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onecaliberal

(32,471 posts)
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 12:15 PM Jul 2018

I don't know who styles Melanie, but they need to be fired.

For someone who supposedly was a model. (I guess she wasn’t really modeling clothes) she always looks hideous. The yellow dress, now this suit to meet the queen is terrible. She has zero sense of style.

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I don't know who styles Melanie, but they need to be fired. (Original Post) onecaliberal Jul 2018 OP
Her clothes often don't fit quite right. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #1
I concur, everything is ill fitted for the reason you stated but it's more than that. onecaliberal Jul 2018 #3
Everything about her is fake. Tatiana Jul 2018 #15
And the two of them together walking hand in hand thegoose Jul 2018 #27
Her yellow dinner frock looked like she was initating a super character, who could fly. vlyons Jul 2018 #28
It looked like a toga. Dulcinea Jul 2018 #94
Exactly. Polly Hennessey Jul 2018 #74
While she was getting her "kidney surgery" Rorey Jul 2018 #107
: onecaliberal Jul 2018 #135
Her "modeling career" didn't use too many clothes elfin Jul 2018 #2
: onecaliberal Jul 2018 #4
I disagree....they need to keep doing what they doing.. HipChick Jul 2018 #5
That was my first reaction.. Cha Jul 2018 #137
I like that dress. It conceals a lot of figure flaws. Bad taste to try to outshine the Queen, tho. calimary Jul 2018 #6
:) I don't think she has any figure flaws, but Hortensis Jul 2018 #26
Any figure flaws that she has have been corrected. greatauntoftriplets Jul 2018 #37
Shroud of Urine! geardaddy Jul 2018 #69
Boom! Kingofalldems Jul 2018 #86
Oh she definitely has no figure flaws. But that gown was inappropriate. calimary Jul 2018 #45
Hi Hortensis syringis Jul 2018 #89
I loved that shade of bright blue on the Queen vlyons Jul 2018 #32
Hi Vlyons syringis Jul 2018 #96
The hats serve the same purpose wonkwest Jul 2018 #42
She is hideous on the inside. NCTraveler Jul 2018 #7
The dress made me laugh but I think the suit is fine. Looks hot though. nolabear Jul 2018 #8
"Only mad dogs and Englishmen" wear too many clothes in the heat. Trump's not English. flor-de-jasmim Jul 2018 #12
I checked the London weather. greatauntoftriplets Jul 2018 #40
Is there a link to the pic of what she is wearing? CTyankee Jul 2018 #9
Here: highplainsdem Jul 2018 #13
That's kind of matronly and bulky for her MountCleaners Jul 2018 #18
The belt thows it off. Too harsh, skinny and jarringly dark. Also, it's a winter suit. haele Jul 2018 #34
I don't think her feet can go in flat or short heels. Kali Jul 2018 #38
The suit is better, more appropriate, but you're right about the belt. calimary Jul 2018 #50
She Tends To Wear RobinA Jul 2018 #73
She and Ivanka don't seem to get that large busts look great in bikini shots or porn films, but smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #80
I know this personally get the red out Jul 2018 #99
So do I. That's why I had a breast reduction a number of years ago and insurance paid for it smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #108
My sister had breast reduction as well get the red out Jul 2018 #109
Diana always wore low heels, at least til her divorce. calimary Jul 2018 #139
Her belts are always above her natural waistline. kskiska Jul 2018 #128
I agree with everything you have said. smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #77
The Queen doesn't look very happy in that photo, does she? mnhtnbb Jul 2018 #24
It's way too high-waisted for her figure (or for anyone's figure) LisaM Jul 2018 #30
Designers who don't design for the human figure shouldn't be a problem for Melania. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #35
That's probably true, but.... LisaM Jul 2018 #46
Which makes Melania's fake bosom look even more abnormal. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #48
if they were fake, the's be higher. east euro post baby age boobage. she needs a better bra. pansypoo53219 Jul 2018 #121
They probably were higher when she got them. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #122
Although I Love RobinA Jul 2018 #76
The Duchess of Cambridge is very long waisted and very slim. CottonBear Jul 2018 #134
I think she wears her clothes too tight. LisaM Jul 2018 #141
She wears a very tailored uniform of highly fitted bespoke clothing. CottonBear Jul 2018 #144
5" lower would literally be on her hips, and unfortunately that suit is fitted at her waist... bettyellen Jul 2018 #67
I agree that she has a short torso, but... LisaM Jul 2018 #72
I fit clothing for a living, and despite it being dead easy to find your natural waist, few can. bettyellen Jul 2018 #130
Thanks, that's fascinating (really) that you fit clothes. LisaM Jul 2018 #132
The advantage of structured clothes- especially jackets and tailored dresses is that they can bettyellen Jul 2018 #133
Thanks! LisaM Jul 2018 #140
Well that's good, because that goes better w your chest size. bettyellen Jul 2018 #142
Maybe She Needs RobinA Jul 2018 #82
But Oprah's are probably her own. LisaM Jul 2018 #84
Probably RobinA Jul 2018 #88
It looks like they're trying to minimize them a bit. She can't handle a snug waistline becasue bettyellen Jul 2018 #131
You can't polish a turd! Meadowoak Jul 2018 #10
That. onecaliberal Jul 2018 #11
Most Real Fashion Designers Refuse to Work with her JI7 Jul 2018 #14
