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Thu Aug 9, 2018, 10:46 PM

The HUGE scandal.

This scandal is so huge that nobody knows how far it reaches?

From Vladimir Putin to numerous Russian oligarchs to Paul Manafort and Rick Gates.

From Donald Trump to Wilbur Ross, to the numerous banks in the islands.

From Don Jr to Ivanka to Jared Kushner to Michael Cohen.

From the NRA to Mitch McConnell to Paul Ryan to Devin Nunes.

From Erik Prince to George Nader to Saudi Arabia to the U.A.E.

From Michael Flynn to Rex Tillerson to Carter Page to Russian oil executives.

From Moscow to New York to Istanbul to Cyprus.

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kentuck Aug 9 OP
ProudLib72 Aug 9 #1
spanone Aug 9 #2
Garrett78 Aug 9 #9
Pluvious Aug 10 #45
Generic Brad Aug 10 #50
NRaleighLiberal Aug 9 #3
Grasswire2 Aug 9 #4
bluecollar2 Aug 10 #31
machoneman Aug 10 #42
Pluvious Aug 10 #46
Haggis for Breakfast Aug 10 #49
bluestarone Aug 9 #5
Hamlette Aug 10 #18
triron Aug 10 #22
Hamlette Aug 10 #24
erronis Aug 10 #41
Mr.Bill Aug 9 #6
George II Aug 9 #7
mr_lebowski Aug 10 #28
lastlib Aug 9 #8
BadgerMom Aug 9 #13
Hamlette Aug 10 #23
mr_lebowski Aug 10 #30
Hamlette Aug 10 #32
mr_lebowski Aug 10 #33
olegramps Aug 10 #40
Amaryllis Aug 9 #10
DemocracyMouse Aug 9 #11
Eyeball_Kid Aug 10 #38
DURHAM D Aug 9 #12
BadgerMom Aug 10 #15
Farmergene Aug 10 #16
Farmergene Aug 10 #17
Eyeball_Kid Aug 10 #39
oasis Aug 10 #19
Kurt V. Aug 10 #47
KY_EnviroGuy Aug 10 #14
oasis Aug 10 #20
ucrdem Aug 10 #21
Brother Buzz Aug 10 #25
DuckBurp Aug 10 #26
milestogo Aug 10 #27
Hugin Aug 10 #29
MFM008 Aug 10 #34
AZ8theist Aug 10 #35
Botany Aug 10 #36
mahatmakanejeeves Aug 10 #37
barbtries Aug 10 #43
calimary Aug 10 #44
Uncle Joe Aug 10 #48
Snackshack Aug 10 #51
elias7 Aug 10 #52
Initech Aug 10 #53

Response to kentuck (Original post)

Thu Aug 9, 2018, 10:49 PM

1. From the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli

We will make all sorts of scandals
On the land and on the sea

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Thu Aug 9, 2018, 10:51 PM

2. this will take decades to unravel and prosecute

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Response to spanone (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 9, 2018, 11:25 PM

9. The problem with that is people will become numb to it.

I also expect the investigation to take a long time, as it's far more complex than previous investigations that lasted several years. I've seen suggestions that Mueller will submit a final report this year, and I have no clue where that idea came from.

As more and more bits of information become known in the coming years, I worry that most people will stop caring.

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Response to spanone (Reply #2)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 12:47 PM

45. Think of the challenge for the screenplay writers !!

This is way more than Oliver Stone alone can handle.

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Response to Pluvious (Reply #45)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 07:25 PM

50. That Putin apologist?

He could be in on it too for all we know.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Thu Aug 9, 2018, 10:51 PM

3. I suspect it is huge, involves loads of people, and has been in the works for a long long time

The biggest issue is that so many can't accept or conceive of things like this.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Thu Aug 9, 2018, 10:59 PM

4. Maybe we ought to start a pool on how many with ties to Trump will be indicted before it's over.

Whaddya think?

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Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #4)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 01:17 AM

31. Sounds good

Pool could include indictments, convictions, by party, industry, country etc...

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Response to bluecollar2 (Reply #31)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 10:59 AM

42. Based upon all the details so far, I see HUNDREDS of indictments....

and years of further investigations, indictments, jury trials and convictions. Luckily, the millions and millions of $ the Republiscums will need to spend in defense of the indefensible means a massive diversion of cash away from campaigns.

I forsee Federal-level House and Senate indictments, State-level House and Senate and Governor indictments, WH staff and maybe even Cabinet staff indictments. I also suspect bankers, lobbyists, campaign staff and other miscreants will be indicted as well.

