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Fri Jul 6, 2018, 02:50 PM

Trump is set to separate more than 200,000 U.S.-born children from their parents

By Mark L. Schneider
July 6 at 12:08 PM

Mark L. Schneider is a senior adviser at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, former director of the U.S. Peace Corps, and former head of Latin America and the Caribbean at USAID.

If you think the last few weeks of separating 2,300 children from their migrant parents along the southern border were heart-wrenching, imagine if 273,000 American-born children are separated from parents whose temporary protected status (TPS) is terminated. That is what could happen if the Trump administration’s decision to revoke TPS for Haitians, Salvadorans and Hondurans is allowed to take effect.

Despite President Trump’s executive order reversing his policy of separating migrant families, most of those 2,300 children have not been returned to their parents. That is truly unconscionable.

More than 100 times that number of children — all U.S. citizens — will be placed in similar jeopardy if the Department of Homeland Security begins programs to deport more than 58,000 Haitians on July 22, 2019, more than 262,000 Salvadorans on Sept. 9, 2019, and 86,000 Hondurans on Jan. 5, 2020. Parents will be faced with the decision of whether to take their children — most of whom speak mainly English and know only life in this country — back to countries deemed by the State Department as not safe for travel, some with the highest homicide rates in the hemisphere.

Otherwise, parents will have to leave their children alone in the United States or, if they’re lucky, with relatives, or foster parents who they may or may not know, or some with “adult sponsors” chosen by federal agencies. The only other choice available to those parents would be to hide in the shadows as undocumented aliens. And that is what the ambassadors to the United States from El Salvador and Honduras, during an event at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), predicted that most families would attempt. And DHS would undoubtedly begin a massive hunt for them.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2018/07/06/trump-is-set-to-separate-more-than-200000-u-s-born-children-from-their-parents/

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Reply Trump is set to separate more than 200,000 U.S.-born children from their parents (Original post)
DonViejo Jul 2018 OP
Solly Mack Jul 2018 #1
Ilsa Jul 2018 #2
iluvtennis Jul 2018 #5
joshdawg Jul 2018 #24
Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #3
Bettie Jul 2018 #7
democrank Jul 2018 #4
geardaddy Jul 2018 #6
mr_lebowski Jul 2018 #28
geardaddy Jul 2018 #46
grantcart Jul 2018 #8
awesomerwb1 Jul 2018 #11
grantcart Jul 2018 #29
C Moon Jul 2018 #9
Still In Wisconsin Jul 2018 #12
appalachiablue Jul 2018 #21
awesomerwb1 Jul 2018 #10
videohead5 Jul 2018 #13
PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2018 #25
sweetroxie Jul 2018 #14
bdamomma Jul 2018 #18
northoftheborder Jul 2018 #15
bdamomma Jul 2018 #16
PaulX2 Jul 2018 #17
Luz Jul 2018 #19
awesomerwb1 Jul 2018 #26
Initech Jul 2018 #20
smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #22
dalton99a Jul 2018 #38
stuffmatters Jul 2018 #23
JHB Jul 2018 #43
stuffmatters Jul 2018 #45
workinclasszero Jul 2018 #27
scarletwoman Jul 2018 #30
SunSeeker Jul 2018 #32
workinclasszero Jul 2018 #44
yuiyoshida Jul 2018 #31
SunSeeker Jul 2018 #33
yuiyoshida Jul 2018 #37
suffragette Jul 2018 #34
N_E_1 for Tennis Jul 2018 #35
sellitman Jul 2018 #36
dalton99a Jul 2018 #39
KentuckyWoman Jul 2018 #40
McCamy Taylor Jul 2018 #41
superpatriotman Jul 2018 #42

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Jul 6, 2018, 02:54 PM

1. K&R

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Jul 6, 2018, 02:58 PM

2. It is time for people of good conscience to defy his orders.

Supervisors, leaders, ministers, people need to get involved in stopping this.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #2)

Fri Jul 6, 2018, 03:37 PM

5. Good conscience is the key descriptor - Trump's minions don't possess that quality.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #2)

Fri Jul 6, 2018, 05:17 PM

24. Seems that should have happened in February of 2017.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Jul 6, 2018, 03:20 PM

3. Surely it can be blocked, because when GOVMT terminates TPS, that does NOT make them all criminals.


I would think it surely can be blocked, because when government terminates TPS, that does not make them all criminals instantly. The "criminal" or "suspect criminal" status is what has been used to separate children from parents ...

... during the Trump Child Abductions of 2017-18.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #3)

Fri Jul 6, 2018, 03:43 PM

7. Except that this regime

doesn't care what the law says.

