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Congressman Chris Collins is retiring (Original Post) Gothmog Aug 2018 OP
Good riddance to criminal trash dalton99a Aug 2018 #1
Is there an over-under on whether he skips off to Russia? TheBlackAdder Aug 2018 #132
Well that didn't take long. marylandblue Aug 2018 #2
Ghouliani's FBI contacts must have put the word in the pipeline: "He did it." NCjack Aug 2018 #160
Another one bites the dust. CottonBear Aug 2018 #3
VOTE NATE McMURRAY !!! NY-27 pangaia Aug 2018 #68
Can he still get insider trading information from his Republican friends? dem4decades Aug 2018 #4
Atty. Gen. Sessions promised Rep. Collins access to a cell phone... magicarpet Aug 2018 #35
I wouldn't be surprised. dem4decades Aug 2018 #38
He's the one giving out the information, so he'll be okay anyway. marylandblue Aug 2018 #42
he needs this time to ready himself for the other big house mucifer Aug 2018 #5
OMFG, IS THIS TRUE ????????? DinahMoeHum Aug 2018 #6
From MSNBC Gothmog Aug 2018 #19
Aw. NurseJackie Aug 2018 #7
Well, all I can say to that is tblue37 Aug 2018 #8
Us ole folks watch him ever' nite on 'ME' teevee. sprinkleeninow Aug 2018 #95
Here... sheshe2 Aug 2018 #9
No. Its to spend more time with his fellow crooks. I hope he enjoys his cell mates intimate company. olegramps Aug 2018 #30
So does that mean, the district is now uncontested or what happens? sunonmars Aug 2018 #10
I think it means Republicans trying to save the seat. ooky Aug 2018 #27
can they do that? He is only suspending his campaign, has not pulled out. sunonmars Aug 2018 #31
Its the only thing that makes sense to me. ooky Aug 2018 #45
It's a strongly gerrymandered district. SergeStorms Aug 2018 #55
also mostly rural... MANY small farmers pangaia Aug 2018 #73
Yes - my daughter went to a summer camp in upstate NY last summer NewJeffCT Aug 2018 #172
Are districts in NY determined by the Governor? I know WI is horribly gerrymandered, 33taw Aug 2018 #80
Cuomo wasn't the Governor in 2013 when the districts were drawn up FakeNoose Aug 2018 #83
Thanks for the info. I moved from CO to WI. Needless to say - different world. 33taw Aug 2018 #90
"They can't win unless they cheat." Low-down. All of them. eom sprinkleeninow Aug 2018 #100
This one is terribly gerrymandered in 2013.... pangaia Aug 2018 #87
Not directly by the Governor, but Cuomo is indirectly to blame Jim Lane Aug 2018 #104
Sorry Jim Lane, this isn't an opportunity to bash Andrew Cuomo FakeNoose Aug 2018 #154
Cuomo is in a contested Democratic primary and is fair game for criticism. Jim Lane Aug 2018 #162
There are a few rthings that would let them do that. pangaia Aug 2018 #71
DEMOCRAT NATE MCMURRAY, long shot candidate Hortensis Aug 2018 #54
Hortensis,,, I live here and am a Nate volunteer. pangaia Aug 2018 #85
Thank you, Pangaia. I hate that Roll Call and Mother Jones Hortensis Aug 2018 #98
Thanks, Hortensis... pangaia Aug 2018 #118
How exciting for you guys. :) Hortensis Aug 2018 #123
Here's a link to send him $$$$$$ - I just made a contribution - NBachers Aug 2018 #165
This scenario demonstrates how gerrymandering helps the incumbent candidates FakeNoose Aug 2018 #120
It may be impossible to remove Collins from the ballot Gothmog Aug 2018 #107
in other words...'I'M GUILTY AS HELL' spanone Aug 2018 #11
+10000000 bronxiteforever Aug 2018 #18
Spot on! SergeStorms Aug 2018 #56
THIS !!!! uponit7771 Aug 2018 #67
"I am hoping for a Presidential pardon" lapfog_1 Aug 2018 #81
Bwahahahaha! Hope he likes stripes! nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #141
And the Feds have proof malaise Aug 2018 #110
I think he's been told, he's going to jail. sunonmars Aug 2018 #12
Go F yourself on the way out you greedy, stupid, criminal hack JDC Aug 2018 #13
Stop blaming Democrats for your own greed and corruption! smirkymonkey Aug 2018 #14
Decent Republicans refused to back Trump... Dennis Donovan Aug 2018 #79
My thought exactly elias7 Aug 2018 #124
When your headed to the Fed Pen, its a good idea to suspend. Just Remember Martha. Historic NY Aug 2018 #15
From my twitter feed Gothmog Aug 2018 #16
The responses are brutal and funny as hell. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Aug 2018 #17
Yep Gothmog Aug 2018 #20
You're not kidding.... PCIntern Aug 2018 #26
Well, That Didn't Take Long. MineralMan Aug 2018 #21
yes, it is possible. pangaia Aug 2018 #88
Yes, I learned that shortly after writing. MineralMan Aug 2018 #94
I live here and volunteer for Nate. pangaia Aug 2018 #96
Well, I don't have any $$$$, so I'll just offer my best wishes for MineralMan Aug 2018 #99
Ah, MM , you're the greatest.... pangaia Aug 2018 #106
I hope you do. Fun Is Good! MineralMan Aug 2018 #108
In 2006, Tom DeLay won the GOP primary and tried to get off the ballot Gothmog Aug 2018 #111
Well, apparently, it would be easy for Collins to "move out" MineralMan Aug 2018 #113
I wonder if there will be litigation Gothmog Aug 2018 #117
Now it is looking like the RNC may have him run for .. TOWN CLERK !!!!!!!!!! pangaia Aug 2018 #119
I saw that Gothmog Aug 2018 #147
I just got home from a presser with Nate McMurray in Rochester. pangaia Aug 2018 #152
Cool Gothmog Aug 2018 #153
Ok...who got to him? He was going to fight... HipChick Aug 2018 #22
Forced out ooky Aug 2018 #23
What good name? world wide wally Aug 2018 #24
he's running from the law.... spanone Aug 2018 #25
Yes yes yes. "Maybe Paul Manafort will be his bunkmate." Msnbc Glimmer of Hope Aug 2018 #28
Nice attempt at deflection there, Chris. blogslut Aug 2018 #29
Forgive my skepticism, but that isn't exactly a "retirement" announcement Jersey Devil Aug 2018 #32
This was my thought Cosmocat Aug 2018 #46
Another article says he will give up the nomination (if he can) Jersey Devil Aug 2018 #51
Right. H2O Man Aug 2018 #63
He can say he's moving. ooky Aug 2018 #84
Buh-bye-ee Rorey Aug 2018 #33
Adios, shithead. (nt) Paladin Aug 2018 #34