Most of the time it looks less like she's wearing the clothes than like the clothes are wearing her. highplainsdem Jul 2018 #16
Most of the time she was posing as a model she wasn't wearing clothes. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #17
"Model," my ass. She was doing... 3catwoman3 Jul 2018 #59
So Many RobinA Jul 2018 #22
This dress is a special mess. Totally Tunsie Jul 2018 #19
That looks terrible. yardwork Jul 2018 #44
Why does it look like she has a pot belly... sheshe2 Jul 2018 #62
She has a pot belly. I had one too at her age, but I didn't show it off. Still don't, lol! MoonRiver Jul 2018 #75
She has had everything else nipped and tucked... sheshe2 Jul 2018 #79
Beats me! I kind of doubt at her age and with her idiot husband that she's pregnant. MoonRiver Jul 2018 #97
She isn't a kid anymore get the red out Jul 2018 #103
Especially the fabric fold under her chest--the bodice is too tight, and it is too long between tblue37 Jul 2018 #95
Yep, noticed that too. sheshe2 Jul 2018 #106
Belts are not a good look for women with full bustlines. smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #81
Yellow Dress RobinA Jul 2018 #20
I disagree. She doesn't look good most of the time. Maybe she thinks she is upstaging onecaliberal Jul 2018 #21
She's not the svelte model she used to be. Getting some lumps and bumps like we all do with age. MoonRiver Jul 2018 #23
Amazing to remember that Trump is half Scot, through his mother. appalachiablue Jul 2018 #25
all that plastic surgery has left her face looking so artificial AmandaRuth Jul 2018 #29
Spanky probably insists that she get periodic surgical tune-ups. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #39
One more facelift on her and she'll have a beard. smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #83
She's Only Addicted RobinA Jul 2018 #85
I loathe that woman, but credit where it's due eissa Jul 2018 #31
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2018 #33
You have no idea what you're talking about. Enjoy the dust bin. onecaliberal Jul 2018 #41
dammit Kali Jul 2018 #43
Was that one of those "#walkaway" types? haele Jul 2018 #66
an old DU mascot Kali Jul 2018 #87
Hear, hear onecaliberal Jul 2018 #92
She is short waisted KT2000 Jul 2018 #36
I agree with everything you said. Ilsa Jul 2018 #51
This Fit RobinA Jul 2018 #90
I kept wondering about the "wings" EffieBlack Jul 2018 #143
LOL! I'm sure there was a lot KT2000 Jul 2018 #146
Exactly! EffieBlack Jul 2018 #147
The pale pink Dior suite? Pls post a pic of that suit pls. Thx irisblue Jul 2018 #47
Can't find it yet. Saw her on TV onecaliberal Jul 2018 #49
Here, link: highplainsdem Jul 2018 #55
It's the belt wonkwest Jul 2018 #52
Except it was not a conservative suit. MoonRiver Jul 2018 #54
I haven't seen those angles wonkwest Jul 2018 #57
I think it was MSNBC showed a close-up of her butt as she climbed the stairs to meet the Queen. MoonRiver Jul 2018 #68
It's a rare achievement unlock wonkwest Jul 2018 #71
why would that suit need a belt? demtenjeep Jul 2018 #63
Yeah, I'm with you wonkwest Jul 2018 #64
I think she dresses that way because that's what don the con likes and requires of his women. dhol82 Jul 2018 #114
Because Back In The Day RobinA Jul 2018 #91
She is 48, not in her 50s yet. nt tblue37 Jul 2018 #101
It didn't fit her right across the lower hip. Ilsa Jul 2018 #70
she has always worn ugly clothes...but hey! at least she IS clothed! samnsara Jul 2018 #53
Generally I don't weigh in on her appearance JustAnotherGen Jul 2018 #56
She seemed comfy enough in her own skin when that was all she was wearing. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #60
Oooh! JustAnotherGen Jul 2018 #65
No hat or gloves on Melania pandr32 Jul 2018 #58
When I saw her yellow gown with cape I wondered where was her hennin & cointoise eleny Jul 2018 #61
It looked medieval to me, too. Medieval not well done at that. Quite the contrast to, say, the Lady suffragette Jul 2018 #111
It looked like a costume eleny Jul 2018 #126
I haven't seen today's clown suit, but that yellow dress would have been fun at a Sophia4 Jul 2018 #78
Hi Sophia syringis Jul 2018 #93
Trump looks all wrinkled up, like someone Ilsa Jul 2018 #98
Hi Ilsa syringis Jul 2018 #100
He's disgusting anyway. He looks like he got his suits off the rack at sears. onecaliberal Jul 2018 #112
Because he doesn't have Hope to steam his pants while he is wearing them womanofthehills Jul 2018 #148
The Queen looks fabulous. Ilsa Jul 2018 #102
Melania's suit today is not so awful. Sophia4 Jul 2018 #113
I think blue and yellow for EU colors syringis Jul 2018 #119
Thanks. And the EU is important. It actually strengthens the local economies of Sophia4 Jul 2018 #120
I think it's a golden shower greymattermom Jul 2018 #105
She may be smarter AmandaRuth Jul 2018 #145
Hi Onecaliberal syringis Jul 2018 #104
Hi Syringis, onecaliberal Jul 2018 #117
Melania pamdb Jul 2018 #110
Everything she wears lately makes it look like she is wearing compression bandaging after breast MrsCoffee Jul 2018 #115
She wasn't a fashion model...... dawnie51 Jul 2018 #116
She was a fashionless model. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #124
the yellow dress kpete Jul 2018 #118
Nooooo!!! We're having too much fun! Wounded Bear Jul 2018 #123
Who wore it better?? RockaFowler Jul 2018 #125
I think I know where she got the dress: The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #127
Oh my, now that is hysterical. Got a good laugh. Thanks. onecaliberal Jul 2018 #136
Exactly.. the curtain rod! Cha Jul 2018 #138
I think she... Mike Nelson Jul 2018 #129

