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Thu Jul 19, 2018, 07:59 AM

Here's what's going to happen regarding Browder, McFaul, etc.

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1. Today I suspect the White House Press Department—but not Trump personally—will issue a brief statement saying of course they won’t extradite Ambassador McFaul to Russia for questioning.

2. In the next few days to weeks, certain Trump media synchophants—likely Sean Hannity—will start playing the Browder $40 million donation claim spewed out by Putin.

3. Eventually they will start working McFaul into the story as being a “member of the Obama Deep State” who aided and abetted.

4. Trump will start tweeting out about this story, first in generalities, but soon mentioning Browder and McFaul by name.

5. Essentially, Browder and McFaul will get the Peter Strzok treatment from Trump and will be labeled “enemies of the people” or something to that extent.

6. Even if this still isn’t enough to get support to turn Ambassador McFaul over to Russia, it will have poisoned his and Browder’s name to many gullible Americans

7. Trump will use this as ammunition as both Browder and McFaul are personally knowledgeable about certain facts in the Mueller investigation (See my post yesterday at: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210891514 and my follow up today at https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210896439)

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Reply Here's what's going to happen regarding Browder, McFaul, etc. (Original post)
Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2018 OP
ck4829 Jul 2018 #1
ck4829 Jul 2018 #2
progressoid Jul 2018 #17
PearliePoo2 Jul 2018 #3
Soxfan58 Jul 2018 #4
Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2018 #5
Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #30
DownriverDem Jul 2018 #22
Iliyah Jul 2018 #6
DownriverDem Jul 2018 #23
rainin Jul 2018 #7
Fred Sanders Jul 2018 #11
DownriverDem Jul 2018 #24
PearliePoo2 Jul 2018 #8
DownriverDem Jul 2018 #25
Scurrilous Jul 2018 #9
ScratchCat Jul 2018 #10
elmac Jul 2018 #14
DownriverDem Jul 2018 #26
Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #31
zentrum Jul 2018 #12
dalton99a Jul 2018 #15
DemocracyMouse Jul 2018 #27
bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #13
BSdetect Jul 2018 #16
C Moon Jul 2018 #18
joshcryer Jul 2018 #19
Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2018 #21
joshcryer Jul 2018 #28
Botany Jul 2018 #20
Liberal In Texas Jul 2018 #29
stopbush Jul 2018 #32
uponit7771 Jul 2018 #33
Amaryllis Jul 2018 #34

Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 08:01 AM

1. 40 million? I thought it was 400 million?

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Response to ck4829 (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 08:02 AM

2. Or was it 400 thousand?

All things said by Russians and right wingers.

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Response to ck4829 (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 10:35 AM

17. 4000 Brazillian.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 08:05 AM

3. Gulp!




K&R

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 08:09 AM

4. Lets hope its just their name that gets poisoned

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Response to Soxfan58 (Reply #4)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 08:14 AM

5. As I said yesterday, McFaul is a much bigger witness than virtually anyone knows right now

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 11:47 AM

30. Good breakdown Pisan.

Ty.

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Response to Soxfan58 (Reply #4)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 11:02 AM

22. Or maybe

trump's White House staff will threaten to resign like they did to make trump come out and clarify his putin/russia statements about the Nov 2016 election.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 08:14 AM

6. t-rump want to treat his

opponents like Putin treats his. The thing is, turn about is fair play. Everything these ugly Americans, GOPs have done will come back and bite them hard. They seriously need to stop and smell some flowers.

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Response to Iliyah (Reply #6)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 11:03 AM

23. Been waiting

I've been waiting since reagan for the repubs to get paid back.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 08:21 AM

7. Well done. It is really important we expose this playbook until it's obvious to everyone.

They are running a few plays over and over a. We're Charlie Brown to their Lucy. It will keep working until we get their game.

If your post doesn't get to the top, I hope you will repost again as a reminder. Education is the anecdote to their poison.

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Response to rainin (Reply #7)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 10:21 AM

11. We? What can we do before election days if the mass media refuses to out the propaganda

spewing forth so clearly every day from this WH? And that Fox is Trump state media? Isn't that FACT newsworthy? Should be the most newsworthy story in a decade...but, crickets.

Ever hear the word even mentioned by the Big Three even as it slaps them in the face every day?

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #11)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 11:05 AM

24. Encourage

folks to watch Rachel on MSNBC at 9:00 pm EDT. She has a big following and connects the dots Monday through Friday.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 08:27 AM

8. McFaul said he already has attorneys.


He said if it's necessary, he will depend on a judge to eventually rule in his favor.

I'm scared for this man, really scared. I'm scared for our country!

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Response to PearliePoo2 (Reply #8)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 11:07 AM

25. Me too

I wake up every morning wondering what trump has tweeted or done. I fear that we won't win big in November.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 08:31 AM

9. K&R

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 08:38 AM

10. This is the easiest

path to impeachment and this idea will be shut down quickly. Seriously. You'll be able to count on one hand the GOP nutjobs who would get behind him on this. The bulk of the GOP would begrudgingly come around to the truth that he is under Putin's sway if they go any further talking about this.

