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Siwsan

(26,177 posts)
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 07:44 AM Jul 2018

It would be a waste of time to demand trump* reveal what was said in that private meeting

He's a compulsive liar. Nothing he says is credible. The only people who know what was agreed to, or surrendered, are trump*, Putin, and whoever hears the audio that was secretly recorded.

And, let's face it. If the CIA had 'wired' trump*, he no doubt would have pulled the wire the instant the door was closed.

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kentuck

(110,950 posts)
1. Mueller could subpoena him and put him under oath.
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 07:45 AM
Jul 2018

And ask him directly about what was discussed behind the closed doors??

Siwsan

(26,177 posts)
2. He'd not hesitate to lie under oath. His only priority is his 'brand'.
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 07:50 AM
Jul 2018

He's lied in depositions and he brags about the lying. He's never been held to account, so he is convinced that none of the rules apply to him.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
3. nope - he needs to be put on record
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 07:54 AM
Jul 2018

Remember what lead to the Clinton impeachment - lying to congress and obstruction of justice.

Siwsan

(26,177 posts)
4. He's NOT going to be honest so what is the purpose of putting lies on record?
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 07:58 AM
Jul 2018

There is no way to prove or disprove the validity of anything he might say, unless Russia would release the tape. And then how confident would you be that what the are releasing is unedited?

I truly believe that there is no way we can ever know what was said, what was agreed to and what was surrendered.

And let me add, I am far from confident, even if we COULD prove he's lying, that the GOP would do anything about it.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
7. he needs to be put on record -anything coming out later can be explained away IF HE IS NOT ON RECORD
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 08:19 AM
Jul 2018

Siwsan

(26,177 posts)
9. You have more faith in the current system than do I
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 08:25 AM
Jul 2018

To explain my take on the situation: I'm alone in a room with someone and I am leveraged to agree to "Plan A". But we tell everyone we talked about the weather. Plan A never came up. We are the only two who know what was said (except for the easily edited tape of the conversation.)

So, how do you absolutely prove I agreed to Plan A? And that's the argument a good portion of the GOP will use to not take up impeachment.

If the lies are proved AFTER trump* leaves office, the same amount of nothing will happen.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
13. didn't say I had faith in the system - but no one knows what will come out in the future
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 08:41 AM
Jul 2018

I can not state with certainty that something will surface . . . but I cannot state with certainty that it won't. I vote for putting his comments on record. What can be lost by doing so?

Sure I anticipate him lying. He lies 6.5 times per day based per fact checking.

Putin was there - probably recording the two hours. A translator was there - and likely to be questioned.

Who knows . . . not you or I.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
14. Don't count on those translators.
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 12:24 PM
Jul 2018

It's quite possible they're an endangered species with a short life span.

Siwsan

(26,177 posts)
6. But will it be the original recording, or something edited for the occasion?
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 08:03 AM
Jul 2018

We have a perfect storm going on with the two people in that meeting. Neither has an honest bone in their body. One is likely going to lie to cover his ass, the other will lie to protect and further his plans.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
11. If I was Putin, I would already have my audio experts
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 08:26 AM
Jul 2018

working on it, especially if I knew I was dealing with a doofus..

dalton99a

(81,073 posts)
8. It's fair to assume financial arrangements were discussed with the Supreme Russian Mob Boss
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 08:23 AM
Jul 2018

Which Trump will guard as zealously as his tax returns

Siwsan

(26,177 posts)
10. At the very least
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 08:25 AM
Jul 2018

It boggles my mind that something couldn't be done to prevent this from happening.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
12. MSMBC reports Putin almost certainly recorded that 'private meeting'
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 08:28 AM
Jul 2018

and could use that, and a ton of other trump stuff, if they choose to

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