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,267 posts)
1. Her clothes often don't fit quite right.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 12:17 PM
Jul 2018

Her artificial boobs are too big so the clothes don't hang properly - they were designed for women with normal proportions.

onecaliberal

(32,471 posts)
3. I concur, everything is ill fitted for the reason you stated but it's more than that.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 12:19 PM
Jul 2018

It’s wrong for the occassion most of the time as well. No sense of her own style.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
15. Everything about her is fake.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 12:32 PM
Jul 2018

The boobs, the face... She has that frozen look now.

Same for Ivanka. These people are just disgusting. How anyone in "Small Town America" thought this trashy "family" was regular folk is beyond me.

 

thegoose

(3,115 posts)
27. And the two of them together walking hand in hand
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 12:58 PM
Jul 2018

Is so ridiculous. Plastic cat woman and bloated old schlub.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
28. Her yellow dinner frock looked like she was initating a super character, who could fly.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 12:59 PM
Jul 2018

She ain't never going to be as classy as Jackie or Michele of Laura.

Polly Hennessey

(6,745 posts)
74. Exactly.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 02:22 PM
Jul 2018

The top part of her outfits always seem to gap or hang oddly. I agree that her large enhancements may be the problem. Surely, she looks in a mirror before she begins her public prancing. Any dressmaker would be able to make the necessary adjustments.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
107. While she was getting her "kidney surgery"
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 03:51 PM
Jul 2018

on her face, she may have wanted to consider having a breast lift done.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
5. I disagree....they need to keep doing what they doing..
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 12:19 PM
Jul 2018

they must really hate her....

she is consistently looking awful..

Cha

(295,899 posts)
137. That was my first reaction..
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 06:27 PM
Jul 2018

she deserves it especially since wearing the #JackethatBackfired

Which reminds me.. during that whole thing there were articles saying she does her own thing and makes the decisions for what she's wearing.. So..

calimary

(80,693 posts)
6. I like that dress. It conceals a lot of figure flaws. Bad taste to try to outshine the Queen, tho.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 12:20 PM
Jul 2018

Last edited Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:17 PM - Edit history (1)

I tend to gravitate toward fashions like that to hide MY OWN figure flaws. That style of gown would be PERFECT for someone built like me.

But for an occasion like this, I would have worn something a little less eye-catching.

I read that the royals, ESPECIALLY Queen Elizabeth, have the convention of wearing colors so they can clearly be seen in a crowd. If you'll notice, Her Majesty is frequently seen in eye-poppingly green and in today's case, a very bright royal blue.

I suspect Nikki Haley dresses the way she often does for the same reason. Just something I've noticed through the years.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
26. :) I don't think she has any figure flaws, but
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 12:56 PM
Jul 2018

you say, trying to outshine the queen, in her own country no less! Good grief.

Best guess -- what do I know, except that apparently dresses exquisitely tailored to show off boobs seemingly hanging free are in? -- she doesn't have bad clothes taste for billionaires' trophy wives, a special society after all. But she doesn't seem to know or care that styles for first-lady society should trump trophy wife style.

Reminding me of when she wore sparkling white to the mud-covered Gulf Coast disaster zone, where many tens of thousands were filthier than they'd ever been in their lives. She was there, but not there at all.


greatauntoftriplets

(175,691 posts)
37. Any figure flaws that she has have been corrected.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:14 PM
Jul 2018

Last night's outfit was the Shroud of Urine. to member LakeArenal for that gem.

calimary

(80,693 posts)
45. Oh she definitely has no figure flaws. But that gown was inappropriate.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:21 PM
Jul 2018

Not only for a visit with The Queen but also - daytime. That's a big-ticket night-time gala outfit. Or what one might wear to an inaugural ball - AS First Lady. Or on the red carpet if one is an Oscar nominee or presenter or something of that caliber. Poor taste in this case. WAY overdressed. And she has NO claim to royalty of any sort, so she should have toned it down. But you're right - she does dress the role of the high-roller's trophy wife.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
89. Hi Hortensis
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 02:48 PM
Jul 2018

She broke records this time !

The trenchcoat at arrival in Brussels, the net fishing or doily or bedcover or whatever that stuff is called at NATO cocktail party, and the Embassy curtains yesterday !

Still haven't seen her last pick...

