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Wed Jul 11, 2018, 09:38 AM

Mike Pompeo reportedly admits NK meeting was a disaster: It went 'as badly as it could have gone'

TANA GANEVA
10 JUL 2018 AT 17:53 ET

As President Donald Trump’s one-on-one meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin approaches, Russia experts are growing increasingly anxious that he’ll blow the opportunity.

On Tuesday, CNN reported that Secretary of State Mark Pompeo, who’d helped oversee Donald Trump’s meeting with King Jong-un, thinks that his own meeting with the North Korean officials had not gone according to plan.

According to sources, Pompeo said it went “as badly as it could have gone.”

Watch the full report below from CNN:



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https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/mike-pompeo-admits-north-korea-meeting-disaster-went-badly-gone/

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Reply Mike Pompeo reportedly admits NK meeting was a disaster: It went 'as badly as it could have gone' (Original post)
DonViejo Wednesday OP
Crutchez_CuiBono Wednesday #1
Sherman A1 Wednesday #2
Girard442 Wednesday #3
brush Wednesday #4
jmowreader Wednesday #5
7962 Friday #19
lame54 Wednesday #6
HipChick Thursday #14
keithbvadu2 Wednesday #7
gratuitous Wednesday #8
Hekate Wednesday #9
Marcuse Thursday #17
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Wednesday #10
Vinca Wednesday #11
soryang Wednesday #12
Firestorm49 Thursday #13
sakabatou Thursday #15
DallasNE Thursday #16
Demovictory9 Thursday #18
7962 Friday #20

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 09:47 AM

1. Yeah....big fricken circus.

Eltons song was'nt 'little rocket man.' Nice try to blame your ugliness on just a song.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 09:47 AM

2. So I am guessing that the whole Summit

was not perchance such a good idea after all?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 10:00 AM

3. "as badly as it could have gone."

Wrong. There's always a worse. Like, f'rinstance, huge radioactive craters.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 11:33 AM

4. What a bunch of stupid, blundering idiots. They wanted to gift...

Un with a CD to what...remind him of the insulting nickname trump called him as he threaten to rain down nukes on NK?

Who the fuck thought that was a good idea?

Oh, right. trump did. And they have no clue why the trip went so badly.

Is there no one with any competence in that shit show administration?

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Response to brush (Reply #4)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 11:41 AM

5. The closest thing to competent is Mattis

Trump doesn’t fuck with Mattis. I think it has to do with Mattis being able to convene a firing squad on 20 minutes’ notice.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #5)

Fri Jul 13, 2018, 07:11 AM

19. And notice that he's also the most successful of the cabinet members, as I can tell.

Trump doesnt mess with him, and so he's able to do his damn job.
Trump meddling insures failure

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 12:08 PM

6. This is only going to make Trump think...

He is the only one capable getting results

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Response to lame54 (Reply #6)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 10:29 AM

14. Or a way to distance himself from blame...

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 12:39 PM

7. "had not gone according to plan" - It went fine according to NK's plan.

"had not gone according to plan" - It went fine according to NK's plan.

Don't forget.... Donald said Kim was "very honorable".

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 12:43 PM

8. The U.S. got squat-ah

North Korea, on the other hand, got a face-to-face meeting with the President of the United States, credibility on the world stage, and acknowledgment of the legitimacy of the Kim dictatorship, which the Kim family has craved for generations. And Kim barely had to leave his own time zone to make the American president come halfway around the world to meet with him.

Heckuva job, Trumpy. If only someone had warned you that North Korea's word was not to be trusted. Well, someone other than the entire diplomatic corps, present and past. Dipshit.

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #8)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 12:47 PM

9. This is exactly the case. nt

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #8)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 11:25 PM

17. The worth of a meeting with the POTUS in terms of credibility, acknowledgement and legitimacy ...

has been greatly devalued since Obama. No amount of flags, coins and military parades can change that. At least we got three live Americans back from the Norks.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 01:55 PM

10. Are we tired of winning yet?

More Drumpf lowered expectations.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 01:57 PM

11. You think? Kim opted for a potato picking photo op instead of meeting with Pompeo.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 04:18 PM

12. Pompeo backed off from his own negotiating strategy which induced the summit

And returned to a hard line approach in the face of the storm of criticisms from the opposed interests in the US.

Allegedly a major failing of the talks was Pompeo's unresponsiveness to the proposal to have the US jointly declare an end to the Korean conflict on the anniversary of the Armistice. This would be a let down from the previous promise of "security guarantees," implied in Pompeo's CVIG formula. (Complete Verifiable Irreversible Guarantee of North Korean security.)

Some of the language in the official announcement from the North Korean foreign ministry is very similar to Kim Gae Kwan's apologia for Choi Son Hui published on May 24, 2018, which suggests that demands for unilateral nuclear disarmament from the US are a sensitive point for North Korea. ref: http://www.nkleadershipwatch.org/2018/05/25/kim-kye-gwan-issues-statement-on-us-dprk-summit/

On the other hand, North Korea backed off then and the summit went on. So Christopher Hill or whoever said it, was right, it's probably a negotiating tactic. It is also for domestic consumption in North Korea.

The North Korean foreign ministry statement reveals that the essential difference is still the same, the one bundle approach of the US, versus the step by step, reciprocal moves by both sides that the North Koreans want. However, the North should have taken a substantial step or steps after the US suspended military exercises. By unilaterally suspending the joint military exercises with South Korea, the US suggested implicitly that a tit for tat approach to building trust, and eliminating the nuclear threat could be managed. However, two things happened at the meeting in Pyongyang, Pompeo reverted to the CVID type approach, calling it FFVD, which is a distinction with only a nominal difference, and the North failed to reciprocate to the US South Korean suspension of military exercises, ironically criticizing it as "reversible." Pompeo's public statement in rebuttal of the gangster charge emphasized the one sided nature of the demand for denuclearization by the international community.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 10:24 AM

13. "As badly as it could have gone"

If this statement is factual or questionable, the one true fact remains that the good old US of A gave them everything that they, the Russians and the Chinese have wanted for years.

Boy, that’s some pretty sharp negotiating.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 02:40 PM

15. No shit

Trump was played

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 04:59 PM

16. So, Why Then Did Pompeo Lie To The American People

By boasting about how well the negotiations went. It seems that if it were not for North Korea setting the record straight we would never have learned this. Sick.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 11:27 PM

18. the whole point was to get a nobel prize for trump

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Response to Demovictory9 (Reply #18)

Fri Jul 13, 2018, 07:11 AM

20. STILL talked about on social media. Ugh. nt

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