The entire irrelevant first paragraph is the story of the Republican Party. LuckyLib Aug 2018 #36
Right? kimmylavin Aug 2018 #93
I think it was the NY Repugs who demanded that he resign FakeNoose Aug 2018 #109
Will he be able to collect that fat pension while he's in prison? GoCubsGo Aug 2018 #37
Another crook bites the dust. see ya! eom LittleGirl Aug 2018 #39
Never let a repuke run unopposed. This is why NightWatcher Aug 2018 #40
Lol! Retiring? True Blue American Aug 2018 #41
gonna spend some time at the martha steward retirement spa dembotoz Aug 2018 #57
FLUSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! TheCowsCameHome Aug 2018 #43
Damn, they are all a bunch of smarmy weasels. montana_hazeleyes Aug 2018 #44
Wait,... wait,... don't go,... don't you have some juicy stock tips to... magicarpet Aug 2018 #47
Another crooked commie lover bites the dust! SergeStorms Aug 2018 #48
Hey... THAT'S IT.. We call repubs COMMIE LOVERS !!!!!!!! pangaia Aug 2018 #89
"reduce the size of government" - LOL Garrett78 Aug 2018 #49
Interesting, I think at this late date the rethugs won't have enough arthritisR_US Aug 2018 #50
I predicted he'd announce it quietly on Friday night eleny Aug 2018 #52
I don't know if they can take him off the ballot at this point. George II Aug 2018 #53
They can, if, weird as it sounds, he remains on the ballot for another office Brother Buzz Aug 2018 #69
Seppuku would be honorable, considering his options. The Republicans could then replace him. Marcuse Aug 2018 #142
Prison Bound.... sarcasmo Aug 2018 #58
That's too bad Strelnikov_ Aug 2018 #59
Is Jail now a retirement community? spanone Aug 2018 #60
Spending More Time With Family LandOfHopeAndDreams Aug 2018 #61
Trump will probably appoint him Sec. of Treasury or something... Sancho Aug 2018 #62
There may be a need for a new Commerce Secretary soon. Hugin Aug 2018 #72
Retiring due to criminal charges, and uses his statement to bash Dems Dopers_Greed Aug 2018 #64
"Retiring", right. Collins is full of unmitigated bull crap... Guilded Lilly Aug 2018 #65
Fuck you, traitor. nt Ferrets are Cool Aug 2018 #66
Good riddance! DesertRat Aug 2018 #70
translation: I've seen their evidence and they have me dead to rights. Hamlette Aug 2018 #74
Great post! calimary Aug 2018 #161
To spend more time with his (crime) family? AllyCat Aug 2018 #75
He had this drug scheme going on for over a year and we the taxpayers were paying his turbinetree Aug 2018 #76
Awesome post! PearliePoo2 Aug 2018 #86
I totally second that. calimary Aug 2018 #112
Wado------------Thank you turbinetree Aug 2018 #145
Wado------------Thank you turbinetree Aug 2018 #144
LOCK HIM UP!!! workinclasszero Aug 2018 #77
Go Nate McMurray! SunSeeker Aug 2018 #78
YAY !! YES !!!!!!!!!!! pangaia Aug 2018 #92
Just saw Nate on national TV. Hortensis Aug 2018 #136
Great.. I tried to watch but couldn't get it to play pangaia Aug 2018 #137
Thoughts and prayers.... MontanaMama Aug 2018 #82
He wants to spend more time with his attorney. gtar100 Aug 2018 #91
He's gonna HAVE TO spend more time with his attorney. calimary Aug 2018 #114
HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAH obamanut2012 Aug 2018 #97
Collins retires to spend more money on his lawyer's families. TeamPooka Aug 2018 #101
And after that...prison... PatrickforO Aug 2018 #102
Bye asshole orangecrush Aug 2018 #103
Womp womp. calimary Aug 2018 #105
Karma is fun sometimes Gothmog Aug 2018 #149
Love it! calimary Aug 2018 #157
Damn that Nancy Pelosi, making it impossible for Chris to stay in office because she'd Impeach DT... ehrnst Aug 2018 #115
It may be difficult to replace Collins on the ballot Gothmog Aug 2018 #116
My guess, he moves out of state. Blue_true Aug 2018 #128
He spent most of his life in private. LiberalFighter Aug 2018 #121
Will free him up for Trump cabinet post. Sneederbunk Aug 2018 #122
The first paragraph wasn't necessary Catherine Vincent Aug 2018 #125
Does he think this gets him off the hook??? TNNurse Aug 2018 #126
He's going to spend more time WhiteTara Aug 2018 #127
He'll probably only spend less than a year in jail, rusty fender Aug 2018 #131
He's going to spend quality time with his son. They will share a cell. grantcart Aug 2018 #148
Wants to spend more time with his warden. nt Laffy Kat Aug 2018 #129
Criminal POS. warmfeet Aug 2018 #130
Now Collins can use campaign funds for lawyers Gothmog Aug 2018 #133
Wait a minute! Isn't that what Pelosi went to jail for? tavernier Aug 2018 #158
why? he is a millionaire. Demovictory9 Aug 2018 #164
Needs time to pack for federal prison. Haha asshole, I hope you lose it all. Pepsidog Aug 2018 #134
What's the difference between "retiring" & "suspending the campaign", or is it the same thing? Tarheel_Dem Aug 2018 #135
He's "retiring" to prison. nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #140
Love this reply from @adamcbest -- klook Aug 2018 #138
YSGJ oasis Aug 2018 #139
Joke of jokes... Hulk Aug 2018 #143
one-third of the members of the House Energy and Commerce Committee also bought and sold biotech or Gothmog Aug 2018 #146
Can John Culbertson be next? Gothmog Aug 2018 #150
Good riddance to criminal rubbish meow2u3 Aug 2018 #151
KR NT ProudProgressiveNow Aug 2018 #155
it is good he is retiring? WTF did his hillary paragraph have anything to do with it demtenjeep Aug 2018 #156
Yes, Hillary has amazing powers. tavernier Aug 2018 #159
Chris Collins says he wants to spend more time with his lawyers. JHB Aug 2018 #163
What was his wife doing there? edbermac Aug 2018 #166
He's not even trying to dispute the charges against himself MrScorpio Aug 2018 #167
Retiring from gray pinstripes to black and white horizontal stripes: enjoy your ... marble falls Aug 2018 #168
Congressman John Culbertson could be next Gothmog Aug 2018 #169
Carl Paladino is back Gothmog Aug 2018 #170
Dems say they'll sue to keep Collins on ballot Gothmog Aug 2018 #171

