This factory fired two Mexicans and the rest of them decided to leave with em

[tenderfoot]

...best part of this video is the commentary

Link to tweet

The narrator was fired... but...

“I’m not mad about getting fired. Because it’s five million people who saw that. And it might change their view on things. Empowering people.

So me losing a job is nothing compared to the big picture. If we can get it in our heads that we are the people, we can change anything.”

https://jacobinmag.com/2018/08/wildcat-strike-indianapolis-shut-down

[oasis]

1. Shut it down. How do you like us now, baby?

so long sucker!

[jberryhill]

2. What factory?

[tenderfoot]

3. Read the linked article

eom

[jberryhill]

5. No factory identified in the article either

The facility is not a factory. It is a construction site for a future UPS hub.

[tenderfoot]

7. That must mean this never took place.

[jberryhill]

10. I was curious because the video did not seem to show a factory

I'm not in the habit of accepting everything that comes in on Twitter as necessarily being "as advertised". It didn't look much like a factory, so I asked. Turns out, it was a construction site. I have this odd fetish for facts. Sorry that my question offended you.

[tenderfoot]

11. So they didn't really walk off the job because it was just a construction site?

Got it.

[jberryhill]

12. Stop lying about what I asked

[tenderfoot]

14. It was construction site not a factory!

This video FAKE

[jberryhill]

17. I did not say the video is fake

I looked at the video and thought "gee, that's a peculiar looking factory".

If your mission in life is to mischaracterize and bully people who are on the same side of the political fence as you are, then you are doing a very good job of it.

[More_Cowbell]

26. There's nothing wrong with trying to fill in information that wasn't included

That act shouldn't be seen as trying to disprove the video. (Which you certainly didn't do.)

[erronis]

33. I'm in agreement with jberryhill. Get enough of the facts straight when posting, and provide

credible backup information. It's a pity that so many people need to dig into these articles when they should be presented in the OP. And it's a pity that many people just go on the title and some video without caring about the accuracy.

Not saying I don't make mistakes - I do more than most. But rather than getting into a "I said/you said" argument correct/amend the OP. Unless your goal is to waste DUer's time.

[lunatica]

27. Really?

You can’t just acknowledge you made a simple mistake and then just correct it? Everyone makes mistakes.

[dalton99a]

4. Kudos to Antoine Dangerfield

They’re real mad about it. They tried to pay me $250 to take it down. But there’s nothing I could do about it. I didn’t expect it to be this big.

There was a safety guy. He was just a racist, basically — always messing with anybody who’s not white. The Hispanics just stayed out of his way. They warned each other when he came because they knew he was always messing with them, taking pictures and videos, trying to get them fired.

[Blue_true]

8. He has a great skill, some company that is forward thinking and worker oriented will hire him.

If I were he, I would pack up the kid and his mom and move back to California.

[cwydro]

39. Yeah, a company is going to hire someone who can't complete a sentence

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without two or three n-words in each.

[juxtaposed]

46. It's hire not hie. And he could get a job almost anywhere.

[cwydro]

54. Lol. Hate when I miss typos!

But no. He couldn’t.

[juxtaposed]

55. I'd hire him

[lapfog_1]

53. mf! n! shut this mf down n

If the narrator is black... I have no problem with his choice of words... I wish no one would ever use the N word (in either the "er" version used by whites or the "a" version sometimes used by black people) again. That said, it would not affect my decision to hire or not hire someone for a construction job.

[tblue37]

60. He is black. (I read the interview with him and that is mentioned.) nt

[lapfog_1]

65. I assume that this was the case

but I hate to assume (ass - u - me) anything.

[Blue_true]

76. His job does not require completing a sentence. It involves fucking knowing how to weld. nt

[lunasun]

6. Workers Unite!

[DemocracyMouse]

22. Yes, unite. And we'll do it faster if the video narrator spoke with more conviction

Some of the delivery was hilarious and highly motivating, but after awhile I sensed an insecure young man using a comedian as a role model rather than a contemporary Cesar Chavez.

Or maybe the comedic voice got the meme rolling???

Whatever it takes. Glad the video was made.

[lunasun]

24. He was filming as it happened it was not a planned video so I am guessing he went through

many emotions and reactions to what he was witnessing as he documented it. He was not involved in the walkout or leading or organizing it .
He is black and got fired for posting the video of what went down on line

https://yt3.ggpht.com/a-/ACSszfGZ_AjCHLDdrX20nLvVgzZm1Usw-6WCMnmKyQ=s900-mo-c-c0xffffffff-rj-k-no

[oberliner]

9. Jacobin Mag?

[tenderfoot]

13. They're the ones that chose to interview him.

Would you prefer the Daily Mail, NY Post, Fox, Breitbart, Gateway Pundit?

