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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo who tried to kill the President of Venezuela?
Does this shot ever stop?
Farmer-Rick
(10,153 posts)He wanted to invade them. He never gives up on a Bad idea. Killer drones are just so USA (and failure is so Trump) and he has a line item in the budget that funds Venezuelian opposition.....a built in slush fund so to speak for murdering annoying socialists.
Our tax dollars at work.
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)You do understand that these were off the shelf , high end consumer drones while the US military essentially uses remote control airplanes for its missions?
They are completely different kinds of aircraft.
Farmer-Rick
(10,153 posts)Is just going to waste. And all of Traitor Trump's talk of invasion and the obvious failure that is the hallmark of Traitor Trump is of no importance. They use of off the shelf crap is the
Info that matters?
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Thanks for saving me the time.
MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)wouldn't the use of known US military drones be a little obvious? I would think if it was a covert op, it wouldn't have been advertised with a predator firing hellfire missiles.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)that wouldn't have missed.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Last edited Sun Aug 5, 2018, 08:18 PM - Edit history (1)
If a US agency was after that guy, as public as he is, he would be dead. He is not al quida hiding in some remote place surrounded by a like minded population. He puts on presentations among people that Both love him and hate him.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)If the CIA was after him, they may make it look local, but they would have been more sophisticated that flying C4 loaded crop dusting drone at him in a big crowd.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)as if drones were such special sophisticated tech. The fact is that if it was us, as you said, it might have looked low tech, but it would have worked and not crashed two blocks away.
The other point is, no, drones are not that special. Anyone can buy them.
House of Roberts
(5,168 posts)Very crude by today's standards. (courtesy of Torchwood Institute)
Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)dalton99a
(81,433 posts)tammywammy
(26,582 posts)Probably a Venezuelan.
superpatriotman
(6,247 posts)The lists of suspects is thousands long.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,988 posts)Charred windows were seen near the place where President Maduro was speaking
From the BBC report:
Speaking on condition of anonymity, three of them said the incident was actually a gas tank explosion inside an apartment, but did not provide further details, the news agency says.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-45073385
dalton99a
(81,433 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)So do you think this was set up by Maduro as a way from him to arrest opposition under false charges?
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,988 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,634 posts)Igel
(35,296 posts)That includes perceived crises.
So if somebody tried to kill him, it's perceived as a crisis and action will be taken.
So if it's a false flag operation, it's perceived as a crisis and action will be taken.
So if it's just random loud noises in the background, it's perceived as a crisis and action will be taken.
It's the follow-up that differs.
If it's an assassination attempt, it'll for sure be the Venezuelan opposition with help from "the Americans" (perhaps you, perhaps me, perhaps Kushner, but "the Americans" . Or somebody in Maduro's inner circle that he wants gone ... Who, of course, will have helped the people from the Venezuelan opposition with help from the Americans.
If it's false flag, then framing the innocent and justifying the guilty will be among the actions. Those charged will, of course, be opposition Venezuelans with help from the Americans. Perhaps somebody in Maduro's inner circle, yada-yada.
If it's random loud noises, then making sure that the perception is maintained by suppressing the truth is among the actions. And those charged will, of course, be opposition Venezuelans with help from the Americans. Or perhaps somebody in Maduro's inner circle, whatever.
Either way, with this kind of government now that it's billed as an assassination attempt that is the Truth, whatever actually happened; and if anything to the contrary gets reported, then the governmental Truth-in-media commission that was set up will get involved.
malaise
(268,890 posts)One of the drones crashed into the building. Three military persons were seriously injured.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,988 posts)malaise
(268,890 posts)I don't blow smoke but I am always aware and wary of Western propaganda.
FreeState
(10,570 posts)But the military managed to knock one of the drones off-course electronically and the other crashed into apartment building two blocks away from where Maduro was speaking to the hundreds of troops, Reverol said.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,988 posts)obnoxiousdrunk
(2,909 posts)DFW
(54,335 posts)There are enough in his corrupt crowd to take his place. If anyone intends to do him deadly harm, it's more likely to be the guy standing next to him applauding him at every staged rally, but really just waiting to take his place.
My bet is that the local fire department got it right.
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)Drumming up support from the Chavistas for his failed regime
JI7
(89,244 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)My guess is on Venezuelan dissidents. Probably bought the tech on Amazon.
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)This is what sometimes happens when an unliked dictator reviews his military parade...just sayin'.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)from the reports, the drones in Venezuela carried 1 kilo of C4.
Edited to add: The agro drones at the bottom of that page can carry a 10kg payload and fly for 10 minutes with that load.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Has built in radar and tech that alters flight according to terrain. Carries the 10+KG payload, meant for crop spraying but can of course be pretty much anything.
justhanginon
(3,289 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)dhol82
(9,352 posts)Nice way to energize the populace to talk about assassination attempts.
hack89
(39,171 posts)I am sure the list of potential suspects is very long.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Its a low-rent Reichstag fire staged to attempt to garner support for Maduro.