CottonBear

(21,596 posts)
3. Another one bites the dust.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 10:12 AM
Aug 2018

Good riddance.

Democrats GOTV!

Vote in the 2018 special and midterm elections!

magicarpet

(13,935 posts)
35. Atty. Gen. Sessions promised Rep. Collins access to a cell phone...
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 10:50 AM
Aug 2018

.... while he is locked up and in jail. That way he can get insider trading info from other Rethugs and then place sell/buy orders with his stockbroker from the privacy of his jail cell. He was promised he could continue his grifter and corrupt practices from behind bars - so he is good with that.

sprinkleeninow

(20,133 posts)
95. Us ole folks watch him ever' nite on 'ME' teevee.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 12:27 PM
Aug 2018

Well, GAW-LEE!

Hello, CHRIS?:
Hasta la pasta, dirtbag. LET the door hit ya in the proverbial on yer way out!11!!

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
30. No. Its to spend more time with his fellow crooks. I hope he enjoys his cell mates intimate company.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 10:42 AM
Aug 2018

ooky

(8,885 posts)
27. I think it means Republicans trying to save the seat.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 10:38 AM
Aug 2018

Put somebody else on the ballot before its too late.

ooky

(8,885 posts)
45. Its the only thing that makes sense to me.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 11:00 AM
Aug 2018

I expect they are worried if they don't get him out now and he drops out when its too late to change the ballot they risk losing the seat. Its a strong red district so perhaps they are thinking if they can get a legit candidate on the ballot they improve their chances to win. But I am guessing.

SergeStorms

(18,882 posts)
55. It's a strongly gerrymandered district.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 11:14 AM
Aug 2018

For some reason that district - which completely surrounds the City of Buffalo - doesn't include Buffalo! Imagine that.

But yes, western New York is - much to my chagrin - a very red area. It's part of the "rust belt"; steel workers, Hooker Chemical workers (remember Love Canal?), grain processing workers, and a host of other businesses that have closed up shop forever. With those Union jobs gone, the place turned redder than red.

NewJeffCT

(56,827 posts)
172. Yes - my daughter went to a summer camp in upstate NY last summer
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 08:17 PM
Aug 2018

and, while the camp itself was very nice some of the towns up there a very rural and very poor, lots of older pickup trucks and I would not have been surprised to see gun racks and/or confederate flags flying from them (yes, I know NY is solidly in the northern part of the country... but, I just had that feeling about the area)

Kind of sad actually - all those nice hotels that were depicted in movies like Dirty Dancing are gone. I think there is one of them left.

