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Tue Aug 14, 2018, 06:10 PM

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If RUMP pardons Manafort, do you think Mueller will call him (Manafort) before a grand Jury? I understand he could no longer plead the 5th if he accepts the pardon? Any thoughts here?

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Tue Aug 14, 2018, 06:12 PM

1. Red Don will commute Manaforts sentence like Bush did for Libby but my understanding

... the state can bring charges against Manafort also

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #1)

Tue Aug 14, 2018, 06:14 PM

2. Right but i'm thinking Mueller could STILL get him to testify or JAIL the bastard!!??

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 14, 2018, 06:39 PM

7. Yes.. Mueller could then subpoena him to testify (and could not plead the fifth on Federal matters)

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Tue Aug 14, 2018, 06:14 PM

3. There's the kicker. The way I see it (and I'm probably wrong but)

If he parsons Paulie Walnuts for this trial, Mueller will want truthful testimony. If he fails to answer Mueller's subpoena, he'll be in contempt. trump would have to pardon his contempt charge and we'd go round in round in court and drag out forever.

Like I said, I'm probably wrong.

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #3)

Tue Aug 14, 2018, 06:17 PM

5. Well i think you right But would be nice to keep Manafort in Jail awhile!!

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Tue Aug 14, 2018, 06:16 PM

4. He can still invoke the 5th, just not related to the specific pardoned charges.

If his testimony might incriminate him regarding a federal crime not covered by the pardon, or any state crime, he can still take the 5th.

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Response to unblock (Reply #4)

Tue Aug 14, 2018, 06:18 PM

6. Gotcha there BUT

Wouldn't he have to answer questions about RUMP?

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #6)

Tue Aug 14, 2018, 07:04 PM

8. Only if his answer wouldn't tend to incriminate him in a non-pardoned offense

Of course he can always not remember....

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