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Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:56 AM

Are we on the brink of violent civil unrest?

It is still hard to believe what is going on in our country. Trump supporters are getting hurt by Trump and they are still with him. It is clear Trump is a major threat to our democracy and his voters can't even recognize it. That's unbelievable, and extremely dangerous.

This November, if the Republicans hold both the house and senate because of voter suppression, gerrymandering and Russian interference that will be proof we longer have a democracy. Voting will no longer matter because its rigged.

When Mueller ends his investigation, he brings forward absolute proof Trump committed major crimes and the Republicans refuse to act that will be proof we no longer have the rule of law. Trump will become more emboldened and he will grab more power.


If these two things happen what other options do the patriots of America have left? I have to be honest, I am becoming very worried this could spin out of control. I have said from the beginning Trumps presidency could only end one way, Badly. How badly is the question.

I am sure of this, if those two things happen the patriots of America will not take it laying down. They will rise up and fight back. They will not surrender America to Trump.

I hope no harm comes to any American. I don't want to see anybody killed, including Trump. I want Trump to go to prison. This seems like a moment in history where the American people have lost control and we are going to pay a big price.

I still believe Mueller will bring Trump down and save our democracy, but I have to admit nothing makes sense anymore. Up is down and down is up. Right is wrong and wrong is right. I need a drink.

Good luck everyone.

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Reply Are we on the brink of violent civil unrest? (Original post)
shockey80 Jul 2018 OP
brooklynite Jul 2018 #1
Chemisse Jul 2018 #2
Baitball Blogger Jul 2018 #3
MineralMan Jul 2018 #4
dalton99a Jul 2018 #5
Post removed Jul 2018 #6
Misterfer Jul 2018 #8
GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #7
onenote Jul 2018 #9
sarah FAILIN Jul 2018 #10
shockey80 Jul 2018 #11
Hortensis Jul 2018 #12
shockey80 Jul 2018 #13
Hekate Jul 2018 #16
Saboburns Jul 2018 #14
peggysue2 Jul 2018 #15
Hekate Jul 2018 #17
Initech Jul 2018 #18

Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:01 AM

1. Answer: no.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:05 AM

2. No. I don't know what the solution will be, but I don't think violence is the answer at all.

My idea of the worst case scenario involves secession of chunks of Blue America, or a split into 2 countries.

Of course Russia would like that; it would make us weaker.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:01 AM

3. Our side is not known for violence.

Beware when the Republican supporters get disenfranchised and begin to join our ranks. They are the ones that might use our peaceful protests to react violently. We'll get tagged for it.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:06 AM

4. Probably not. The Wackaloon Right is getting its way,

and the Left doesn't seem inclined to start things like that.

So, I doubt it.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:10 AM

5. No, because there is no parking space for either army

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Tue Jul 24, 2018, 01:58 PM

8. Who is we?

 

We going to strap on some guns like some RW Militia and wander the streets looking for a fight?

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:17 AM

7. Maybe if we win the house. Bet on it if we win the Senate

Because there will be a lot of religous nuts driven to violence if we arr able to halt his court picks.

Nothing organized. Just random attacks like we see in Europe with ISIS supporters.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 01:58 PM

9. Nope.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 02:03 PM

10. I'll put it like this, they are.

Many rep pages I look at now post about getting ready for civil war. It scares me. I think some of them might lose it in November if we win.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 02:18 PM

11. I am talking about protests turning violent, not about civil war, taking up arms. Keep it sane!

If our votes don't count, the rule of law is not upheld, protests could become violent.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 02:19 PM

12. No. Our nation is too diverse, too scattered

and too decentralized. Who's going to war against whom?

The closest we come is the south, but that's up to a third black, plus other POC, who aren't exactly going to go in on the idea of declaring a white nationalist state. Among other problems.

The big danger is that conservatives could form a majority with unhappy minor factions to vote to replace democracy with an authoritarian state. That's happened in a number of sham democracies, where only pretense of representative government continues.

Extremism is growing here on both right and left (though far larger numbers on the right), and polls show a willingness to discard democracy by people who are being outvoted by the majorities formed by mainstream factions. Not only many on the right but some on the left have demonstrated a willingness to set aside the vote in order to win. This is a grave sign that we must protect our democracy by rebuilding the large, working center that has always protected us against extremism.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 02:21 PM

13. I give up

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Response to shockey80 (Reply #13)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 05:17 PM

16. The problem here is: we have a small clacque actively promoting the idea of a military coup...

They think "the generals" will save us and restore our republic to democracy, all of history be damned. Some of them think civil war is a-comin', yee-haw.

I do not know if these people are just misguided DUers driven mad by Trump or if they are part of a troll army, but if you do an OP like this one, expect some or all of them to show up.

Personally, I think Trump has empowered racists, misogynists, and white nationalists to be loud and proud and plow their cars into crowds of peaceful protesters. To march with tiki torches without bothering with those old fashioned white hoods. So far we are not responding in kind. That is as far as I will go.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 02:47 PM

14. We should be

As we see Republicans destroy America.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 03:14 PM

15. No

This is what the alt-right is spinning and promoting. Just more provocation and churn to promote fear and anxiety throughout the electorate.

Unlike Russia, we are a Nation of laws, not men. The Rule of Law is our friend and eventually a successful congressional reset and the Rule of Law will sort this out.

And that is exactly what the Trumpsters fear.

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Response to peggysue2 (Reply #15)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 05:18 PM

17. What you said, peggysue

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 06:54 PM

18. It's already spinning out of control.

The Trump coup has already turned things upside down and inside out. It's maddening. We could be very well headed on that path.

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