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Thu Jul 12, 2018, 11:43 AM

Country Seems To Be Heading For A Meltdown. So Much Chaos.

There is a growing incivility in the US. It is particularly noticeable with more an more racist mayhem in the news. The growing harassment of minorities should be alarming. Trump and the GOP are more hysterical and brazen in their openness about quashing the investigation. And they are more strident and aggressive about defending criminals, Nazis, and unfit candidates running in November. And they are more ardent about inciting discord and outright hatred.

I wonder if we will enter the elections peacefully. We could be facing a particularly tumultuous and bitter election cycle in November. One can only imagine the ads against Democrats. And we can only imagine the more vitriolic rhetoric from Trump moving forward.

The GOP is making clear it plans to be the only legal party in the US.

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Reply Country Seems To Be Heading For A Meltdown. So Much Chaos. (Original post)
TheMastersNemesis Thursday OP
Farmgirl1961 Thursday #1
dalton99a Thursday #2
Girard442 Thursday #3
Name removed Thursday #10
FSogol Thursday #14
Girard442 Thursday #15
FakeNoose Thursday #4
tonyt53 Thursday #11
FakeNoose Thursday #16
BumRushDaShow Thursday #5
genxlib Thursday #8
spanone Thursday #6
3Hotdogs Thursday #7
genxlib Thursday #9
3Hotdogs Thursday #12
genxlib Thursday #13
Hortensis Thursday #17

Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 11:48 AM

1. Slight correction:

"The GOP is making clear it plans to be the only (il)legal party in the US."

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 11:50 AM

2. We must fight fire with fire. And we must be relentless.

There is no other option

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 11:53 AM

3. We will need people near the polling places...

...to discourage any attempts at voter intimidation. “Near”, meaning safely outside of the legally mandated radius. Violence is not an option, but it would be good if any Deplorable hanging around in his rolling coal 4WD with rifle racks was surrounded by a sea of pussy hats.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #10)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 01:01 PM

14. Fuck the Republicans. Fuck every single one of those baby prison pukes.

x ∞

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Response to Name removed (Reply #10)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 01:06 PM

15. Not all R's are like that, but a guy in a suit with a sign, "Support our president"...

...wouldn't be a problem. A sea of pussy hats isn't intimidation unless they decide to have a go at Deppy's 4WD with baseball bats and I think that would be a really bad idea. To show up to make a statement and to be heavily outnumbered by the other side isn't being intimidated -- it's being fed a reality sandwich.

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 11:54 AM

4. Baby boomer here - I lived through the Vietnam war/civil rights protests

The civic unrest that's happening now is child's play compared to that.

However we are seeing severe and frightening threats to our democracy now that have no counterpart to those times of the late 60's and early 70's. It's the hidden undermining activities that could literally change the course of our history. We must act to stop what the GOP is trying to do and what they already have done.

We have to vote these fuckers out in November. Emasculate Trump as soon as possible, impeach him if we can. Get the good guys back in office and make new laws so this crap NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN!



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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #4)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 12:20 PM

11. Same here. It's the reason I'm a lifelong Democrat.

Hell, thing is, we can't even get people to vote in their own best interests - if they bother to vote at all.

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Response to tonyt53 (Reply #11)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 01:25 PM

16. Totally agree

It's scary how people are so stupid now. What happened?

This can't all be blamed on Faux News either. People were already stupid before they started broadcasting.



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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 12:00 PM

5. "The growing harassment of minorities"

IMHO, not "growing". It's always been there. What is different is not only is it being documented more and more by cell phone, BUT (and most importantly - at least for the moment) it is being REPORTED by the "mainstream media". Before that, it was considered just a bunch of "isolated incidents" posted on social media (which is where people are finding it), which the media would not have considered "newsworthy".

I would agree there is quite a bit of stress out there but as a note, IMHO, the effects of this trade war may have some impact on this upcoming election. I.e., it might not mean GOPers switching parties but it's possible that some affected first-time voter GOPers may just sit home stewing.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 12:14 PM

8. I was going to say the same thing

As Will Smith said "Racism Is Not Getting Worse, It's Getting Filmed"

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 12:01 PM

6. putin's plan is working perfectly

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 12:10 PM

7. I recall reading diaries from the 1840's when writers were expressing similar concerns.

This was the time of the Know Nothing Party. There was violence. Look up "Plug Uglies." The undesirables were Germans fleeing political chaos, then followed by Irish after the famine.

People were similarly concerned about the stability of our country.

We survived.

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #7)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 12:18 PM

9. That is not a comforting thought

Considering that it took a Civil War with several hundred thousands of deaths to survive.

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Response to genxlib (Reply #9)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 12:20 PM

12. The Civil War wasn't a response to anti-immigrant violence.

It was 'Mericans of that era trying to Make America Great Again.

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #12)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 12:37 PM

13. No it wasn't

But the OP was not just about that either. While the racism they reference would include the anti-immigrant BS, it is not limited to it.

Forgive me if I leaped to the wrong conclusion but I was reacting more to description of unrest in the Country and the incivility to which the OP refers. Bringing up the mid 1800's just gives me nightmares.

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #7)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 01:25 PM

17. G. Washington: "Virtue, I fear, has in a great degree

taken its departure from our Land, and the want of disposition to do justice is the source of the national embarrassments."

Washington's very understated way of expressing his great distress to John Jay, who also feared our new confederation of states was destroying itself from within from lack of virtue.

We really were in much worse shape then, especially those "national embarrassments" by the dozens in every state that lead even to armed insurrections and collapse of currencies. We lack virtue and justice now, of course, but then we had almost no workable national systems that would have to be destroyed to bring us down. They also feared England was doing then what Russia is now.

Their response was call the first constitutional convention to create them.

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