The "big" cities up there have been mostly in decline since the 1950s/60s - Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, Albany.

Buffalo had a population of 580,000 in 1950, 530,000 in 1960, 463,000 in 1970, 358,000 in 1980, and around 260,000 today.

33taw

(2,420 posts)
80. Are districts in NY determined by the Governor? I know WI is horribly gerrymandered,
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 11:53 AM
Aug 2018

Because of Walker. But I would have thought NY would be less so.

FakeNoose

(32,331 posts)
83. Cuomo wasn't the Governor in 2013 when the districts were drawn up
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 12:03 PM
Aug 2018

The previous Governor Pataki was a Repug - I'm sure he looked the other way while the legislature did this.
Same thing happened in Pennsylvania, only here in PA it's been going on for much longer.

Repugs are the same everywhere, they can't win unless they cheat.

33taw

(2,420 posts)
90. Thanks for the info. I moved from CO to WI. Needless to say - different world.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 12:19 PM
Aug 2018

Ryan’s district is horrible. I hope we can get Walker out of there for 2020.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
104. Not directly by the Governor, but Cuomo is indirectly to blame
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 12:52 PM
Aug 2018

Each redistricting must be approved by both houses of the legislature and signed by the Governor (or passed over his veto).

Republicans control the State Senate and Democrats control the Assembly. Therefore, regardless of who's Governor, the redistricting must have the support of both parties. They generally reach the same compromise each time, namely protecting the incumbents.

All this is Cuomo's fault because he has, until this year, played footsie with the traitor Democrats of the Independent Democratic Conference -- a group of State Senators who are elected as Democrats but who then caucus with the Republicans. Cuomo found it expedient to let the Senate stay in Republican hands so as to block progressive legislation. That way, he doesn't have to face the choice of signing or vetoing such a bill, when either choice might alienate some Democrats.

If Cuomo had brought all his weight to bear, New York would be a Democratic "trifecta" -- control of the governorship plus both houses of the state legislature.

FakeNoose

(32,331 posts)
154. Sorry Jim Lane, this isn't an opportunity to bash Andrew Cuomo
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 10:01 PM
Aug 2018

Not only are you incorrect about the timeline - the NY-27th gerrymandering happened before Cuomo's first term which began in 2014.

But also in general - Andrew Cuomo is an accomplished Democratic governor of a premier state, and he's running for re-election. He deserves our support and he get will get it. Any petty political beefs you may have with Governor Cuomo can be discussed privately, not in a public forum.

I have great respect for Andrew's father Mario Cuomo, and I realize that it may be a reason for my tolerance of the son's straying from the fold. However in this year of all years - party unity is the ultimate goal.



 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
162. Cuomo is in a contested Democratic primary and is fair game for criticism.
Sun Aug 12, 2018, 12:03 AM
Aug 2018

You write, " Any petty political beefs you may have with Governor Cuomo can be discussed privately, not in a public forum." You are welcome to present that proposed rule change to the DU admins. Until then, I am free to post criticisms of Cuomo -- and, yes, you're free to dismiss them as "petty political beefs" if you want. Both positions are within the bounds of permissible disagreement on this forum.

I can understand your bias toward Cuomo because of respect for his father. In my case it works the other way. The sadness that this apple fell so far from the tree probably makes me even more negative about him than I otherwise would be.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
71. There are a few rthings that would let them do that.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 11:46 AM
Aug 2018

One is if collins moves out of state. He has homes in florida and.. somewhere else..

i think a couple other scenarios also.. i'm no expert ..

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
54. DEMOCRAT NATE MCMURRAY, long shot candidate
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 11:13 AM
Aug 2018

who now has a shot. Unfortunately, he's not a strong candidate. He has experience as a city manager but doesn't live in the district. In fact, the state party asked him not to run but to leave the field open for Cuomo's lieutenant governor to be the long shot against Collins. He ran anyway, and the national and state Democratic parties declined to divert funds and other resources from more promising races to his.

Now suddenly the seat's in play, and Nate McMurray, of necessity, is the Democratic Party's man. Three days ago he had 4 campaign volunteers and something over $100K in donations, and now the money's pouring in and I'm guessing volunteers too.

Roll Call: "Collins’ Challenger: We Raised More This Morning Than ‘In the Whole Race’"


pangaia

(24,324 posts)
85. Hortensis,,, I live here and am a Nate volunteer.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 12:10 PM
Aug 2018

All I can say is that your comments, while I am SURE are honest and, in many ways "factual," do not describe the reality. You do not know what is really going on here...

Just for one thing, three days ago there were already hundreds of 'volunteeers.' depending on how one describes a volunteer. The 'four volunteer', (and I think Nate actually said something like that) is very misleading when taken out of context.

-The whole Cuomo thing was just political games,, as usual.
- He tried to pressure Hochul into running AS a sacrificial lamb, by the way.. She refused to take the bait.
-Actually, Nate STOOD UP to the political pressure-and he is a far better candidate than the others who were running
- the 'doesn't live in the district' also doesn't tell the whole story...
- Nate is the candidate "of necessity' Oh no, he has been running and fighting since january with basically no money...