I say: LOCK THEM UP!!!!!!

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Response to machoneman (Reply #42)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 12:48 PM

46. Lordy !! What a job creator (for lawyers) !! nt.

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Response to machoneman (Reply #42)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 06:09 PM

49. And hopefully,

It will also lead to hundred of laws - with razor sharp teeth - being passed that prohibit what we are enduring today, starting with a law that says that NO president will ever be able to negate/obstruct/deny/disobey them. Nor allow a Congress to just lie down while their spines and balls are being removed and refuse to hold anyone to the law.

I will NEVER forget trump standing at the podium, being told that he must place his businesses, holdings, ownerships in trust (or some other legal detachment) while he is in the WH, at which point he replied, "Make me."

Get this in your head, Spanky, NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW, STARTING WITH YOU.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Thu Aug 9, 2018, 11:03 PM

5. And possibly to our supreme court?

SCARY TIMES AHEAD!! (especially if we do not succeed this NOV.)

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #5)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 12:20 AM

18. no, if we don't succeed in Nov. it will be buried. n/t

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Response to Hamlette (Reply #18)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 12:41 AM

22. So not scary?

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Response to triron (Reply #22)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 12:49 AM

24. we survived Iran Contra, and making up a war in Iraq.

it goes back so far it depresses me to think about it (I'm still mad about our overturning the government of Iraq and installing the Shah and don't get me started on South America)

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Response to Hamlette (Reply #24)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 10:10 AM

41. I agree that we should have constrained Iraq (Saddam Hussein) and should not of overthrown the gov't

of Iran, Mossaddegh but those two countries and events are different.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Thu Aug 9, 2018, 11:12 PM

6. The list of charges will look

like a phone book.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Thu Aug 9, 2018, 11:17 PM

7. For some reason I thought this was going to be about a tan suit.

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Response to George II (Reply #7)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 01:09 AM

28. I was sure it was a secret meeting ... out on the Tarmac (nt)

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Thu Aug 9, 2018, 11:20 PM

8. Thank God Rick Perry was too stupid to get in on the action......

Donald tRumpsky is running a crime ring from the White House. He and Putin and his entire administration are all partners in crime.

I still think there is a tie-in to that big Rosneft stock deal in December 2016. That's too much money hidden in too many layers of secrecy to be ignored as just a coincidence.

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Response to lastlib (Reply #8)

Thu Aug 9, 2018, 11:57 PM

13. I agree.

When people wonder what Putin possibly could have on him, I always think of the Rosneft deal. The pee tape, if it exists, wouldn’t scare that horn dog Trump. The loss of the Rosneft money? Now, that’s motivation—for the whole grifting family.

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Response to lastlib (Reply #8)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 12:46 AM

23. what's the Rosneft stock deal?

I googled it but can't find it. . .

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Response to Hamlette (Reply #23)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 01:14 AM

30. If you've never read this one, I know it's long, but I'm convinced it's STAGGERINGLY

important, on so many levels. Here you'll learn about the aforementioned Rosneft stock deal and a lot of Carter Page history you almost surely don't know unless you've read this very article.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/02/03/carter-page-nunes-memo-216934

Rosneft 'deal' is about 2/3 of the way down the article.

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Response to mr_lebowski (Reply #30)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 02:33 AM

32. thanks, I'll get on it in the morning.

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Response to Hamlette (Reply #32)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 03:00 AM

33. np ... and you'll probably be as floored as I was that there's ANY question

as to why those FISA warrants were granted for surveillance on Page.

It also perfectly illustrates how EXACTLY right the FBI were to be tailing this mofo ... and therefore by extension how full of shit Trump, Nunes, etc ARE ... trying to claim this was some kind of wrongful 'spying' act ... Page absolutely brought that shit on himself, period.

Enjoy ... as it were

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Response to mr_lebowski (Reply #30)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 09:47 AM

40. Thanks. I read it. It confirms that he is a really stupid patsy. A useful idiot at best.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Thu Aug 9, 2018, 11:30 PM

10. Trump will get his desire for superlatives at last. He will be the subject of the most bigly

documentary maxiseries ever on TV, documenting corruption that spans continents. "THe Rise and Fall of the Biggliest Con in Recorded History."

