 #5
while sleep deprived. unitedwethrive Aug 2018 #7
Ah, so true PatSeg Aug 2018 #6
When I see that Joyce Vance MontanaMama Aug 2018 #8
Check her out on Preet Bharara's podcast klook Aug 2018 #19
I subscribe to Preet's podcast MontanaMama Aug 2018 #23
I know for certain that Mueller's probe is massive and implicates Trump personally as the traitor Pepsidog Aug 2018 #9
So, you don't actually know it for certain. maxsolomon Aug 2018 #20
Just a bit of hyperbole and wishful thinking. Pepsidog Aug 2018 #21
Well said. BlueWI Aug 2018 #24
My money is on Don & Don Jr being targets. nt CaptainTruth Aug 2018 #10
Who around Trump will dare tell him that? gordianot Aug 2018 #11
Yup. He's got these two guys, and Gates, and Papadopolous, and Flynn... MGKrebs Aug 2018 #12
I posted on another forum this morning. gibraltar72 Aug 2018 #13
I agree duforsure Aug 2018 #14
Trump is finished Dopers_Greed Aug 2018 #15
I said exactly the same thing today green917 Aug 2018 #16
If Trump's not a target in either probe, it is only because they choose not to indict. triron Aug 2018 #17
There's no way these guys are getting immunity or such short sentences unless... Ligyron Aug 2018 #22

donkeypoofed

(2,187 posts)
1. Ya can always count on Joyce for clarity !
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 02:10 PM
Aug 2018

Well said. Heeheeeheeheeheehee, this is fun! Spanky is gonna be twisted like a pretzel over this.

MontanaMama

(23,307 posts)
8. When I see that Joyce Vance
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 03:11 PM
Aug 2018

is going to be interviewed, I stop what I’m doing to pay attention. She’s smart, experienced and cuts to the heart of whatever is happening. She’s a valuable truth teller.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
9. I know for certain that Mueller's probe is massive and implicates Trump personally as the traitor
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 03:12 PM
Aug 2018

he is. How do I know this? For over 18 months there has not been a single substantive leak from the Mueller investigation. This must involve hundreds of people in secretarial, clerical, and grand jury members who know the President is a traitor and the fate of the country is at stake. The silence from the Mueller probe screams to us that some very, very bad things have and are continuing to happen involving the President and the Republican Party. Mueller’s probe when made public, will cause the wholesale rejection of republican orthodoxy and bring about a progressive wave of action that will change our society for generations. The far right will be nothing more than a footnote in history as the reordering of our political, social, and economic lives are sorted out by the next 20 years of progressive leadership. The silent majority of good Americans will no longer be sidelined. The republicans have woken a sleeping giant.

BlueWI

(1,736 posts)
24. Well said.
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 11:21 PM
Aug 2018

This veteran prosecutor has stepped up in a way that few others have done. The team deserves every accolade it gets.

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
11. Who around Trump will dare tell him that?
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 03:32 PM
Aug 2018

He seems totally clueless in reading people and will never admit his own mistakes.

MGKrebs

(8,138 posts)
12. Yup. He's got these two guys, and Gates, and Papadopolous, and Flynn...
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 03:38 PM
Aug 2018

plus the tax returns and god knows what all else.
Even if he doesn't indict Il Duce I think he's going to try to make his report to Congress so overwhelming that they really can't avoid taking some serious action.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
14. I agree
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 04:10 PM
Aug 2018

But by seeing other crimes, or possible crimes it gives them the right to further investigate, including other individuals . Like with Mueller , and like with the Clinton investigations when they found out about his affair in the White House with Monica.

green917

(442 posts)
16. I said exactly the same thing today
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 05:10 PM
Aug 2018

These 2 prosecutorial maneuvers mean that, although 45 may be just a subject in the Mueller investigation, he's a target (if not THE target) in the SDNY case involving Cohen.

Ligyron

(7,627 posts)
22. There's no way these guys are getting immunity or such short sentences unless...
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 07:02 PM
Aug 2018

Yeah, Trump or members of his family no doubt.


The wild card here is Roger Stone.

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