--it sound to me like your comments are based on media articles and such...."from a distance."

I've met him several times, attended campaign events, walked in parades, seen him in action and this guy is a really strong candidate ! he is the real deal..... And I say that not even necessarily agreeing 100% with what he says.......

Anyway.. sounds like I am ragging on you.. which I am not...

I've been, in the past, the subject of TOO MANY newspaper articles, interviews, reviews etc. not to know how much reporters and writers do not know about a subject... and when reality is pared cdown to bullet points... it disappears into a fog.

Will he win? If I didn't think he could, I wouldn't put my little money behind him and help him as I can....

That said.. Nate DOES NEED $$$$$$$$$$






Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
98. Thank you, Pangaia. I hate that Roll Call and Mother Jones
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 12:31 PM
Aug 2018

present pictures so different from yours, but you recognized 100% accurately how I got my "information." I know how unfortunately common this can be from being a person on the scene myself and hoped what little they wrote was better than it turns out to be.

But I love that you think our candidate's the real thing. And that the new hope and energy aren't the beginning but building on what was already there.

Btw, I definitely noticed that both media, and a couple others I checked briefly, gave almost no attention to who he is and what he would bring to the office. The dominant theme I remember was developed around complaints that the DCCC and state party wouldn't return his calls when he wanted to run, give him money, didn't care about his candidacy, etc.

And, btw, I'd figured out right away that you were informing, not ragging. So thanks again. Good fortune to Nate and your district, in both meanings.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
118. Thanks, Hortensis...
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 01:03 PM
Aug 2018

I was at a presser on Fri am in Rochester- this was the first time he was in front of so many cameras, maybe one a day earlier in Buffalo.. It was nice to see.

Funny how a terrible car accident, plane crash, huge fire, flood, WAR, can bring out the media.... they just gulp it in like they are short of breath. Without it, they don't know what to do.

Like leaches, sometimes.......

The guy has been driving all over the district in his "Fusion," as he likes to say. :&gt )

I first met him in a parade on July 4th. I had never heard of him until about a week before.

I met his 2 main campaign guys-- who both, look like they have no clue what they are doing and sound like it, too. LOL !! Amateurs, really.. But, damn, they DO know !!!! Now he needs more professional help. And I think he knows how to be his own boss.

He is of the people, that is for sure.

Cheers--

and GO MUCKDOGS !!!!!!!










Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
123. How exciting for you guys. :)
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 02:21 PM
Aug 2018

The Buffalo News published a list of possible Collins replacements, but the names of course mean nothing to me. It seems the suspended campaign has probably been taken off life support.

Go, Nate! And of course the Muckdogs.


NBachers

(16,999 posts)
165. Here's a link to send him $$$$$$ - I just made a contribution -
Sun Aug 12, 2018, 01:07 AM
Aug 2018
https://secure.actblue.com/donate/nate-mcmurray-1

It looks like teabagger shithead Carl Paladino (Я - tool) is going to try & grab Collins' seat - so let's pile on the donations, and burn Paladino's ass.

https://www.wgrz.com/article/news/paladino-announces-bid-for-collins-district-seat/71-582981064

FakeNoose

(32,331 posts)
120. This scenario demonstrates how gerrymandering helps the incumbent candidates
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 01:08 PM
Aug 2018

The Democratic Party didn't want to waste their resources running against Chris Collins. That's how they feel about every GOP incumbent in a gerrymandered district. WTF?! Why doesn't the DNC just lie down and die then? If we aren't giving the Repugs any opposition, we should just crown them all incumbents for life.

The Democratic Party has to be better than this. We need new, younger candidates who aren't afraid and are willing to try. The old guard should just retire and get out of the way. Give voters a choice, show them that it doesn't have to be the same old tired, rich white men every time.

Put up a fight in every district, and be sure to support the Dem. candidates who do exactly that!
Nate McMurray deserves the support of the entire Democratic Party.

Gothmog

(143,998 posts)
107. It may be impossible to remove Collins from the ballot
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 12:53 PM
Aug 2018

Tom DeLay tried this in 2006 and the county party sued and kept the GOP from replacing him https://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/chris-collins-suspends-campaign

Removing Collins’ name from the ballot would be extremely difficult under New York State law. According to a spokesman for the state Board of Elections, the three avenues to removing a name from the ballot are: if the candidate dies; does not meet the basic requirements for candidacy like minimum age and residency in the state; or runs for another office and declines the nomination for the first office that candidate was seeking.

SergeStorms

(18,882 posts)
56. Spot on!
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 11:18 AM
Aug 2018

He knows there's no way out of the greedy, deep hole he dug for himself. And he used to brag about how many millionaires he created in the Buffalo area. And now it's all going away. This makes me happier than a buzzard on a shit wagon, as they used to say around here.

lapfog_1

(29,166 posts)
81. "I am hoping for a Presidential pardon"
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 11:55 AM
Aug 2018

and that there won't be any non-federal charges filed.

Otherwise my forwarding address for my retirement is going to be

General Delivery
Chris Collins
Inmate 873N-63921
United States Penitentiary Leavenworth
1300 Metropolitan Ave, Leavenworth, KS 66048

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
14. Stop blaming Democrats for your own greed and corruption!
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 10:20 AM
Aug 2018

Do any republicans have any decency at all? He couldn't just resign in a respectable manner. He had to take the opportunity to blame Democrats and drag them through the mud. These people are all such victims and whiners. They never take responsibility for anything!