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Response to ScratchCat (Reply #10)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 10:31 AM

14. Well, in tRumps own words

 

"I Could Stand In the Middle Of Fifth Avenue And Shoot Somebody And I Wouldn't Lose Any Voters" Now, change the last part to "and the GOP wouldn't impeach me" .Fascists are in control, they will sell us out to the highest bidder, even if its putin, and the dumbasses who voted for them could care less.

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Response to ScratchCat (Reply #10)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 11:08 AM

26. I think

they already have come to the conclusion that trump is putin's puppet. But the repubs in DC will do nothing to stop trump. They are afraid of trump and his cult followers. All they care about is winning their coming elections.

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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #26)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 11:52 AM

31. Don't be afraid. Dale Carnegie has an answer for worriers.

Dale Carnegie once wrote a book called. "How to Stop Worrying and Start Living." In it, one persons message was..."If you fear a result, or something will happen, ASSUME that result will happen on a date certain (Nov 6th 2018?) and do everything in your power to NOT let that result happen" When you feel scared...get some signs in your lawn. Say no to coffee. Go for a walk. BE supportive. Help read a book to seniors at a home. Lots to do to stop worrying. That book was SUCH a great eye opener for me. Keep your chin up.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 10:29 AM

12. Very astute.

Tweet it to Maddow.

And other media types who might want to immunize the country against this sequence---as much as possible anyway.

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Response to zentrum (Reply #12)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 10:32 AM

15. +1

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Response to zentrum (Reply #12)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 11:09 AM

27. Yes, clarify and upload to MSM staffers. Repeat.

Eventually a staffer or two in the MSM will realize the strategies used by Fox/Trump/Putin (ENEMIES OF DEMOCRACY AND THE CONSTITUTION) and start STATING it as such.

"Today, using a strategy he and Donald Trump used during the 2016 election, Fox Entertainment* host Sean Hannity repeated a statement originally put forward by the anti-democratic Russian oligarch, Vladimir Putin."**

*Fox has stated in court, in order to deflect lawsuits, that it is entertainment and opinion, not news. Never call it Fox News kids. Never.

**As a self-appointed leader who jails and kills his adversaries, it is more salient to tie Putin to the word "oligarch" than to "president."

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 10:30 AM

13. Divide and conquer Donnie is a high risk speculator, gambler

he has limited public opinion upside at this point, and he continues to firebomb the intelligence community. This can only go on so long. It's a paranoid 'everyone is against me' mindset. The American people will not accept Putin as his character witness.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 10:34 AM

16. They churn out BS delivered by russian psych ops.

All part of their vast game.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 10:40 AM

18. He promised his boss. It will happen. And there will be no repercussions, as usual.

Then we move on to the next chapter of losing our republic.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 10:43 AM

19. Putin wants Browder dead.

You left out that part of how this ends.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #19)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 10:57 AM

21. That's very true.

And unfortunately, as Browder is in the UK and there's already a track record of Russian covert assassinations/attempted assassinations in the UK, it's a legitimate concern.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #21)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 11:18 AM

28. The UK needs to protect him ala secret service.

He's the final piece to this whole shitfest. Putin is so triggered by this guy he mentions him by name these days. If Browder winds up committing suicide with two gunshots to the back of his head, you'll know what happened.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 10:46 AM

20. So "the deep state" turned out to be real after all.

And it was and still is Vlad Putin, the GRU, Donald Trump and Company, Mitch McConnell,
Paul Ryan, the Mercers, the Koch Brothers, Fox News, the 7 GOP senators who went to Russia,
Devin Nunes, Dana Rohrabacher, and all those GOP congresspersons who held those non stop
and unneeded hearings into nothing about HRC.


https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142113507


President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia had personally ordered complex cyberattacks to sway the 2016 American election. The evidence included texts and emails from Russian military officers and information gleaned from a top-secret source close to Mr. Putin, who had described to the C.I.A. how the Kremlin decided to execute its campaign of hacking and disinformation.

"disinformation" = HRC's and her email server.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 11:36 AM

29. Sounds likely.

Especially with this gang of Nazis we're having to suffer these days.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 12:17 PM

32. What's important to note is that, yes, this strategiy will be rolled out

in mere DAYS, weeks, at tops. That’s because with tRump, every newsday feels like a month in pre-tRump newstime. A strategy that in the past would take months to roll out to give it a sense of happening organically - rather than on a planned schedule - is now initiated on Monday and brought to conclusion on Friday.

Rs don’t waste any time at all getting their ploys into the political dialogue.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 02:20 PM

33. K&R

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 08:45 PM

34. Browder and McFaul have been all over the cable shows today and both present extremely well

and very credibly.

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