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Sun Aug 19, 2018, 07:38 AM

Democratic congressman says party leaders' rising ages are a 'problem'

The leader of a centrist bloc of Democratic lawmakers expressed concern Friday that the party's top three House leaders are in their late 70s, joining a chorus of younger Democrats questioning older leaders' ability to overcome the party's "generational gap."

Rep. Jim Himes of Connecticut, the chairman of the centrist New Democrat Coalition, told CNN that party leaders' rising ages are a "problem" and declined to say whether he would support House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., for speaker if Democrats take control of the House in the midterm elections.

...Acknowledging he is a "huge admirer of Nancy Pelosi's operational ability," Himes, 52, said Democrats will soon need leaders who can communicate effectively with younger voters.

"The fact that our top three leaders are in their late 70s - I don't care who those leaders are - that is, in fact, a problem," he said.

"We are at a moment in time where young people are involved as they never have been before," he said. "I don't care how good you are - there is a generation gap.”

More at https://m.ctpost.com/news/article/Democratic-congressman-says-party-leaders-rising-13164315.php

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Reply Democratic congressman says party leaders' rising ages are a 'problem' (Original post)
BeyondGeography Aug 2018 OP
beachbum bob Aug 2018 #1
BeyondGeography Aug 2018 #2
beachbum bob Aug 2018 #3
mythology Aug 2018 #9
beachbum bob Aug 2018 #12
BeyondGeography Aug 2018 #14
beachbum bob Aug 2018 #18
JI7 Aug 2018 #4
BeyondGeography Aug 2018 #5
JI7 Aug 2018 #6
BeyondGeography Aug 2018 #7
JI7 Aug 2018 #8
Squinch Aug 2018 #10
padah513 Aug 2018 #11
redstatebluegirl Aug 2018 #13
gulliver Aug 2018 #15
eleny Aug 2018 #16
BeyondGeography Aug 2018 #17

Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2018, 07:42 AM

1. there are elections for leadership positions in every congressional term, so if

 

"younger members" want some new, they have to fight for it in the same manner as we do in getting our candidates elected

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Response to beachbum bob (Reply #1)

Sun Aug 19, 2018, 07:44 AM

2. Or some people could take a hint

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #2)

Sun Aug 19, 2018, 07:49 AM

3. the "old guard" still have support, among the members, among voters and among donors. So an

 

effective argument AND replacements need to be made/found. Just saying, there is always dissension between those in power and those seeking power.

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Response to beachbum bob (Reply #3)

Sun Aug 19, 2018, 08:12 AM

9. For the good of the party long term, they should be helping bring along younger leaders

 

When somebody as effective as Pelosi leaves, there will always been at least some leadership gap, but if they are better at putting the next generations in positions to be effective, the party will be better situated long term.

But also we, meaning people as a whole, benefit from a diversity of ideas. Having all of our leaders fall into any one demographic bucket, limits the ideas leadership is putting forward. Just like as a straight white guy I will have a hard time understanding what a lesbian black woman needs, older rich people who have been in power for years may not understand what younger voters/potential voters need.

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Response to mythology (Reply #9)

Sun Aug 19, 2018, 10:43 AM

12. you are assuming that "younger members" are not being brought along,

 

first step is placement on the proper committees, followed by being the minority (or majority) person on the committee, followed up by placement with in the party's structure in the House (or senate) by being a "Whip" or a member of that team. It takes time and work, not just complaining about the "old guard".

How the hell do these people think the "old guard" got where they got?

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Response to beachbum bob (Reply #12)

Sun Aug 19, 2018, 02:27 PM

14. Committee chairs are based on seniority

So the “old guard” when it comes to the top spots got there by being there longer than anyone else. Not everyone finds that to be impressive, or motivating. Why the hell do you think so many House Democrats want things to change?

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #14)

Sun Aug 19, 2018, 03:43 PM

18. Then if numbers are sufficient, they can

 

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Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2018, 07:50 AM

4. "chairman of the centrist New Democrat Coalition"

these guys want a mediocre white male to hold all the top spots.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #4)

Sun Aug 19, 2018, 07:53 AM

5. Seems like the demand for change is coming from all angles

Doesn’t it?

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 19, 2018, 07:55 AM

6. no, mostly from mediocre white men

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Response to JI7 (Reply #6)

Sun Aug 19, 2018, 07:59 AM

7. Rashida Tlaib, Linda Sanchez, Kathleen Rice...

Yeah.

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #7)

Sun Aug 19, 2018, 08:01 AM

8. still mostly white men

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Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2018, 08:17 AM

10. They manufacture stories about dissent among Democrats and someone on DU falls for it every time.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #10)

Sun Aug 19, 2018, 08:28 AM

11. It never fails

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Response to Squinch (Reply #10)

Sun Aug 19, 2018, 01:47 PM

13. Every single time.

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Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2018, 02:33 PM

15. To some extent, we should go by who votes.

It's not that we need to punish younger voters for shirking their duty to vote. Maybe we find an appropriate way to give their concerns more of a voice if they do vote. Carrot, not stick.

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Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2018, 02:39 PM

16. Institutional knowledge is why Rep. Nadler tied Goodlatte into knots during recent Judiciary hearing

Chairman Goodlatte was a mess by the time Nadler and other savvy Dems were done that day.

More on Dem actions taken regarding the Committee and how well the Dems could take action because they have deep knowledge based on many years of service in the House of Reps.
https://democrats-judiciary.house.gov/news/press-releases/judiciary-democrats-committee-has-been-hijacked-its-most-extreme-republican

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Response to eleny (Reply #16)

Sun Aug 19, 2018, 02:43 PM

17. Nadler is great

He’s also ranking member only because Conyers was forced to resign.

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