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Wed Jul 11, 2018, 08:16 PM

 

Was I a bit uncivil?

I live in a very historic rural Virginia county. In the village that is our county seat, there's a complex of historic uildings, all dating back to 1740-1760: tavern/inn; blacksmith's forge; jail; couple of outbuildings. Also a few restored buildings. We have a blacksmith guild as well as guilds for woodworking, weaving, spinning, and cooking. A gift shop in the inn features products made by our weaves, quilters, blacksmiths, etc.

Two mornings a week I volunteer as dishwasher at the tavern restaurant.

I was washing dishes this morning, took a break to use the men's room. There, on a chair inside the door, was a MAGA Trump cap.

When I went to the men's room three hours later, the cap was still there.

I picked up the cap, put it in the urinal . . . and pissed on it. Left it there.

Was I uncivil?

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Sam McGee Jul 11 OP
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LuckyCharms Jul 11 #2
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CaliforniaPeggy Jul 11 #3
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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 08:19 PM

1. It wasn't a period hat

And considering how offensive it was, I think you did the right thing.

As long as you didn't clog the urinal.

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 08:19 PM

2. No. This is fine to do.

It would have been maybe slightly uncivil if you pooped on it though.

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Response to LuckyCharms (Reply #2)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 08:38 PM

8. Well done, well done indeed.

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Response to LuckyCharms (Reply #2)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 11:18 PM

47. Only uncivil if he pooped on it in the urinal

Pooping on it in the toilet is acceptable.

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 08:20 PM

3. Not a bit uncivil, Sam McGee! Good for you.

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 08:20 PM

4. Not uncivil, but hey, what did that urinal ever do to you to deserve that kind of treatment? nt

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 08:22 PM

5. Only if your form was bad.

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 08:23 PM

6. Your symbolic action......

Reflects what Donald Trump is doing to the United States as a whole. Trump is pissing on the United States, the rule of law, the Flag, our allies, and so much more.

You are a Patriot because you love this country and what it means to you. I wish more would do what you are doing, piss ing on Trump symbols.

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 08:35 PM

7. You're a true patriot, sir. My hats off to your excellent aim. nt

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 08:42 PM

9. Not uncivil but how about the poor cleaning person?

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 08:44 PM

10. What did that poor urine do to serve that? lol

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 08:45 PM

11. .

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 08:46 PM

12. Nothing to worry about.

Most people would have done the same thing in those circumstances.

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 08:57 PM

13. I've cleaned enough urinals in my life to have earned the right to call you a dickhead.

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Response to johnp3907 (Reply #13)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 09:40 PM

18. I agree

I don't get the strange desire of people here to see this behavior as okay. It's boorish behavior at best.

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Response to johnp3907 (Reply #13)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 10:07 PM

26. I've cleaned enough urinals in MY life to have the right to say, "Lighten up, Francis."

17 years of housekeeping. In gyms.



I'd've left the hat, at least until the end of my shift.

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 09:03 PM

14. You were a perfect gentleman.

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 09:10 PM

15. splatter screens are expensive u save the restaurant some cash nt

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 09:18 PM

16. As long as no one was wearing it at the time. . . .

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 09:38 PM

17. Did you manage to cross both A's?

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 09:41 PM

19. The only way that would have been uncivil is if you had blamed it on the dog.

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 09:46 PM

20. Love it!!




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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 09:55 PM

21. Borderline uncivil..l if the guy is still wearing it when you're peeing

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 09:57 PM

22. I would have doused it....

after finding it the first time. You're a saint!

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 09:58 PM

23. Not at all. I think you were just making the MAGA hat great again.

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 10:00 PM

24. I have penis envy for the first time e-vah! nt

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 10:06 PM

25. At this point you're just being a patriotic American. That hat means Traitor.

And we've all got to let them hear it. They talk tough, like they want conflict. It's a primal dance all less-evolved humans do, but they are definitely less-than when it comes to the Real Thing. Slow, gullible, opposed to adaptation and critical thinking -- if the rest of us weren't helping them out they'd all be dead.

That posturing is their weakness, because they've made it impossible to back down. No retreats or regrouping allowed this time. 'Give us autocracy or give us death!' They're demanding to be the dominant tribe in a Strong Man tribal-style government (MAGA!) but they're all so less-than. Plus, crimes. Big traitorous crimes. Giant, historic, monstrous crimes.

Anyway. Nonviolence is best, of course. But a man's gotta do --

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 10:07 PM

27. Perfect display of civil discourse. Love it.

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 10:18 PM

28. Yorktown pub?

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 10:19 PM

29. I wouldn't have waited 3 hours.

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 10:29 PM

30. yes...

only in that you didn't do it right away.

