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Thu Jul 12, 2018, 04:54 AM

"Why does Trump hate Germany?"

https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-angela-merkel-germany-nato-why-germany-trumps-strange-fixation-vexes-experts/

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That is fairly easy to answer: Germany is everything Trump dislikes in a country.

- Germany is clumsy and slow. Everything is bogged down with regulations and complicated multilateral negotiations, from Germany's 6-party-parliament to its financial regulations to its unions.

- Germany has no glamour. Sure Germany has its share of skyscrapers and international celebrities and artists, but where are the decadent parties with yachts and models?

- Germany is famous for its engineers and scientists. Jobs where almost anyone can rise to a good career. That doesn't play well with Trump's classist mindset.

- Germany has a leadership-role in the EU and yet refuses that power because they don't want all the pressure and responsibility. Also, the EU is a complicated network of political and economic connections and Trump cannot handle this.

- Germany is friendly to immigrants.

- And worst of all: Germany is run by an old woman.





Compare that to Russia:

- Russia is run by an authoritarian strongman, for the simple reason that all of his competitors are either nutjobs from the political fringe, fame-hungry celebrities, or have successfully been branded as unreliable troublemakers.

- As such, Russia acts fast and decisive, because there is no need for internal deliberations.

- Russia has an imperial mindset. From the Czars, to the Soviet Union, to Putin, the Russians have always felt a connection to Russia as an empire. (The chaos of the post Cold War era has soured democracy's image in Russia.) And Trump shares that imperial mindset, where he's not one among equals, but one at the top.

- Russia is famous for its billionaires and vulgar dictator-chic and its parties and beautiful women.

- Russia is ethnically diverse, but basically all of these ethnicities are white people, so that's fine.

- And best of all: Russia is run by a man who likes to show off his virility.

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Reply "Why does Trump hate Germany?" (Original post)
DetlefK Jul 12 OP
syringis Jul 12 #1
Cha Jul 12 #3
Cha Jul 12 #2
DetlefK Jul 12 #5
Scarsdale Jul 12 #25
JI7 Jul 12 #4
BannonsLiver Jul 12 #6
CozyMystery Jul 12 #7
LisaM Jul 12 #8
kag Jul 12 #18
RVN VET71 Jul 12 #26
rainin Jul 12 #9
Cosmocat Jul 12 #14
hlthe2b Jul 12 #10
Arkansas Granny Jul 12 #11
hlthe2b Jul 12 #28
Trumpocalypse Jul 12 #12
betsuni Jul 12 #13
babylonsister Jul 12 #15
Snake Plissken Jul 12 #16
liberal N proud Jul 12 #17
DrDan Jul 12 #19
sandensea Jul 12 #20
Cryptoad Jul 12 #21
DFW Jul 12 #22
UCmeNdc Jul 12 #23
The King of Prussia Jul 12 #24
BeyondGeography Jul 12 #27
George II Jul 12 #29
duforsure Jul 12 #30
ProfessorPlum Jul 12 #31
spanone Jul 12 #32
bdamomma Jul 12 #33
mythology Jul 12 #34

Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 05:01 AM

1. Hi DetlefK

Do not forget his grandpa who was deported...

Not exactly Germany at this time, but does that make a difference for the Great Ignoranus ?


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Response to syringis (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 05:09 AM

3. Oh that's right.. it was his grandfather

who was Deported..

Well that changes Everything!

Mahalo, syringis.. I'll have to edit my post other post on this thread.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 05:06 AM

2. putin tells trump to hate Germany.

Aren't Fraud's ancestors from Germany? Like his Drumpfuck's father?

ETA~ It was his grandfather Drumpf who was Deported.. Fraud's carrying a Grudge

Mahalo, syringis!

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Response to Cha (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 05:16 AM

5. Yes. Maybe it reminds him of his family's humble past.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kallstadt


That's where Trump's ancestors come from.

And the whole state basically looks like that. Humble, rural... forests, hills, villages, agriculture, wine... It's very nice there. The cities and towns separated from each other by endless forests for hiking.

But I guess it's not flashy enough for Trump. He stole a british coat-of-arms and the truth is that his ancestors are from a 1000-people village in the middle of nowhere.

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Response to DetlefK (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 07:42 AM

25. His grandpa

was a pimp, who opened a brothel in Canada. So using and discarding women runs in the tRump family.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 05:13 AM

4. because he takes his orders from Putin

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 05:17 AM

6. I think it's 100 percent Merkel

Red Don lacks the intellectual capacity to process the other things you mentioned. If he knows Germany has six parties Iíll eat my hat.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #6)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 05:30 AM

7. Yeah, she is a heck of a lot smarter than he is.

My mom is 83. She has PTSD from being a kid in WW2 Germany, and from living in the former East Germany.

