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Wed Aug 15, 2018, 09:21 AM

Simple question (maybe)

If it can be proven that RUMP PROMISED PARDONS to his cronies, can this be Obstruction?? If so what can he be charged with?

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 09:25 AM

1. depends on what he discussed in return.

presumably suborning perjury, if he asked them to lie under oath.

witness tampering, obstruction, etc.

obviously a high crime and misdemeanor as well, if congress cared about such things....

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Wed Aug 15, 2018, 09:32 AM

2. TY! This again would be a federal charge am i right?

So we could be talking SELF PARDONING? Also would Mueller ask Manafort this question after receiving and accepting this possible pardon? Sorry so many questions!

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 09:41 AM

3. given that it's a federal case, yes, these would be federal charges.

though it's also possible for donnie to commit a state-level criminal offense by promising a federal pardon if he's trying to get a witness to commit perjury or obstruct justice in a state-level investigation/trial.

i don't think any court would really uphold a self-pardon. i think it's just too ridiculous, too obviously contrary to the framers' intent.

yes, mueller could ask about a pardon, though presumably manafort would just lie about that....

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