[oberliner]

15. All those sources you listed are awful

Jacobin Mag, though, I went over there and they have an article trashing Joe Biden on the front page.

[tenderfoot]

16. Spare me your feigned outrage

No one here trashes Democrats as much as you do.

[oberliner]

18. I'm not outraged

Just seemed like a weird source to use.

Speaking of Democrats, what are your feelings about Kirsten Gillibrand?

[tenderfoot]

19. Don't like her as much as you do.

And don't have to.

[oberliner]

25. Jump into this thread and share your positive thoughts about Gillibrand

She is certainly a Democrat worth admiring, don't you agree?

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100210958685

[pazzyanne]

20. You really need to ask?

[juxtaposed]

48. so the video is fake and this didn't happen?

[Kingofalldems]

30. Boom! See: Al Franken

[stonecutter357]

31. wow!

[druidity33]

77. unabashedly Socialist...

and i have no problem with that. At least they're honest about where they are coming from. Have you checked out their site? It's not bad... a bit "academic" but otherwise a pretty good view of the contemporary socialist narrative.

[cp]

21. Powerful solidarity

Kudos to Antoine Dangerfield for filming and all the workers who stopped taking shit. Bravo!

[forgotmylogin]

44. We could all stand to learn from devoted and proud Latino coworkers/neighbors. (n/t)

[louis c]

23. Union Anyone?

[HAB911]

28. Exactly what we need to if Trump fires ANYONE

IN DOJ

[Laffy Kat]

29. That's solidarity! Yay! nt

[Equinox Moon]

32. This looks suspicious, and more like a fabricated video.

[ismnotwasm]

34. I went and followed the guy, I think it's legit.

[jberryhill]

36. The story explains more detail

The OP mistakenly refers to the site as a "factory" which, no, it doesn't look much like one.

According to the linked story, it was a construction site for a UPS sorting facility (which it looks a lot more like), which is why the floors are clean and devoid of any evidence of manufacturing going on. But that's why it looks brand spanking new and has all of those conveyors and whatnot. Once you get that part, the scene makes more sense.

According to the story, the Latino workers are all employees of one of the subcontractors who weren't getting along well with the site safety officer, who had asked if any of them would translate for him. The site safety officer booted two of the workers for that subcontractor, so the rest of that subcontractor's crew left.

[cwydro]

40. Thank you. So basically this is another fake non-story here on DU.

Getting tiresome.

[Hortensis]

52. Collective action by workers walking in protest is a non-story?

Okay. but I note you have 3 posts on this tiresome OP. So far.

Have you considered taking up a nice hobby instead, one that doesn't irritate you with this kind of nonsense?

[Devil Child]

59. Worker solidarity and collective action is apparently very concerning for some here... n/t

[Hortensis]

61. And pride in their conviction apparently tiresome?

Actually, conviction in the rightness and worth of democratic actions is what Russia works very hard to destroy. Perhaps these "Mexicans" (?!) are underexposed to RT and other pernicious social media sources.

[cwydro]

68. If you read what jberryhill posted, you'll see that

just didn’t happen.

I hate seeing fake crap on DU. I also understand how badly people want to believe stories like this.

But we’re supposed to be the critical thinkers, are we not?

I’m flattered that you count my posts lol, and fear not, I have many hobbies. None of which involve counting other posters’ posts.

[Hortensis]

70. No, from what I understand, the trumpsters

are the critical thinkers and we here at DU are fools and agents of evil.

[Blue_Adept]

66. If you find it a non-story then you may belong on a different site

[erronis]

35. Fabricated. There will be more of these trying to get DUers to get hot about fake news.

This causes us to waste our energy and sows doubt on our solidarity and mission.

[tenderfoot]

37. Can you post a link proving that it's fabricated?

Thanks in advance.

[jberryhill]

38. This link here

https://jacobinmag.com/2018/08/wildcat-strike-indianapolis-shut-down

The video is genuine. However, the article accompanying the video explains that it was not a factory, and nobody was fired.

The workers seen leaving are employees of a subcontractor at a UPS facility under construction. So, no, it is not a factory. Two of that subcontractor's workers were ordered off the site by the site safety officer. So, no, nobody was "fired" in the first place. In response, the rest of that subcontractor's workers left the site.

My guess would be that the subcontractor is likely a Hispanic owned and operated business in the first place, which is why that entire subcontractor's crew didn't have a problem walking. In all likelihood, they are likely still employed by that subcontractor, since the site safety officer wouldn't have the ability to fire them.

So:

Fake part: "Factory workers fired"

Real part: "Subcontracting crew leaves construction site after conflict with construction site safety officer."

