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Sun Aug 5, 2018, 12:32 PM

Presidential Indictment

There is disagreement as to whether or not a president can be indicted.

Consider this FICTIONAL scenario:

Don and Melanie have an argument over the TV remote. Mel digs in her six inch fuck me pumps. Don get's angrier and angrier as Hannity's show progresses and he's yelling back and forth at Mel instead of listening.

He grabs a gun from somewhere. Let's say the Secret Service guy who is trying to defuse the situation. In front of the SS guy, his body man, her aide, a butler, and others, he shoots Mel in her abdomen. LOTS of medical help responds.

How can he NOT be indicted for assault if not attempted murder?





Conspiring with Russia to stage a coup in the US is MUCH worse than some old guy shooting his third trophy wife.





Nixon's was a cheesy burglary, and for Dick, it was the coverup, not the actual crime. Red Don is a RUSSIAN ASSET.

I say he CAN be indicted. He, in fact, MUST be indicted.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Sun Aug 5, 2018, 12:35 PM

1. I agree with you, and you can come up with even worse scenarios

He came up with one himself. He could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue. Well what if he did? The law can do nothing because 40% of the people won't care?

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Sun Aug 5, 2018, 12:38 PM

2. I wondered about that also if he murders someone can he be arrested for that murder?

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Sun Aug 5, 2018, 12:40 PM

3. You are confusing arrest with indictment. You can be indicted and still be free...

to walk the streets, you can be arrested in jail and not be indicted.

The Secret Service doesn't indict people they can and do place them into custody and/or arrest them.

If a President went crazy and started randomly stabbing people I'm sure the Secret Service would place him into
custody, but whether he could be indicted is a matter for the courts.

I don't agree with the argument that a sitting President can't be indicted, but that is the current official position of the Justice department, see: https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/olc/opinions/2000/10/31/op-olc-v024-p0222_0.pdf


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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #3)

Sun Aug 5, 2018, 01:41 PM

5. Yeah but we've never had a traitor as POTUS before.

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Response to triron (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 5, 2018, 02:00 PM

8. Also note that even if indicted that doesn't remove him from the Presidency...

only impeachment or invocation of the 25th amendment does that.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Sun Aug 5, 2018, 01:37 PM

4. IMO, the real reason DOJ has that policy

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DOJ doesn't want to get involved with the political fallout from indicting a sitting President.

Trump should be and must be indicted:

1. Nobody is above the law. Republicans made that abundantly clear when they impeached Clinton over a blowjob.

2. There is a Vice-President that can assume duties if the indicted President is hindered in any way in carrying out any presidential duties.

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Response to Quemado (Reply #4)

Sun Aug 5, 2018, 01:42 PM

6. But I hope Pence is indicted as well. Then I guess it's the Speaker.

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Response to triron (Reply #6)

Sun Aug 5, 2018, 02:07 PM

9. Only if they were both impeached and convicted by the Senate

Assuming that the President can be indicted, that alone doesn't remove him from office.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Sun Aug 5, 2018, 01:58 PM

7. I agree

I think they already know they can be indicted , and have others floating it can't for pr, and projection more than anything, and i do think trump will be indicted , and for many, many crimes.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Sun Aug 5, 2018, 02:14 PM

10. There MUST be consequences for his words and actions.

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