They'll just round people up and send them out of the country without any sort of due process.

And he recently said that he wasn't sure if children born here are actually citizens...so he'll sign some idiotic executive order stating that they aren't and deport everyone while it winds its way to the SCOTUS where Gorsuck and friends will rule that only white, Russian anchor babies are legitimate citizens.

What scares me is that while this is meant as hyperbole...it could really go that way, pretty easily.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Jul 6, 2018, 03:37 PM

4. Kick

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Jul 6, 2018, 03:39 PM

6. The numbers listed in the text of the article actually add up to more than 400,000

The headline should be more accurate.

What a disgusting piece of rotting garbage the BLOTUS is.

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Response to geardaddy (Reply #6)

Fri Jul 6, 2018, 06:12 PM

28. Over 400K adults and 200K children of those adults is reason for disparity (nt)

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Response to mr_lebowski (Reply #28)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 08:58 AM

46. Ah, ok, thanks!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Jul 6, 2018, 03:56 PM

8. I have been posting about this dozens of times

The best sourced data I have found so far is 20,000 US born kids. It is still criminal.

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Response to grantcart (Reply #8)

Fri Jul 6, 2018, 04:04 PM

11. Your number is way way way too low.

TPS applicants were higher than those listed at one point. Over time some have obtained green cards through family etc.

The number is very close to 200,000 US born kids or more.

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Response to awesomerwb1 (Reply #11)

Fri Jul 6, 2018, 06:52 PM

29. typo, should have read 200,000, thanks


The attached link has the first country by country estimates and dwarfs the 2500 which has generated so much deserved attention.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Jul 6, 2018, 03:59 PM

9. Part of this, I think, is to get rid of possible Democratic votes....

by scaring legal citizens away from the booths in November.

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Response to C Moon (Reply #9)

Fri Jul 6, 2018, 04:20 PM

12. I am absolutely certain that this is partly about suppression of the Democratic vote.

 

It's also about purging the country of young non-white people in order to prevent further growth of what many see as the Democratic base.

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Response to C Moon (Reply #9)

Fri Jul 6, 2018, 05:06 PM

21. +1

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Jul 6, 2018, 04:00 PM

10. These TPS people

have been in the US working legally, opening businesses and paying taxes for 20 years or more as is the case with Honduras(2020). 18 years for El Salvador(2019) and other countries maybe a little bit less.

Every 18 months they go through an FBI fingerprint biometrics background check and pay $400-$500 for processing.

So when their last TPS expires , they'll revert back to being undocumented. No more driver's licenses, no more work permits. So DHS and all agencies have their addresses etc. Easy pickings for ICE. Devastating for them and their families.



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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Jul 6, 2018, 04:26 PM

13. How much money

Is it going to cost for the federal government to take care of all of those kids?..this is really stupid.

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Response to videohead5 (Reply #13)

Fri Jul 6, 2018, 05:20 PM

25. Ohh, but think of all the jobs

that will be created to take care of those kids! Win-win, right?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Jul 6, 2018, 04:26 PM

14. God! Can no one stop this Monster?!

Caligula's power and madness is escalating.

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Response to sweetroxie (Reply #14)

Fri Jul 6, 2018, 04:55 PM

18. Not no one

a lot of somebodies, a question would you sacrifice your life for your country in your own country?? WE have a sick POS who stole the Presidency through an evil adversary Putin who now he says he's FINE??? Is everyone ready to speak Russian??? Those who do you can translate.

Yes I am angry, fuck. sweetroxie, I am not invoking you in my comment.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Jul 6, 2018, 04:38 PM

15. This makes me sick, literally.

Who or what can stop this raving maniac before he utterly destroys our country.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Jul 6, 2018, 04:47 PM

16. that

number of children are 3,000 now number of children who have committed no crimes on the subject of asylum , children have been moved to baby jails away from their parents. We have a very sick problem and his name is DONALD TRUMP!!! Don't let this POS set the narrative.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Jul 6, 2018, 04:53 PM

17. Bastards

 

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Jul 6, 2018, 05:03 PM

19. Are we really building camps and rounding up people???

While I sit here in my air conditioned room waiting to vote in November? I feel completely helpless, I don't know what I can do.

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Response to Luz (Reply #19)

Fri Jul 6, 2018, 05:24 PM

26. Write postcards, get on Twitter and retweet good articles and counter the lies

Call your representatives. Vote early and organize so you can bring friends to vote as well.