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
32. I loved that shade of bright blue on the Queen
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:02 PM
Jul 2018

Very pleasing to her complexion and blue eyes, and very pleasing to me. Plus Melania didn't wear a hat or gloves.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
96. Hi Vlyons
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 03:30 PM
Jul 2018

The Queen choice is absolutely not innocent !

Blue and yellow... EU colors... She cannot openly express any political view, but she masters to the perfection how to deliver a message without a single word !

She clearly despises Trump and showed she didn't appreciate at all his idiotic comments on Brexit and EU.

 

wonkwest

(463 posts)
42. The hats serve the same purpose
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:18 PM
Jul 2018

I read an article a few years ago that the bright colors and specifically the hats are so security can keep an eye on her in crowds. She's actually quite diminutive. Only 5' 4".

Smart.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
7. She is hideous on the inside.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 12:20 PM
Jul 2018

Damn near always looks great with respect to appearances. Of course the hoody was an exception and someone should have lost their job over it. Hopefully her husband will be impeached and Melania is the one who will lose her job.

nolabear

(41,915 posts)
8. The dress made me laugh but I think the suit is fine. Looks hot though.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 12:20 PM
Jul 2018

I’m often shocked that men haven’t figured out something cooler than those suits to wear in hot weather. I’d be miserable.

MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
18. That's kind of matronly and bulky for her
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 12:36 PM
Jul 2018

She'd actually look better in something fitted and maybe a shorter skirt, but maybe she's dressing conservatively for the Queen. I mean, if you've got the body, it doesn't help to hide it. Not saying she should dress sexy, but something a little more flattering for her figure. I mean, the duchesses don't dress like that, she should take her cue from them. That blush or "white" or whatever it is is way too old for her.

I actually thought the "see through" dress was one of the nicer things she's worn. But I guess it's not formal enough for the Queen.

Michelle Obama was a great dresser. Working-class from the south side of Chicago and she always knew how to dress.

Except for the color, Melania looks like a North Korean or Soviet spy. It's a little severe and military.

haele

(12,581 posts)
34. The belt thows it off. Too harsh, skinny and jarringly dark. Also, it's a winter suit.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:06 PM
Jul 2018

A more tailored, less military looking suit top, a slightly wider belt in perhaps a pastel color (sort of a spring to summer look) or a watermarked shade of the color of her hair might work better. It's supposed to be a tea, not an interview or hostage negotiation...

She should also be wearing shorter heels, just so she tower so much over her hostess.

But then, if I were her stylist, I'd probably be fired a long time ago, because politics trumps talent in Drumpf world.

Haele

Kali

(54,990 posts)
38. I don't think her feet can go in flat or short heels.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:15 PM
Jul 2018

molded like the Barbie doll that she is (Barbie's history is similar LOL)

calimary

(80,693 posts)
50. The suit is better, more appropriate, but you're right about the belt.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:24 PM
Jul 2018

Makes her look like a sack of potatoes.

RobinA

(9,874 posts)
73. She Tends To Wear
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 02:21 PM
Jul 2018

belted stuff, which she obviously likes but doesn't work with the unnaturally large bust line. And I agree about the stilts. When you're meeting someone tiny and pictures will be taken, let's try to minimize the difference. Not that the queen doesn't hold her own with her bright blue, hat, and ever present purse.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
80. She and Ivanka don't seem to get that large busts look great in bikini shots or porn films, but
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 02:30 PM
Jul 2018

are not fashion friendly. They really ruin the lines of most clothing and can make even the most elegant designs look frumpy. Most successful models are on the smaller side.

get the red out

(13,458 posts)
99. I know this personally
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 03:42 PM
Jul 2018

It's just the way I am built, but it really does add a frumpy look to everything. I have been frustrated with my oversized top since I was about 13.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
108. So do I. That's why I had a breast reduction a number of years ago and insurance paid for it
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 03:52 PM
Jul 2018

because they were so out of proportion to the rest of my body. I couldn't find dresses to fit - everything would have to be tailored and I just felt very self-conscious all the time. I hated it. I am still fairly large, but much more in proportion.

get the red out

(13,458 posts)
109. My sister had breast reduction as well
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 03:55 PM
Jul 2018

I don't think my insurance would pay for it since they aren't causing me back pain, as they did my sister. There is no way for me to find a dress that fits, I am a larger size up top than my hips are. Pain in the ass, I have never understood why people want breast enlargement. To each her own I guess.

calimary

(80,693 posts)
139. Diana always wore low heels, at least til her divorce.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 06:47 PM
Jul 2018

She was tall. I’m guessing it was a consideration of hers, not to be taller than Charles, and his mother, too, of course.

kskiska

(27,040 posts)
128. Her belts are always above her natural waistline.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 05:01 PM
Jul 2018

The belts don't go well with the inflated boobs.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
77. I agree with everything you have said.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 02:27 PM
Jul 2018

Completely inappropriate. She just doesn't look put together.

She and her husband look like a couple of hillbillies who just won the lottery and are trying to look "elegant" and failing miserably.

mnhtnbb

(31,316 posts)
24. The Queen doesn't look very happy in that photo, does she?
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 12:51 PM
Jul 2018

She is taking one for her country, meeting those two.