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
79. Decent Republicans refused to back Trump...
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 11:53 AM
Aug 2018

Shitheels like CC backed him first. There ARE still decent Republicans out there, but not this clown.

PCIntern

(25,342 posts)
26. You're not kidding....
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 10:37 AM
Aug 2018

It’s as though an army of Rethuglican Haters signed on all at the same time. I thought I knew how to hate. Some of these folks are pros!!! Good for them!!

MineralMan

(146,190 posts)
21. Well, That Didn't Take Long.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 10:33 AM
Aug 2018

I wonder if there is time for another Republican to get on the November ballot for that seat. Does anyone know? If not, welcome to another flipped district in NY-27.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
88. yes, it is possible.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 12:15 PM
Aug 2018

I'm no expert. but at least one way is if he moves out of state. and he does have 2 other homes one in florida and another on Pluto... just kidding.. but somewhere...

MineralMan

(146,190 posts)
94. Yes, I learned that shortly after writing.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 12:21 PM
Aug 2018

So, I suppose there will be a replacement candidate. However, perhaps this scandal will be enough to lower Republican turnout and give Democrats a chance for a win. It's an almost impossible district, though, so the replacement will probably have quite a good chance of winning.

Too bad. I was hoping there wasn't time to replace the candidate.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
96. I live here and volunteer for Nate.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 12:29 PM
Aug 2018

It won't be easy to win here because, while it is beautiful, it is full of stupid "commie lovers,' if you get my drift.
But he has been working hard since January... and he is a good, highly intelligent, well-read and traveled guy.

I wouldn't spend my time for him if I didn't think he could win..


Oh, BTW he needs $$$$$$$$$$






MineralMan

(146,190 posts)
99. Well, I don't have any $$$$, so I'll just offer my best wishes for
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 12:32 PM
Aug 2018

his campaign. We have tough races to try to win here in MN, too. Everyone will need some luck, supplemented by hard work. Thanks for yours!

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
106. Ah, MM , you're the greatest....
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 12:52 PM
Aug 2018

SOME DAY I WILL get to a SAINTS game !!!!!!!!!

It's on my bucket list.


Gothmog

(143,998 posts)
111. In 2006, Tom DeLay won the GOP primary and tried to get off the ballot
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 12:56 PM
Aug 2018

The Democratic party sued and kept the GOP from replacing him. We won a heavily gerrymandered seat in 2006 that we kept until 2008. NY law appears to be similar in that you have to die or move out of the district to get off the ballot

MineralMan

(146,190 posts)
113. Well, apparently, it would be easy for Collins to "move out"
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 12:58 PM
Aug 2018

of the district, since he owns homes in other places. I suspect he'll do just that, technically, and the GOP will select a candidate to appear on the ballot. There is still an opportunity there, I think, to flip that seat, even if only temporarily.

The crooked nature of Republicans sometimes gets them in trouble, it seems.

Gothmog

(143,998 posts)
117. I wonder if there will be litigation
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 01:03 PM
Aug 2018

Again, we sued in 2006 and force the GOP to run a write in candidate. It was Juanita Jean's husband who pushed that lawsuit and got a good litigator to take it.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
119. Now it is looking like the RNC may have him run for .. TOWN CLERK !!!!!!!!!!
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 01:05 PM
Aug 2018

To get him off the ballet...

Not 100% sure if that is true yet.

But.... what a hoot !!!

ooky

(8,885 posts)
23. Forced out
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 10:36 AM
Aug 2018

Republicans trying to save the seat and get him off the ballot while they still have time to do so.

Collins is on the fast track to Prison.

blogslut

(37,955 posts)
29. Nice attempt at deflection there, Chris.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 10:40 AM
Aug 2018

Who wants to bet he announces he's quitting his current job within two weeks?

Jersey Devil

(9,863 posts)
32. Forgive my skepticism, but that isn't exactly a "retirement" announcement
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 10:43 AM
Aug 2018

He says he is going to "suspend" his campaign and will finish up his term. He says nothing about taking his name off the ballot, rejecting his party's nomination for Congress or not taking part in the election. He is in a district that is extremely safe for a Republican. So is he quitting or is he just going to go through the elections without campaigning at all?

Cosmocat

(14,543 posts)
46. This was my thought
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 11:00 AM
Aug 2018

This was my thought.

If he stays on the ballot, gets elected, hes going to just retire?

Jersey Devil

(9,863 posts)
51. Another article says he will give up the nomination (if he can)
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 11:08 AM
Aug 2018

Can't find the article right now, but it said the only way he would come off the ballot with someone else replacing him is if he is nominated for another political office (like local judge) or moves out of the jurisdiction (he owns homes in 2 other states). So he would likely have to say he is moving to open up the ballot slot. Let's see if he does that. But if he does "move", wouldn't that disqualify him from continuing to represent the district in Congress for the remainder of his current term?

H2O Man

(73,308 posts)
63. Right.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 11:26 AM
Aug 2018

My understanding is that the plan is to put him on the ballot for Town Clerk, allowing the republicans the ability to replace him on the ballot per congress.