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Response to Amaryllis (Reply #10)

Thu Aug 9, 2018, 11:49 PM

11. The Rise and Fall of a Spoiled Brat: Richie Rich Grows Fat and Cruel

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Response to DemocracyMouse (Reply #11)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 09:26 AM

38. Not a story of Trumpy "evolving" into

cruel monster. He always has been cruel and sadistic. And he’s always had money to buy his way out of accountability.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Thu Aug 9, 2018, 11:52 PM

12. and twice today on MSNBC I have heard

references to the "scandal" at the Clinton Foundation as if it is (1) a fact and (2) equal in size and depth.

Can someone please explain to me when the Clinton Foundation became a part of the federal government, thus funded by our taxes and please tell me what the horrible scandal is/was. I missed it.

One of the people making the comparison was, of course, Chuck Todd.


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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #12)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 12:07 AM

15. I heard that, too.

I wanted to reach through the car radio and throttle him. (Sorry. Sorta violent.) He spoke of investigating or calling out Trump and followed up with something about how that would trigger comparisons to the Clinton Foundation. WHAT?!? Why in God’s name would anyone bring up the Clintons at this point? Only Chuck Todd, Maggie Haberman and the Fox trolls would compare Trump and the Clintons now. Sheesh!

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Response to Farmergene (Reply #16)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 12:16 AM

17. And

The mindless masses aka trumpies are sooo pissed at Hillary for "selling our uranium to Russia"

But really? Never mind the uranium. The Repubs sold our entire Democracy to the Ruskies. Go figure.

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Response to Farmergene (Reply #17)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 09:30 AM

39. False story from the get-go.

Russia never got a milligram of uranium from the US. They invested in a business that mined uranium, a deal that was approved by multiple agencies concerned about national security.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #12)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 12:35 AM

19. Walter Issacson and Chuck Todd are truly "fake" journalists.

Real journalists do research and get their facts straight. In the case of the Clinton Foundation, the facts surrounding the right wing manufactured scandal can be easily accessed.

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Response to oasis (Reply #19)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 12:54 PM

47. +1000

They're worthless

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 12:04 AM

14. Finally. The world-wide web of political corruption exposed.

The public is finally getting a little peek at the rotten underbelly of our plutocratic political system. It will take years I suspect just to investigate and document all the malfeasance, and then let the indictments and trials begin.

The plutocrats and their minions will fight this investigation with every fiber in them and with every dollar they can spare.

Republicans will soon start funding private-operated cushy prisons with putting greens to house all their ranks......

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 12:36 AM

20. Corruption AND treason. nt

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 12:40 AM

21. Which one?

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 12:50 AM

25. And EVERY republican congress critter has a finger in the pie

You just know it!

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 12:52 AM

26. I think that's why Mueller is taking so long.

The more he looks, the more he sees. (In addition to being extremely thorough in his work.)

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 12:52 AM

27. Its a MASSIVE INTERNATIONAL RIGGED WITCH HUNT!

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 01:11 AM

29. Understandably, you forgot the owners of the HUGE right wing media monopoly...

like Rupert Murdoch and Sinclair broadcasting.

Somehow, they're managing to avoid scrutiny, but, their presence is felt by each of us daily and almost hourly. Also, without them none of the rest of the empire would have been possible.

Vast right wing conspiracy, indeed.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 05:06 AM

34. Huge octopus

Of ugliness.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 08:54 AM

35. and you forgot one.....

From Republican to Republican to Republican to Republican to Republican to
Republican to Republican to Republican to Republican to Republican to
Republican to Republican to Republican to Republican to Republican to
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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 09:19 AM

37. Congratulations on hitting 88,000 posts.

Don't reply! It will break the spell.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 11:20 AM

43. Hillary was right all along.

All along. a vast right wing conspiracy.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 12:08 PM

44. This is THE reason why we CANNOT afford to get tired, frustrated, and give up.

We must NEVER give up seeking full and complete justice. For ALL these fiends!

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 04:19 PM

48. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread kentuck

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 09:04 PM

51. They are using

The 2008 Wall St. playbook but instead of “too big to fail” they are shooting for “too big to prosecute.”

Hopefully it won’t work.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 09:29 PM

52. We shouldn't omit...

Data laundering - alfa bank server<>trump tower server<>Devos' insurance company server

The Cambridge Analytica /SCL data packaging - Parscale, Kushner

The Weiner laptop and Comey announcement - Guiliani, Prince, Trumplandia (NY FBI)



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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 10:15 PM

53. The entire party was in on it.

Every fucking last one of them had a grudge against Hillary and Obama, and the only way to take them down was if they go all in. The Democrats had the sure thing with a straight flush, the republicans all conspired and somehow wound up with the royal flush.

They can't win if they can't cheat and that is what Mueller is going to find out.

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