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 10:30 PM

31. Yes. But I think I'm with you.

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 10:31 PM

32. You were uncivil.

Still, I'd buy you a beer.

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Response to BluesRunTheGame (Reply #32)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 10:35 PM

36. After a few beers, you'd both have to run to the urinal.

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Response to NBachers (Reply #36)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 10:47 PM

39. Exactly...

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 10:31 PM

33. I've done plenty of urinal cleaning, and I would approve of this move. It's easy enough to get out.

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 10:32 PM

34. Three hours? A model of restraint.

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 10:34 PM

35. Hey, when you gotta go. You gotta go. nt

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 10:38 PM

37. This country was born of domestic terrorism; what you did was civil.

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 10:42 PM

38. Your actions were completely within the bounds of...

modern magacivility. Easily.

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 10:51 PM

40. Yes, you were.

But you made me chuckle. So if it was my courtroom, you'd get off with a slap on the wrist.

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 10:53 PM

41. If I ever find a MAGAT hat....

I'll get my very best Clauss shop scissors and cut it into a thousand little pieces, then have a ceremonial burning.

And then, I'll mail the ashes to Sarah Huckabuck Slanders.

...............

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 11:07 PM

42. Did you wash after you handled......

...the cap? That would be the civil thing to do--prevent the spread of germs or disease to your genitalia...........

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 11:12 PM

43. As long as there's no chance you'd be "caught" or they knew it was you, GOOD JOB!!!!

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Response to George II (Reply #43)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 11:47 PM

50. Yes, that seems to be the spirit of the "resistance" here on du lately.

Turn magazines around, give people dirty looks if you disapprove of what you hear in a store, hide remote controls (or reprogram them). Pissing on a stranger’s hat is a new one for me.

But by no means, stand up for what you believe where anyone can see you. How brave, how noble.

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 11:14 PM

44. I also had a few toilet cleaning gigs

 

I appreciate the sentiment, but the execution here leaves somebody else (one of your coworkers?) fishing a pissy hat out of a urinal. So, 8 out of 10 on substance, 3 out of 10 on style.

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 11:14 PM

45. Personally, I'd have just tossed it in the trash.

But you did what you felt was warranted.

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 11:15 PM

46. No.

I would have crapped on it if I saw it.

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 11:23 PM

48. I say the Spirit in the Sky

Approves!

lol You couldn't resist.. but you were RESISTING!

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 11:41 PM

49. Personally, I think that is gross. Someone has to clean that urinal, meaning they have to get it out

of there. Since the hat was there for three hours, the owner must have inadvertently left it behind.
So that person will never know of your courageous act of resistance, will they?

Since I am female, I really do not know what it would be like to find a hat in a urinal, but it would sicken me to see it in a toilet.

What did you accomplish?

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 11:54 PM

51. Unless George Washington

Wore it, so your good.

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 11:56 PM

52. I love it so much I think we should all purchase (as cheap as possible) a bunch of MAGA hats ...

And start placing them in urinals all over the country, pissing on them, and leaving them there ...

Those of you who wanna whinge all 'zomg, someone has to CLEAN that' ... nobody at any job should ever have to dig into a urinal and remove 'things' without a pair of gloves, every business provides them for people who have to do 'cleanup'. It's not THAT big of a deal, with gloves on, to remove it and toss it. SO FAR from the worst someone who cleans bathrooms has to deal with on a regular basis.

I think it'd be an awesome form of protest, myself.

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 12:01 AM

53. Urine good company.

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 12:54 AM

54. Not in the least, IMO.

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 01:08 AM

55. Next time piss on it while it's still on someone's head. That would be uncivil...

but still completely appropriate.

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 12:24 PM

56. Uncivil and immature.

You asked for opinions, you got ‘em. Vengeance, especially in the form of crude acts, never serves a legitimate purpose. I never understood why people find comfort in that.

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 12:28 PM

57. Urinate? Well, you were an 8 until you pissed on the hat. Now, you're a 10.

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 01:58 PM

58. I wish you had snapped a "after picture".

That would of been a real pissah!

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 02:35 PM

59. Sounds like Williamsburg.

Wonderful place to visit.

I think what you did was juvenile, however.

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Response to Sam McGee (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 05:17 PM

60. Would have thrown it in the trash myself so as to not make more work for the person cleaning.

Or I might have gotten a magic marker and made a few notes on the cap and put it back where it was left, just in case the owner returned.

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