She will not speak of the trauma. A decade ago, the nightmares got to be too much. She asked me if I could help her figure out why she dreams of a bear attacking her every night. I said bear = Russia. The nightmares stopped.

It was incredibly mean for Trump to say what he did about Russia to Dr. Merkel.

I have a huge bias against Russia. Not the people. The government. And I always will have because I like it that way.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 06:00 AM

8. Putin is older than Merkel.

How is it that she is described as an old woman, while Putin is referred to as virile??

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Response to LisaM (Reply #8)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 06:56 AM

18. I wondered about that too.

Okay, well, not "wondered" but I did fume about it.

Women are "old" when they cease being attractive to lecherous males. Men are "old" when lecherous males don't feel threatened by them.

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Response to kag (Reply #18)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 07:51 AM

26. So true, so sadly true.

Maybe Trump is the last noisy vestige of the old mind set. Or maybe he will be seen as just a reinvigoration of it?

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 06:02 AM

9. He's making her look weak to her voters so putin can run a right wing candidate against her.

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Response to rainin (Reply #9)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 06:24 AM

14. Ding

Stating the obvious, not sure why people got to dance around and try to do gymnastics to come up with other rationales.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 06:16 AM

10. though you may be channeling Trump, I take offense to referring to Merkel as an "old woman"

disgraceful. TRULY

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 06:19 AM

11. - And worst of all: Germany is run by an old woman.

I think this has a lot to do with his attitude. His ego won't allow him to see a woman as an equal as far as political power and/or intellect. He thinks it makes him look weak.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Reply #11)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 08:23 AM

28. Again, you may be channeling, but it is offensive to see DUers refer to Merkel as an "old woman"

without quotation marks. It is offensive and enables such misogynistic attitudes.

Not meaning to be rude to you Arkansas Granny, as I think I know what you meant, but it is distressing to see Duers feed into this.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 06:20 AM

12. Because his grandfather died in WWII

Fell out of a guard tower.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 06:22 AM

13. 'Cause Merkel and Obama got along so well.

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Response to betsuni (Reply #13)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 06:30 AM

15. That's a biggie. nt

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 06:37 AM

16. Trump hates Germany because Putin told him to hate Germany and because Angela Merkel is a female

If Germany's Chancellor was a douchebag who reminded Trump of his father, he would be trying to win his love too, just as he's doing with Putin and Kim Jong-un.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 06:37 AM

17. Did he get denied a business dealing at some point in the past?

This prick is vindictive and is using the office to punish anyone who ever crossed him.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 07:26 AM

19. it's Merkel - she refuses to be subservient to him

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 07:28 AM

20. And Germany takes care of its people, thereby making GOP-style fascism look even worse.

They're also yooge donors to international aid and relief - another Cheeto pet peeve.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 07:29 AM

21. Because,,,,,,,,

Germany whupped the dookey out Russia in WW2,,,!

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 07:30 AM

22. Merkel is "uppity," but is straight, and would not stab America in the back

Putin tells Trump what he wants to hear, lies, and manipulates Trump like a puppet. Putin will stab Trump (and us) in the back the second it's convenient.

Trump prefers Putin's style. The scary part is that a third of America does, too.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 07:31 AM

23. Putin is telling Trump to ruin NATO to start divisions within Germany.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 07:42 AM

24. "Russia is famous for its... beautiful women"

And Germany isn't?

My suspicion is that the problem the tiny orange one has with German women, is that any German ladies he has ever encountered have made it clear that they wouldn't touch his sweaty form with a ten-foot barge pole.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 08:00 AM

27. Plus Merkel really liked Obama and it was mutual

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 08:48 AM

29. Germany (Bavaria) deported his grandfather for being a criminal draft dodger.

I think that is also why he's so obsessed with immigrants.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 08:53 AM

30. Because he's a corrupt criminal like

His grandfather was, and also putin wants this done to hurt our allies with now. trump and putin are terrorists, and anti Democracy promoters, Germany isn't. They and other allies should remove trump from any more meetings , and reject our membership in anything by sending the republican leaders a heads up , stop him now or they'll not be our ally anymore, because trump sure as hell isn't there's, and he'll bypass Congress soon to stop them also.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 01:25 PM

31. this is kind of a dumb list

the answer is as Plissken says in #16 - he hates Germany because Putin told him to destroy NATO.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 01:26 PM

32. he hates strong women.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 01:48 PM

33. he hates

women with power. period

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 01:59 PM

34. Germany also really frowns on those who Trump calls "fine people"

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