LuckyLib

(6,814 posts)
36. The entire irrelevant first paragraph is the story of the Republican Party.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 10:50 AM
Aug 2018

Deny your own wrongdoing by blaming the Democrats. He can’t even step down with dignity.

FakeNoose

(32,331 posts)
109. I think it was the NY Repugs who demanded that he resign
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 12:55 PM
Aug 2018

The NY-RNC probably wrote this resignation letter for him to give out.

Stands to reason, they know they'll lose the seat if they don't get a viable candidate in there quickly.
I'm sure Collins' lawyers agree, they probably talked him into resigning.

True Blue American

(17,972 posts)
41. Lol! Retiring?
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 10:54 AM
Aug 2018

Trumps first supporter in Congress,indicted.

Wonder when they are going to catch Nunes?

One of his Constituents flied Charges against him because he claims to be a 👩?🌾 on his Campaign papers. Then there are the Russian investors.

magicarpet

(13,935 posts)
47. Wait,... wait,... don't go,... don't you have some juicy stock tips to...
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 11:02 AM
Aug 2018

.... share with us before you depart.

We were hoping you could make us millionaires too - like you claimed you did for your family and your buddies with insider stock trading info.

Spread the greed you crook.

SergeStorms

(18,882 posts)
48. Another crooked commie lover bites the dust!
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 11:05 AM
Aug 2018

It really seems odd writing that, because we Democrats have been accused of being the 'commie lovers' since I started voting in the late 60s. Damn.......I'm getting old!

Collins's "retirement" is all the more sweet because he's in the Congressional district right next to ours. It's a heavily gerrymandered district as well. I'd dearly love to see a Democrat in that seat come January of next year!

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
89. Hey... THAT'S IT.. We call repubs COMMIE LOVERS !!!!!!!!
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 12:17 PM
Aug 2018


Great idea...

THAT oughtta confuse the rabble


arthritisR_US

(7,269 posts)
50. Interesting, I think at this late date the rethugs won't have enough
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 11:06 AM
Aug 2018

time to put another candidate on the ballot.

Brother Buzz

(36,212 posts)
69. They can, if, weird as it sounds, he remains on the ballot for another office
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 11:45 AM
Aug 2018

Last edited Sat Aug 11, 2018, 12:32 PM - Edit history (1)

Sounds cockamamie, and I may have misread it the other day, but if the pubs can get another candidate to bail (say dog catcher), and he fills it, they can appoint his replacement. Sound hinkey to me.

I expect some clarification real soon.

Edited to add this:

Under New York state election law, Collins' name could be taken off the ballot under certain narrowly defined circumstances that include death or being nominated for a different office.

Jessica Proud, a spokeswoman for the New York state Republican Party, said party officials are weighing their options. She said no decision has been made about a possible replacement for Collins on the ballot — if they are able to replace him.


http://m.startribune.com/index.php/facing-indictment-gop-rep-chris-collins-stepping-down/490630751/

Strelnikov_

(7,772 posts)
59. That's too bad
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 11:23 AM
Aug 2018

He would' have been another liability for the GOP in the midterms.

Most likely, a talk was had and a suitcase full of cash passed to 'clarify' his thinking.

Sancho

(9,065 posts)
62. Trump will probably appoint him Sec. of Treasury or something...
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 11:26 AM
Aug 2018

There are not enough jails for all these crooks!

Hugin

(32,776 posts)
72. There may be a need for a new Commerce Secretary soon.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 11:47 AM
Aug 2018

Collins was pushing pennies compared to Ross.

or maybe the FEC.

Soooo many possibilities.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
64. Retiring due to criminal charges, and uses his statement to bash Dems
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 11:32 AM
Aug 2018

Typical Repuke that can't take "personal responsibility"

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
65. "Retiring", right. Collins is full of unmitigated bull crap...
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 11:35 AM
Aug 2018

and is fooling no one but himself and his soulless Cretin leader.
We know it.
He knows it.
Anyone with a handful of brain cells or a thimble full of maturity knows it.
Coward, criminal, lying-assed conman.
A congressional Republican.

calimary

(80,693 posts)
161. Great post!
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 11:33 PM
Aug 2018

They're all wonderful on this thread but this one still sticks out. And I suspect it's true, too.

turbinetree

(24,632 posts)
76. He had this drug scheme going on for over a year and we the taxpayers were paying his
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 11:51 AM
Aug 2018

bills to the tune of over $223,000 a year, while he was chairman of the most powerful committee in Congress, and he was bilking the taxpayers on the lawn of congressional picnic ---- fuck that --------------I want that money back, and I want him to lose his benefits.................other people that have been charged lose a lot of things, ...................what the fuck makes him so fucking special..........................he's not fucking special........................and by the way fuck due process................he didn't care about due process ...................he was in to it to make a fucking buck...............and rip off the taxpayers.............

Some sorry ass excuse that after talking with family members, you were talking with family members using your power in Congress to make fucking millions with them helping you and then you had five other congressional elected official and a just like that fucking HHS Secretary who was also involved in the fucking scheme ............. correct.....
here are the names (see below)..................................FUCK YOU


"Among the company’s investors were Collins’ daughter, Caitlin, his son, Cameron, and Rep.s Tom Price, the former Health and Human Services secretary who previously represented Georgia, Mike Conaway of Texas, Doug Lamborn of Colorado, Billy Long of Missouri and Markwayne Mullin of Oklahoma, the Daily Beast reported last year."





