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SunsetDreams

(8,571 posts)
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 11:23 AM Aug 2012

Missouri GOP Picks Guy Who Thinks Medicare Is Unconstitutional For U.S. Senate

Yesterday, Missouri Republicans selected Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO) as their candidate to oppose Sen. Claire McCaskill’s (D-MO) bid for reelection. Akin, who like nearly every Republican in Congress voted for Rep. Paul Ryan’s (R-WI) plan to phase out Medicare, is a staunch opponent of Medicare in general. Indeed, he told a Tea Party group last year that he believes the program is unconstitutional:

U.S. Rep. Todd Akin said he has doubts about the constitutionality of Medicare and thinks global warming “is highly suspect.” [...]

Akin’s remarks questioning the constitutionality of Medicare came as he was explaining his vote against prescription coverage under the medical plan for seniors and people with disabilities. He said it was too expensive, and “it was expanding an entitlement I wasn’t too comfortable with to begin with.”

Asked about the remarks after the meeting, Akin said, “I don’t find in the Constitution that it is the job of the government to provide health care.”


http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/08/08/656071/missouri-gop-picks-guy-who-thinks-medicare-is-unconstitutional-for-us-senate/

I'm sure this will go over well

Thanks Ruby the Liberal

Will someone please give these GOP Idiots a history lesson?

But there’s a major problem with this line of argument: It just isn’t true. The founding fathers, it turns out, passed several mandates of their own. In 1790, the very first Congress—which incidentally included 20 framers—passed a law that included a mandate: namely, a requirement that ship owners buy medical insurance for their seamen. This law was then signed by another framer: President George Washington. That’s right, the father of our country had no difficulty imposing a health insurance mandate.


http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/102620/individual-mandate-history-affordable-care-act
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Missouri GOP Picks Guy Who Thinks Medicare Is Unconstitutional For U.S. Senate (Original Post) SunsetDreams Aug 2012 OP
(swallows hard) SUPPORT CLAIRE McCASKILL! librechik Aug 2012 #1
Someone send this illiterate buffoon this snippet, please? Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #2
Nice find! SunsetDreams Aug 2012 #4
Please do. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #6
Thanks SunsetDreams Aug 2012 #7
They pretend to know the Constitution just like they pretend to know the Bible. LiberalFighter Aug 2012 #12
If he says that Medicare is unconstitutional then he would have to say the same for Social Security. LiberalFighter Aug 2012 #3
Next up the CDC and then comes NASA. grantcart Aug 2012 #5
Cool, looks like McCaskill will get the senior vote then. cbdo2007 Aug 2012 #8
So his logic says PatSeg Aug 2012 #9
Oh really? RC Aug 2012 #10
Thinks "Promote the General Welfare" only applied to Gen. George Washington. kiranon Aug 2012 #11

librechik

(30,674 posts)
1. (swallows hard) SUPPORT CLAIRE McCASKILL!
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 11:28 AM
Aug 2012

please Dems, don't blow this one, even tho McCaskill is red state wishywashy. Don't let another Teaper inside the club room. They poop in the punchbowl.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
2. Someone send this illiterate buffoon this snippet, please?
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 11:34 AM
Aug 2012
But there’s a major problem with this line of argument: It just isn’t true. The founding fathers, it turns out, passed several mandates of their own. In 1790, the very first Congress—which incidentally included 20 framers—passed a law that included a mandate: namely, a requirement that ship owners buy medical insurance for their seamen. This law was then signed by another framer: President George Washington. That’s right, the father of our country had no difficulty imposing a health insurance mandate.


http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/102620/individual-mandate-history-affordable-care-act

SunsetDreams

(8,571 posts)
7. Thanks
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 11:54 AM
Aug 2012

I've added it. I don't think it's so much ignorance, I think they hope their supporters and the American public will be ignorant enough to take their word as the Gospel.

LiberalFighter

(50,864 posts)
12. They pretend to know the Constitution just like they pretend to know the Bible.
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 01:38 PM
Aug 2012

They have read neither but are experts.

PatSeg

(47,384 posts)
9. So his logic says
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 12:08 PM
Aug 2012

anything he can't find in the constitution is thereby "unconstitutional". The possibilities are endless.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
10. Oh really?
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 12:30 PM
Aug 2012
Asked about the remarks after the meeting, Akin said, “I don’t find in the Constitution that it is the job of the government to provide health care.”



Try reading this part of the US Constitution!

Preamble to the Constitution of the United States of America:
"We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

Section 8.
"The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and PROVIDE FOR THE common defense and GENERAL WELFARE of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;..."


Twice in our Constitution it mentions "general welfare" What constitutes 'General Welfare'?
The old-age benefits provisions of the Social Security Act of 1935 is an example of providing for the 'general welfare'. Medicaid/Medicare are 2 more examples of providing for the 'general welfare'.
Government controlled, Single Payer, Universal health care for the people of the United States IS covered by the Constitution, because the relative health of our citizens does affect the general welfare of the Nation. 45,000 dead people a year are proof the profit driven, privately run systems we have in place now are not working to provide the necessary health care for our nation.
How can our present private health insurance system, with its many insurance companies (each with its own way of doing things), its own highly paid management, its own attention to the bottom line for its share holders, its own claims requirements, its own forms for submitting claims, etc., be more efficient than any government controlled single Payer system, with its single set of rules and forms?

How is Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security NOT allowed by the Constitution? All those programs address the "general welfare" of "We the people..." mentioned in the Preamble to the US Constitution. "We the people..." are a part of the United States.

kiranon

(1,727 posts)
11. Thinks "Promote the General Welfare" only applied to Gen. George Washington.
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 01:19 PM
Aug 2012

Do not think tea partiers think beyond the words on a page. They do not seem to be able to make inferences or draw logical conclusions such as that "Promote the General Welfare" means the welfare of the people in the country and not a program to help generals to stay healthy.

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