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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsnot that this is at all significant but. . . a FORTY YEAR OLD in a PUNK band? really???
isn't he just a bit old?
yes, I know how serious the situation is, but that part just struck me as odd.
hack89
(39,171 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Although, guitars alone are perfect at any age.
hack89
(39,171 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)Punk is about attitude.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,276 posts)When he wasn't performing at white supremacist music festivals he was probably posting on Freerepublic. Wonder if they've scrubbed him yet?
MattBaggins
(7,894 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,276 posts)punk band and covering yourself with Nazi tattoos makes you a pathetic loser. I suspect that genre makes Norwegian black metal sound like Beethoven and Dimmu Borgir worthy of a Grammy.
MattBaggins
(7,894 posts)I am a little surprised that people here think punk isn't music for older folks despite the fact that it has been around since the 70s.
White supremacist is pretty stupid but there is nothing wrong with a 40 year old liking punk music.
amandabeech
(9,893 posts)and Robin Lane and the Chart Busters at a converted bowling alley in Hartford, CT.
RIP all Ramone brothers!
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Both were drummers of various eras.
amandabeech
(9,893 posts)I remember both of those guys.
Actually, I met Johnny once back in the '80s in NY. My friend Ed and I were having a drink at a bar in Chelsea. A couple came in, and Ed and the guy started talking baseball. Both Johnny and his wife were very nice, although they didn't identify themselves, and I said nothing.
After they left, I told Ed who they were. All Ed would say was that Johnny knew baseball. That was Ed's ultimate compliment. He wasn't that much into music!
One of my cousins is a big Ramones fan. He was in mourning when Joey passed. I was sad, too.
Three minutes and three chords sure could be thrilling.
Chorophyll
(5,179 posts)Not being an adult in a rock band. FFS.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,276 posts)as white supremacist punk rock, and I don't care how old you are when you play in that kind of band. Ick.
Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)I know a few. Some are even talented. None are white supremecists (although one is a 'former' neo-Nazi...he got better).
eShirl
(18,466 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,276 posts)Except that they've always been good.
niyad
(112,434 posts)serously, though. limited as my knowledge of that particular genre of music is, the word "punk" evokes the image of someone younger than legal adult age.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)MattBaggins
(7,894 posts)slackmaster
(60,567 posts)They still rock.
Tikki
(14,537 posts)still....
Tikki
MattBaggins
(7,894 posts)as being the predecessor to Punk.
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Tikki
(14,537 posts)Tikki
Lint Head
(15,064 posts)Back in the 60's I saw Question Mark and the Mysterians live in Greenville, South Carolina with the Dick Clark Caravan of Stars tour.
amandabeech
(9,893 posts)I loved Fang the basist!
Too bad that they didn't play where I saw Q. (see below)
That video must be from Dick Clark's daily after school show "Where the Action Is." I couldn't wait for it to come on in the late afternoon.
I don't remember whether it was before or after "Dark Shadows."
What memories!!
Tikki
(14,537 posts)coming through town ringing them bells.....
"stomp and shout now and work it all out, child"
Tikki
amandabeech
(9,893 posts)I can picture Paul Revere bopping up and down at his keyboard with the fluffy stuff edging his tricorn going up and down!
Rhino Records put out two CD's of Louie, Louie versions. I have them, but this version isn't on it. They did put in a Big State U marching band and the Mormon Tabernacle Choir, though!
Them were the days!
Thanks so much for posting these, Tikki!
amandabeech
(9,893 posts)They played the local roller rink in the town south of the one that I grew up on.,
My grad school roommate's friend from undergrad married Q's first cousin.
Those guys were from Saginaw, Michigan, former home of Saginaw Steering Gear.
bongbong
(5,436 posts)I consider the Holy Modal Rounders and/or the Fugs to be the earliest prototypes for punk. Maybe not the beat, but most certainly the sentiment.
Jerry Lee Lewis marrying his minor cousin in 1957 was pretty punk...
Throd
(7,208 posts)Not that 96 Tears wasn't cool or anything...
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)A few weeks ago. Yeah they were old but really good. They are probably pushing 60.
MattBaggins
(7,894 posts)although she really isn't truly punk.
Tikki
(14,537 posts)Last time this May and many times in between.
The Tikkis
zappaman
(20,605 posts)My friend's band The Muffs opened/
Both bands fucking rocked.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)niyad
(112,434 posts)Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)I know a few semiprofessional punk musicians around that age who're doing perfectly well with their own lives, mostly splitting their time between their music and a trade.
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)and I'm 48.
I loved them in the 80s and I love them still.
Although a lot of them are crossover/thrash and death metal, some of them started out as hardcore punk.
None of my favorite bands (or even bands I like) were ever nazi/white supremacist bands though.