LisaM

(27,758 posts)
30. It's way too high-waisted for her figure (or for anyone's figure)
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:01 PM
Jul 2018

and I have that very same problem with Kate Middleton's look. That belt (which doesn't need to be there at all, or should be the same color as the suit) should hang a good five inches lower. And the pockets need to go.

Melania's clothes never, ever, fit, but one problem is today's crop of designers who don't seem to be designing for the human figure.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,267 posts)
35. Designers who don't design for the human figure shouldn't be a problem for Melania.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:12 PM
Jul 2018

She doesn't have a human figure. She's been boobily enhanced to the point where her clothes don't hang properly.

LisaM

(27,758 posts)
46. That's probably true, but....
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:21 PM
Jul 2018

that suit, and most of what Kate Middleton wears, place the so-called waist almost directly under the armpits.

pansypoo53219

(20,906 posts)
121. if they were fake, the's be higher. east euro post baby age boobage. she needs a better bra.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 04:47 PM
Jul 2018

bet the moron demands she wear pumps. the belt interferes w/ the jacket.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,267 posts)
122. They probably were higher when she got them.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 04:49 PM
Jul 2018

But over time they sagged because the muscle structure behind them couldn't hold them up any more. Fake boobs eventually sag like real ones; they just don't flatten out as much.

RobinA

(9,874 posts)
76. Although I Love
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 02:26 PM
Jul 2018

Kate's look most of the time, I know what you mean. The line could come down a bit. Although, in Kate's case she doesn't have the big boob-shelf adding to the "My clothes are choking me" look.

CottonBear

(21,596 posts)
134. The Duchess of Cambridge is very long waisted and very slim.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 05:55 PM
Jul 2018

Thus, her bespoke clothing seems to be tailored to place the waist a bit higher than her natural waist. She also has slim hips and she needs to define a waistline.

LisaM

(27,758 posts)
141. I think she wears her clothes too tight.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 06:56 PM
Jul 2018

I saw a few pictures of her when she and William were taking a break, when she presumably dressed more to her own taste, and I loved her easy, fun style. But now she is in a different role, I guess.

CottonBear

(21,596 posts)
144. She wears a very tailored uniform of highly fitted bespoke clothing.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 07:09 PM
Jul 2018

She wears more relaxed clothing on those rare occasions that we see her “off duty”, as it were.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
67. 5" lower would literally be on her hips, and unfortunately that suit is fitted at her waist...
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:49 PM
Jul 2018

She’s got too problems, very large and low hanging boobs, and a short torso her waist is just a few inches below the bottom of her boobs. Her dilemma is she shouldn’t ever wear anything fitted at the waist- but she wants to show off her body. She can’t solve it by shoving her boobs in our face as she used to. She needs a softer fit and a boob reduction. But yeah, using her natural waist is not flattering at all.

LisaM

(27,758 posts)
72. I agree that she has a short torso, but...
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 02:14 PM
Jul 2018

I think her natural waist has to be a little lower than that. And the fake boobs do not help.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
130. I fit clothing for a living, and despite it being dead easy to find your natural waist, few can.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 05:22 PM
Jul 2018

And I’m talking about for models who know their bodies very very well. It’s becasue it’s been almost a generation that wears clothes below their natural waist (on their high hip) and think that means where it is. They often don’t believe me when I show them it’s found by tying a string there till there’s no slack. We haven’t really done high waisted styles since the mid 80’s to early 90’s.

A person’s waist is the smallest part of their torso between their boobs and hips, no matter where it falls. The shorter you are the harder it is to deal with those extreme curves, and it looks like her waist is quite a bit high. Those clothes are tailored to nip in at her natural waist, and her boobs look low and scrunched together so much it’s giving her a weird pooch in the center above her waist. But to tailor perfectly fit her body in that area , it would be toocurvy and Jessica Rabbit sexy, becasue her boobs are so over-enhanced. She should go with a demi-fit, skim the waist. But she’s not sophisticated enough and their whole esthetic is about “ wow big boobs!”

LisaM

(27,758 posts)
132. Thanks, that's fascinating (really) that you fit clothes.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 05:28 PM
Jul 2018

I have a rather low waist, and I hate these high-waisted styles that people are wearing, with those little belts. Everything is tight on me there and I have a pretty healthy bust. If I get shirts that fit, the armholes are so big you can see everything underneath. It's a challenge.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
133. The advantage of structured clothes- especially jackets and tailored dresses is that they can
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 05:54 PM
Jul 2018

Fool the eye and reshape your body. You’re lucky you have a low waist, though! It’s easier to fool the eye and look long legged than it is to lengthen your torso. My rib cage is long AF and my hips high so my natural waist doesn’t nip in a whole lot.
The armhole thing happens becasue instead of using bust darts, they pivot that excess fabric into the armhole. You should look for styles w darts and smaller armholes. Side and vertical waist darts both help, but the vertical ones are soo much easier to tailor- or even add. Damn, you can just buy a loose shirt, put it on inside out and pin that puppy till the fit up front looks cleaner. Easy!

LisaM

(27,758 posts)
140. Thanks!
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 06:55 PM
Jul 2018

I also have broad shoulders. I always have to buy my clothes too big to attend to a couple of areas.....