Get mad and get active.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Jul 6, 2018, 05:04 PM

20. This is where I draw the line.

Now we are getting into acts of war and crimes against humanity. Fuck this piece of shit administration.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Jul 6, 2018, 05:11 PM

22. He is a cancer on this nation that needs to be removed.

It can't happen soon enough. It just gets worse and worse. I honestly don't think a scenario like Nazi Germany is all that far away.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #22)

Sat Jul 7, 2018, 12:14 PM

38. +1. He is a cancer on humanity.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Jul 6, 2018, 05:16 PM

23. Trump is determined to make America a more brutal, inhumane and dangerous country.

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Response to stuffmatters (Reply #23)

Sat Jul 7, 2018, 02:10 PM

43. Not only that. He's determined to play to the Republican base...

...which is just as determined to make America a more brutal, in humane, and dangerous country.

All of them. Not just the ones who drive the direction, but the ones who ar3 OK with going along with it.

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Response to JHB (Reply #43)

Sat Jul 7, 2018, 04:25 PM

45. This is how you kill a democracy; it's been the Repub uber lords (Kochs) agenda all along.

Their decades long propaganda machine has brainwashed enough of the "rabble" and they have now seized total control of all three branches of our govt. Trump, the perfect puppet to unite all the major Repug parts (from their fellow US oligarchs, the for profit "Christian"machine to Putin) and the kick their war on democracy into full throttle.


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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Jul 6, 2018, 05:50 PM

27. Funny how the "pro-life" party and it's fascist leader

 

love to terrorize little brown skinned children and their parents.

They absolutely LOVE IT! This is a crime against humanity!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Jul 6, 2018, 07:51 PM

30. Ethnic cleansing. That's what this is all about.

The trump regime is determined to reduce the non-white population of the U.S. by any means necessary.

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Response to scarletwoman (Reply #30)

Sat Jul 7, 2018, 01:17 AM

32. That is exactly what it is.

And a crime against humanity.

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Response to scarletwoman (Reply #30)

Sat Jul 7, 2018, 02:39 PM

44. Agree

 

Trump needs to stand in shackles before the world court to answer for his crimes against children someday soon hopefully.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Jul 6, 2018, 07:55 PM

31. But wait, if he deports all Hondurans, Haitians and Salvadorans than what group is next?

Is he going to try to send Asians "back to china" or Blacks "back to Africa"...is HE really trying ot "Make America White again"??

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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #31)

Sat Jul 7, 2018, 01:28 AM

33. But this is what's so weird. America was never all white.

They want to go back to a time that never was.

American was originally populated by Native Americans. Northern Europeans colonized the east coast, but Spain colonized the west. African slaves and Chinese workers were bought in to build this country and work its fields.

I guess what they really want is to go back to a time when people of color were seen but not heard.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #33)

Sat Jul 7, 2018, 12:10 PM

37. They really want it white only...

and everyone else to be deported except that many of us were born here. My family of Hawaiians go back centuries. And Hawaii was ours to begin with, you know they won't let that state go back to being what it was.

also stupid people think Hawaii was like Puerto Rico, is another country, not a US territory but of course it really is a part of America.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jul 7, 2018, 01:44 AM

34. K&R

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jul 7, 2018, 06:26 AM

35. K&R...

These atrocities need to be at the top of every news cycle. Spread these stories around as much as possible. Keep the outrage going till and past November.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jul 7, 2018, 06:31 AM

36. Only Hitler topped this evil fuck

So far....

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jul 7, 2018, 12:17 PM

39. And not a beep from Republicans in Congress

or anywhere else

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jul 7, 2018, 12:20 PM

40. Congress MUST fix this

They make the federal laws.

They confirm the SCOTUS so we have judges that will provide a true check and balance against a president who goes off the ranch.

Impeachment is also a tool congress can use to enforce human rights in this country.

I am on a bitchfest... yes I said it... BITCHFEST. Every federal elected official is going to get an earful whether they want to hear it or not until this changes.

Period.

Edit to add.... dear Republicans......... family values my ass. Shut the fuck up.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jul 7, 2018, 01:15 PM

41. This is child snatching!

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See my thread. I did the math. Up to $100 billion for people like Betsy De Vos. This is being done for the money. The for profit adoption industry will have a field day. So will child sex traffickers.

Trump has no shame.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jul 7, 2018, 01:54 PM

42. Here's an idea


CRS data provded by USCIS

Wyoming - 73
North Dakota - 115
Alaska - 120
Idaho - 225
Maine - 207
Montana - 35
South Dakota - 272

That's a lot of land mass that is empty. See where I'm going with this?

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