November 2018 cannot get here fast enough..............

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
92. YAY !! YES !!!!!!!!!!!
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 12:21 PM
Aug 2018

Of course, I live here and have skin in the game.. LOL

But so does all of america.



Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
136. Just saw Nate on national TV.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 05:25 PM
Aug 2018

More of that bad journalism, but if it helps elect another Democrat in a red district...

calimary

(80,693 posts)
157. Love it!
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 10:09 PM
Aug 2018

Sometimes karma IS fun. Especially when it involves standing to the side and watching the heads roll down the hall (memories of local radio when the new ratings didn’t turn out as expected)!

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
115. Damn that Nancy Pelosi, making it impossible for Chris to stay in office because she'd Impeach DT...
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 01:00 PM
Aug 2018

Gothmog

(143,998 posts)
116. It may be difficult to replace Collins on the ballot
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 01:01 PM
Aug 2018

Tom DeLay tried this in 2006. The party sued and kept the GOP from replacing DeLay on the ballot. NY law is a great deal like the Texas law https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/11/chris-collins-reelection-bid-insider-trading-773514

Under New York law, Collins’ name can be supplanted on the ballot at this stage of the cycle only if he dies, moves out of state or is nominated for another office — like a local judgeship. According to Erie County GOP Chairman Nick Langworthy, the exact mechanisms are still being worked out, but he noted Collins owns houses in Florida and Washington, D.C.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
128. My guess, he moves out of state.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 03:09 PM
Aug 2018

Hopefully to an area that contains the federal prison that he is going to.

LiberalFighter

(50,485 posts)
121. He spent most of his life in private.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 01:15 PM
Aug 2018

Hopefully, they penalize him by terminating any ownership of stock that were illegally purchased. I'm guessing he has done this before being elected.

WhiteTara

(29,676 posts)
127. He's going to spend more time
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 03:08 PM
Aug 2018

with his lawyers. His wife will probably leave since he's disgraced and going to be broke.

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
131. He'll probably only spend less than a year in jail,
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 03:45 PM
Aug 2018

and in a comfortable jail at that! He’s worth something like $100 million so I think he’ll be just fine

tavernier

(12,322 posts)
158. Wait a minute! Isn't that what Pelosi went to jail for?
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 10:11 PM
Aug 2018

NOOOOO... Come to think of it, she did not break the law...
YOU DID!!! So shut your trap and have some respect for the decent citizens of this country.

klook

(12,134 posts)
138. Love this reply from @adamcbest --
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 06:01 PM
Aug 2018
Unless Nancy Pelosi and Democrats held you at gunpoint and made you do insider trading, keep their names out of your mouth and take accountability. Has a Republican ever admitted to doing something wrong? Here’s us waiting for that to happen...

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
143. Joke of jokes...
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 08:36 PM
Aug 2018

The delusional deplorables swallow up anything their Nazi leaders throw at them. Let's hope the good people of NY 27 are smarter than that.

meow2u3

(24,743 posts)
151. Good riddance to criminal rubbish
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 09:46 PM
Aug 2018

While you're at it, Chris, don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya. May you receive your commeuppance very soon.

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
156. it is good he is retiring? WTF did his hillary paragraph have anything to do with it
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 10:08 PM
Aug 2018

Did Hillary make him do criminal things?

tavernier

(12,322 posts)
159. Yes, Hillary has amazing powers.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 10:15 PM
Aug 2018

She makes them all lie and cheat and steal and blame it on others when they are caught. That is why they all want to get rid of her.

edbermac

(15,919 posts)
166. What was his wife doing there?
Sun Aug 12, 2018, 04:25 AM
Aug 2018

Nice wave! She looks like Pat Nixon during Tricky Dick’s Checkers speech.


marble falls

(56,358 posts)
168. Retiring from gray pinstripes to black and white horizontal stripes: enjoy your ...
Sun Aug 12, 2018, 09:23 AM
Aug 2018

"retirement", thieving asshat.

Gothmog

(143,998 posts)
171. Dems say they'll sue to keep Collins on ballot
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 08:05 PM
Aug 2018

In 2006, Texas Democrats sued to keep the GOP from replacing Tom DeLay and were successful. It is time to file another lawsuit http://thehill.com/homenews/house/401825-dems-say-theyll-sue-to-keep-collins-on-ballot

Democrats are threatening to take the GOP to court to keep Rep. Chris Collins (R-N.Y.), who’s been charged with insider trading, on the November ballot.

New York Democrats believe they have a better shot of flipping the red, Buffalo-area seat if the embattled congressman’s name stays on the ballot, and they want to keep Republicans from replacing him with a potentially less toxic candidate.

“Our contention and a lot of people’s contention is this is fraudulent to get him off the ballot,” Erie County Democratic Party Chairman Jeremy Zellner told The Hill on Tuesday.

“This is borderline fraud,” Zellner added. “It is too late to get him off the ballot.”
Federal officials last week arrested and charged Collins with securities fraud related to his involvement with an Australian pharmaceuticals company, giving Democrats hope they could win a GOP-held seat that wasn't even on campaign officials’ radar days ago.

In 2016, Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton in the western New York district by nearly 25 percentage points.
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