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
142. Well that's good, because that goes better w your chest size.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 07:02 PM
Jul 2018

It should be very easy and cheap to add vertical darts - front and back, to reduce volume and flatter you so much more. Try experimenting w some safety pins and talk to a sewer about it. You’d be surprised the difference it makes.

RobinA

(9,874 posts)
82. Maybe She Needs
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 02:33 PM
Jul 2018

the right bra. I feel the same way about Ivanka. There are some pretty bodacious women out there (Oprah, for one) who manage to support the girls adequately. The Trump ladies aren't anywhere near Oprah, but have major sag going on.

LisaM

(27,758 posts)
84. But Oprah's are probably her own.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 02:36 PM
Jul 2018

That said, the Trumps could probably afford seamstresses, however, they would probably stiff them on the bill. Maybe they already have and that's what's going on, a Dressmakers Revolt!

RobinA

(9,874 posts)
88. Probably
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 02:48 PM
Jul 2018

But I don't think fake ones have to sag. When you go up in size, you just can't wear the double D version of the B you used to wear, you have to call for reinforcements, and if you are in the public eye, go for an actual bra fitting by someone who knows what they are doing!

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
131. It looks like they're trying to minimize them a bit. She can't handle a snug waistline becasue
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 05:24 PM
Jul 2018

Her boobs are just sitting on the waist. It’s actually hard to alter for higher fuller boobs without screwing up the armhole fit, which they did well here. But yeah, a better bra would help. And wearing it for fittings is essential.

JI7

(89,172 posts)
14. Most Real Fashion Designers Refuse to Work with her
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 12:30 PM
Jul 2018

She was never a real successful model which is why she ended up with trun trump and marrying him.

highplainsdem

(48,718 posts)
16. Most of the time it looks less like she's wearing the clothes than like the clothes are wearing her.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 12:32 PM
Jul 2018

Maybe too many years posing as a model. And most of the time she looked uncomfortable as a model.

RobinA

(9,874 posts)
22. So Many
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 12:47 PM
Jul 2018

of the clothes she wears do have features that tend to be uncomfortable. Her collars specifically. The first thing I think when I see her is, Gee, she looks uncomfortable, and second, I would be uncomfortable in that too. And I don't just mean the stilettos.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
19. This dress is a special mess.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 12:41 PM
Jul 2018

It's way too snug, evidenced by the ride-up wrinkles at her stomach pooch. It's definitely not "furst laydee" styling.

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sheshe2

(83,319 posts)
62. Why does it look like she has a pot belly...
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:37 PM
Jul 2018

or baby bump? I noticed that when I saw her deplane.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
97. Beats me! I kind of doubt at her age and with her idiot husband that she's pregnant.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 03:37 PM
Jul 2018

But, poor baby if she is.

get the red out

(13,458 posts)
103. She isn't a kid anymore
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 03:46 PM
Jul 2018

She is a middle-aged woman, unfortunately I know how that feels. But that dress can't be comfortable, there are other styles that would look a lot better too.

tblue37

(64,979 posts)
95. Especially the fabric fold under her chest--the bodice is too tight, and it is too long between
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 03:28 PM
Jul 2018

her breasts and her waist, which causes it to file over under her breasts.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
81. Belts are not a good look for women with full bustlines.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 02:32 PM
Jul 2018

They really make her look frumpy and un-stylish.

RobinA

(9,874 posts)
20. Yellow Dress
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 12:42 PM
Jul 2018

I think that yellow dress is gorgeous, if a little ingenueish for Melania. (I mean the state dinner yellow, not that horror above.) I don't think she looks hideous much of the time, I think she looks uncomfortable. I also think her clothes tend to, and are meant to, upstage the people around her. It's possible to dress well and not make the other women around you, the ones that have actual accomplishments in life, look like scullery maids by comparison.

Her approach seems to be, "You may run a world power, but I look good in clothes."

onecaliberal

(32,471 posts)
21. I disagree. She doesn't look good most of the time. Maybe she thinks she is upstaging
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 12:47 PM
Jul 2018

Accomplished women, that is only in her own mind. Her ill fitted inappropriate attire on most days is not fitting for the third lady.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
23. She's not the svelte model she used to be. Getting some lumps and bumps like we all do with age.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 12:51 PM
Jul 2018

Time to retire the skin tight dresses.

AmandaRuth

(3,105 posts)
29. all that plastic surgery has left her face looking so artificial
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:00 PM
Jul 2018

her eyes, omg - if she has anymore work done, they are gonna disappear from her face. Do you think she is one of those types that get addicted to plastic surgery?

also, you are absolutely correct, she can't style herself for all the couture in the world

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,267 posts)
39. Spanky probably insists that she get periodic surgical tune-ups.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:15 PM
Jul 2018

After all, Melania is in her late 40s, which is far beyond a woman's sell-by date in Trump's eyes. He can't be seen in public with a woman who actually looks her age; what would other important men think?

RobinA

(9,874 posts)
85. She's Only Addicted
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 02:39 PM
Jul 2018

in the sense that she knows she has to keep her salable skills up to date in the marketplace. She's a woman who trades on her looks, so she's gotta keep the looks up to date. Personally, if I were her I think I'd take the money and run. She's obviously miserable, and she's gotta come away from this gig with at least enough money to live comfortably forever. Maybe they have a contract. She sticks with him through the Presidency and her price triples.

eissa

(4,238 posts)
31. I loathe that woman, but credit where it's due
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:02 PM
Jul 2018

Her clothes are fabulous. Granted, someone with that figure can pull off any look, but even someone as hideous as she is does look good.

Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

haele

(12,581 posts)
66. Was that one of those "#walkaway" types?
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:45 PM
Jul 2018

Yeah, "No Liberal around here would ever judge on appearance". Snark is bad. It's so-o-o petty, judgmental and divisive, to boot.
Because we all know all real liberals progressives are always polite and serious, like stereotypical bureaucrats and TV drama pastors, or talking socialization dolls for four to six year olds reared by middle class helicopter parents.

Real liberals and progressives are all about the cause; no fun at parties, and their jokes - if they have any - are always "dad jokes".

I don't snark on Melania just because of her poor fashion sense. I snark on Melania because her public actions over the years have exposed her true arrogant, and rather pitiably ugly attitudes on the world's stage, and she's trying to gaslight us into believing she has even a quarter of the natural grace of a Michelle Obama or even the rather common interests that Laura Bush takes in the world around her.
The fact that her own stylists either don't understand her position or don't care what she looks like in public says a lot about her character.
Our snark on her fashion is a very, very small way of calling her and the administration that props her up out.

Melania Trump not so much a victim of circumstance as a willing accomplice who's in way over her head - and she's unwilling to play the part of either some form of "hostage of fortune" poor little rich girl or the wife of a powerful man who is expected to be a public influence.

Haele

KT2000

(20,544 posts)
36. She is short waisted
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:12 PM
Jul 2018

with a large bust, which if not dressed correctly, looks matronly. She has long legs contrasted with a short bodice where too much stuff is trying to fit in. She would be better off without the belts which accentuate the problem areas.
The yellow dress looked like it came out of a costume department - way too much happening in the midriff and the wings were probably a mess during dinner.

Ilsa

(61,675 posts)
51. I agree with everything you said.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:24 PM
Jul 2018

And the back of the suit jacket did not lay correctly. Plus, the skirt was too tight just below her hips, causing the skirt to hug the underside of her buttocks. Awful fit. And yes, the belts make it all worse.

RobinA

(9,874 posts)
90. This Fit
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 02:56 PM
Jul 2018

seems to be a style. I am currently binge watching Suits, the TV show. Several of the females on that show, specifically Meghan Markel and Gina Torres, wear that butt hugging style to work in a law firm. Ugh. When I have a skirt that goes in under my butt it goes to Good Will. Not attractive and not appropriate for work.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
143. I kept wondering about the "wings"
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 07:02 PM
Jul 2018

They may look fine if you're standing on a runway or outside a mansion like a mannequin, but I can't imagine how one would navigate that cape throughout an evening that includes dinner. Did she sit on it? Did it puddle around her feet under the table? How did she keep it from getting in the way of her elbows while she ate?

KT2000

(20,544 posts)
146. LOL! I'm sure there was a lot
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 10:36 PM
Jul 2018

of fussing with it - besides the chairs next to her may get stuck in those wings on the floor when they want to get up. Rip!

 

wonkwest

(463 posts)
52. It's the belt
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:25 PM
Jul 2018

It's way too high. Michelle Obama is high-waisted, but she and/or her stylists always knew where to put her belt so it flattered her figure.

In this, you can see the belt is cinching things up in an awkward way.

I think Melania generally looks fine. I don't like criticizing First Ladies on appearances. She's a beautiful woman. And Michelle is gorgeous as well. A conservative suit is probably appropriate to meet the queen.

The belt irks me though.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
54. Except it was not a conservative suit.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:29 PM
Jul 2018

Her butt and crack were clearly revealed. Michelle usually wore flared skirts and dresses, which were much more modest and attractive.

 

wonkwest

(463 posts)
57. I haven't seen those angles
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:33 PM
Jul 2018

Agreed though. Whoever Michelle was consulting deserves a raise, because she always looked appropriate and great.

But Michelle seemed like a natural. Melania always looks vaguely uncomfortable. She didn't want the job, and I don't think she knows what to do. What she needs is one good, solid friend to go, "Oh honey, no. You need to do this instead." It doesn't feel like she has that in her world. I do pity her in that.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
68. I think it was MSNBC showed a close-up of her butt as she climbed the stairs to meet the Queen.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:50 PM
Jul 2018

It was pretty gross. The skirt pushed deep into her butt crack. She should just wear a bathing suit next time, and skip the pretense.

 

wonkwest

(463 posts)
64. Yeah, I'm with you
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:42 PM
Jul 2018

It's just ruining the entire look. She looks almost frumpy, and she's not a frumpy woman. Such an odd choice to me. It's what the eye is drawn to immediately.

RobinA

(9,874 posts)
91. Because Back In The Day
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 03:09 PM
Jul 2018

she wore belts because they accented her waist, hips and bust and she looked great in them. But now she's in her 50's and despite plastic surgery, she doesn't look 25 any more. Unfortunately, she's still trying the old belt trick, because the surgery has her fooled that she only looks 27 and she still thinks the belt works. She could look great in appropriate clothing, for instance the blue inauguration suit. Get rid of the spikes, the belts, the high collars and the 20-year-old on the red carpet dresses and she could look really good.