[juxtaposed]

50. Does it really matter if they were building a factory or a ups hub?

[jberryhill]

58. Let's make it a space station then

A subcontractor pulled its crew off of a job because of conflicts with the site safety officer. That's not a labor action, it's a contract dispute.

[juxtaposed]

63. This is unusual for non-union workers to do. I've only seen it happen once before about 12 years ago

Wildcat strike. industrial relations. Wildcat strike, work stoppage undertaken by employees without the consent of their respective unions. Such strikes are not necessarily illegal, but they often violate terms of a collective bargaining agreement

A wildcat strike action, often referred to as a wildcat strike, is a strike action undertaken by unionized workers without union leadership's authorization, support, or approval; this is sometimes termed an unofficial industrial

Spontaneous or unannounced illegal industrial action by a section of employees, without following the proper procedure for striking such as majority approval through a union ballot. In such situations, the employer usually has the legal right to fire the offending workers and to sue the union for damages. Also called outlaw strike or quickie strike.

Read more: http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/wildcat-strike.html

[jberryhill]

71. A subcontractor pulled his crew

The comments here about "management" have nothing to do with what happened here.

Subcontractors quit jobs every day. This is not a "section of employees" and they are not protesting their "employer".

The people in the video - if you read the interview by the guy who MADE the video - are all employees of a subcontractor at a construction site. They are not employed by UPS. They are not employed by the primary contractor. That subcontractor pulled its crew off the site out of circumstances arising from a pissing match with the site safety officer.

A subcontractor pulling its crew off a job and saying "We're outta here" is not a labor action of any kind.

[juxtaposed]

72. You're not very familiar with construction and how a big job works. The GC subs most

if not all work. The GC may have one primary sub for mechanical who self preforms most of the work in their craft and my sub parts of that out.

[jberryhill]

73. That doesn't make the subs "employees" of the GC

Quite obviously, the entire crew of one of the subs left because of conflict with the site safety officer. That's not a labor action.

[juxtaposed]

74. you're not very familiar with labor issues union or non-union and how one works.

[jberryhill]

75. Their boss said "we're leaving"

They are not protesting their employer. This is a subcontractor pulling out. You can make all the personal commentary you'd like, but these employees did what their employer told them to do - leave.

I will also bet you five bucks that their company is majority minority owned, which is why they weren't taking any crap as an organization.

These are employees doing what their employer told them to do.

If you are interested, this is the project in question:

https://www.inddist.com/news/2017/06/ups-smart-logistics-network-expand-new-indianapolis-hub

[cwydro]

69. I love this!

Space station walkout!

[tblue37]

64. The guy making the video did get fired--because of the video. nt

[KayF]

79. so how do you square the difference

between your version and Dangerfield's?

I agree a single perspective is not enough to know what happened, and I've emailed a business reporter at Indianapolis Star asking them to report on it. But in the meantime Dangerfield is the only source for what happened.

I find him to be credible. He was there, for one thing.

You are asserting things with great confidence that you can't possibly know. How can you feel so sure about it?

[jberryhill]

80. The link is to Dangerfield's interview

What “difference”?

“Tuesday, he says that a small number of Latino workers (millwrights, welders, and conveyor installers, in his telling) working for a different contractor but in the same hub were ordered home after disobeying the orders of a white boss he calls racist.

In response, the entire group of workers — over a hundred, in Dangerfield’s estimation — walked out.”

[charliea]

41. Like your avatar!

This happened in my home city, and I find it entirely believable. If someone wants to say it's fabricated then they should, as you say, show some proof.

[Devil Child]

42. Solidarity!

A viral video showing a wildcat strike in action is a powerful message to workers to take action in the moment.

[cwydro]

47. Except it wasn't.

[Devil Child]

56. A group of workers took action (walkoff) on their own accord without consulting union or management

Seems to me like a definition of a wildcat strike.

[pecosbob]

43. "Slavery was never abolished, it was only extended to include all the colors."

-Charles Bukowski (thanks to Charles Chu for the reminder).

[MontanaMama]

45. The WH press corp

should take a lesson. Solidarity. Shut down SHS.

[pangaia]

49. I can NOT believe y'all yelling at each other about this POST !!!

Makes it sound like the ruskies are winnin.'

[juxtaposed]

51. It makes one wonder who's on who's side. Sad shit to see on DU.

[Blue_Adept]

67. We're in pre-election mode, which means like we saw in 2015 and 2016... the plants are rising

[jberryhill]

78. One simple way

Is to simply look up the track record of persons who post using their real name:

https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?name=John+berryhill&cycle=&state=DE&zip=&employ=&cand=

[edhopper]

57. Can CNN hire Antoine Dangerfield

to do the evening News?
I would love to hear him describe a Trump rally.

[Generic Other]

62. The narrator should get a job from the union

His enthusiasm for direct action warms my heart!