Ilsa

(61,675 posts)
70. It didn't fit her right across the lower hip.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:51 PM
Jul 2018

It was too tight across the area below her buttocks. If she had been wearing jeans, her butt would not have been as pronounced.

JustAnotherGen

(31,681 posts)
56. Generally I don't weigh in on her appearance
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:32 PM
Jul 2018

But I actually like that Dior suit on her. She's buttoned up and 'proper'. Same as when they met Macron (the Red Suit) - I thought she 'looked' like a first lady.

She'll never be comfy in her own skin like Michelle, as lady like at Laura, or as polished as first lady Clinton - hair bands at all -

But she sometimes does it right!

pandr32

(11,446 posts)
58. No hat or gloves on Melania
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:34 PM
Jul 2018

...and the slob tRump didn't even have the sense to button his jacket--even when the Queen invited him to inspect the Royal Guard alongside her after waiting on her feet for what seemed like forever in the summer heat at 92.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
111. It looked medieval to me, too. Medieval not well done at that. Quite the contrast to, say, the Lady
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 04:00 PM
Jul 2018

and the Unicorn tapestry series.

Of course, it doesn’t help that Trump is much more of a troll than a unicorn.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
126. It looked like a costume
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 04:56 PM
Jul 2018

She needs to just decide who she is and stick to it. She certainly has the figure to wear clothes well, imo. If only she found the right designer she could look amazing.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
78. I haven't seen today's clown suit, but that yellow dress would have been fun at a
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 02:28 PM
Jul 2018

light-hearted summer fest, maybe a costume ball. But to meet the queen?

It looked really embarrassingly pompous, tasteless, exaggerated, like something a five-year-old would dream of.

It was not appropriate. Not appropriate at all.

I don't usually comment on clothing like this, but that dress was some movie director's idea of royal style.

Michelle Obama had much, much better taste.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
93. Hi Sophia
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 03:24 PM
Jul 2018

It's horrible !! I've noticed the queen is in blue and yellow, which is anything but innocent !! She has a special talent to deliver a message, all in subtlety...



Ilsa

(61,675 posts)
98. Trump looks all wrinkled up, like someone
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 03:40 PM
Jul 2018

just threw his clothes into a suitcase. His apparel is so predictable.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
100. Hi Ilsa
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 03:44 PM
Jul 2018

I just noticed his ties ! Another weird one !

I agree, looks like he picked the first suit he got his hands on !

onecaliberal

(32,471 posts)
112. He's disgusting anyway. He looks like he got his suits off the rack at sears.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 04:04 PM
Jul 2018

I’ve never seen him in anything I thought he even looked okay. He’s disgusting.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
113. Melania's suit today is not so awful.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 04:07 PM
Jul 2018

But that yellow dress . . . looked like a period costume from a bad movie.

This suit is, in my opinion, OK.

Are you thinking blue for Democrats?

Maybe that is why she chose that color, but I question that she would do that.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
120. Thanks. And the EU is important. It actually strengthens the local economies of
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 04:37 PM
Jul 2018

the European members in my opinion.

And NATO has made the whole world more secure because belonging to NATO requires cooperating with other countries.

Since 1945, so many people have forgotten the centuries of war in Europe.

Some of my family members escaped religious oppression in some of those very early wars. But the wars continued and continued until NATO.

I am not opposed to the Russian people. But we are a long established republic in which we democratically (except the president who is elected by the electoral college) elect our governments.

Russia's interference in our elections is unacceptable. It could easily be seen as an act of aggression if not an act of war.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
104. Hi Onecaliberal
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 03:47 PM
Jul 2018

She was model, but not sure she were promoting clothes... or maybe invisible clothes ? Who knows ???

onecaliberal

(32,471 posts)
117. Hi Syringis,
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 04:17 PM
Jul 2018

Good point. Clothes were never really her thing. Sad the peasant can’t afford to employ someone who knows what they’re doing. That dress truly looked like rubbish on her.

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
115. Everything she wears lately makes it look like she is wearing compression bandaging after breast
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 04:10 PM
Jul 2018

surgery.

The fully covered up to the neck with the weird crisscross chest/waist things going on.

I mean it is kind of odd how covered up she has been considering she usually has no problem flaunting skin.

dawnie51

(959 posts)
116. She wasn't a fashion model......
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 04:16 PM
Jul 2018

and she sure doesn't know much about fashion. She specialized in taking OFF clothes, and there's ample examples of her work to prove it. High fashion it was not.

kpete

(71,898 posts)
118. the yellow dress
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 04:19 PM
Jul 2018

looked like a poor imitation of sleeping beauties dress in the disney movie
mho, kp

Mike Nelson

(9,903 posts)
129. I think she...
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 05:22 PM
Jul 2018

… dresses herself. She likes her hair to look nice and her top to look BIG. That always works, but the rest is hit or miss... today was miss. He always looks awful... his weight and hair are a problem. I suppose he does dress to make himself thinner, so that works. He should shave the sides of his head, where he seems to grow his hair long and slick back... but there are probably scars to cover. Best bet is to stay in and not be photographed!


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