Punk ain't no religious cult
Punk means thinking for yourself
You ain't hardcore cos you spike your hair
When a jock still lives inside your head
Nazi punks
Nazi punks
Nazi punks-Fuck Off!
Nazi punks
Nazi punks
Nazi punks-Fuck Off!
If you've come to fight, get outa here
You ain't no better than the bouncers
We ain't trying to be police
When you ape the cops it ain't anarchy
[Repeat chorus]
Ten guys jump one, what a man
You fight each other, the police state wins
Stab your backs when you trash our halls
Trash a bank if you've got real balls
You still think swastikas look cool
The real nazis run your schools
They're coaches, businessmen and cops
In a real fourth reich you'll be the first to go
[Repeat chorus]
You'll be the first to go
You'll be the first to go
You'll be the first to go
Unless you think
and a cover of the same song by one of my favorite metal bands
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)but he might have been in various bands for a long time prior to that.
It is rather late if he's just starting out, but the punk style lends itself easily to beginners. Think of The Ramones.
JI7
(89,173 posts)niyad
(112,434 posts)RebelOne
(30,947 posts)that you must be a punk kid. What are you, a teenager?
niyad
(112,434 posts)seemed to me to be something much younger people do.
a teenager? you are so cute. I have clothing older than that murdering thug.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)niyad
(112,434 posts)the image of someone in his teens.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)asthmaticeog
(15,705 posts)...on which practitioners of art forms other than rock music are subject to ridicule for continuing to make their art as they age?
Nope, got nothin'. Rip on the guy for being a murdering racist scumbag, not for being a musician.
frylock
(34,825 posts)i'm 46. at what point do you suggest that i stop liking everything i enjoy and start wearing black socks with my sandals and listening to perry como?
MattBaggins
(7,894 posts)And that's loafers with plaid golf shorts
leaderless, lordless and loud...
Tikki
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)RebelOne
(30,947 posts)Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I don't really like kids music. There doesn't seem to be a lot of new music for us older folks that remember when all music wasn't bubble gum chewing music for tweenie bops.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)RZM
(8,556 posts)(up-tempo jazz intro)
'I'd like to welcome everybody to the fabulous Double Swastika club. How about that opening act people? Let's give a round of applause to Eva Braun and the Hitlerettes. Weren't they great? Me and the boys almost didn't make it here tonight . . . the bar mitzvah we were playing ran late (cymbal crash). But seriously folks, it's great to be here. Don't forget to tip your bartenders. And a one, and a two, and a three.'
There are plenty of punk musicians well north of forty. The problem wasn't his age, it was the fact that he was in a neo-nazi band.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)Avalux
(35,015 posts)Just curious because even though a person ages, their taste in music doesn't. At least mine doesn't. Maybe it expands, but I still love what I loved 20 years ago.
We are Devo
(193 posts)RebelOne
(30,947 posts)Lint Head
(15,064 posts)BOG PERSON
(2,916 posts)stevedeshazer
(21,653 posts)Tell that to the Sex Pistols, Ramones, the Stooges, MC5.
spanone
(135,633 posts)Quantess
(27,630 posts)It makes sense considering how long punk has existed. How old is Henry Rollins, anyway?
RZM
(8,556 posts)It was one of those 'man on the street' reactions about punk bar CBGB closing its doors. The guy said that reminiscing about going to punk shows there reminded him that it's time for a prostate exam.
kysrsoze
(6,010 posts)Stinky The Clown
(67,676 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)No, your question is obnoxious, ageist, and just plain ignorant. Times like this I wish DU still had the 'unrec' button.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)especially in Wisconsin.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Chorophyll
(5,179 posts)If this guy being a 40-year-old in a punk band was his only problem, the world would be a better place.
Throd
(7,208 posts)I apparently didn't get the memo that I need to start playing Coldplay.
LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)DO NOT POLLUTE THE WORLD WITH YET...MORE...COLDPLAY!!
zappaman
(20,605 posts)Very good!
Throd
(7,208 posts)Their live album is still one of my favorites.
Throd
(7,208 posts)Not that it really matters...
Apparently, I kept things "real" back in the day, because I can't even remember how old I really am these days.
..
JI7
(89,173 posts)this guy was probalby in a crappy band that made crappy music.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)I've been into punk since I was about ten; I'm 42 now and it was already old when I discovered it.
JI7
(89,173 posts)and she is more teenie bopper bubblegum pop and nothing close to punk .
WolverineDG
(22,298 posts)niyad
(112,434 posts)WolverineDG
(22,298 posts)when today's 40 year old decrepits were teenagers, right?
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)that he was getting too old to be in a punk band
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
former9thward
(31,802 posts)A 40 year old would not be unusual in a punk band. It may not be typical but certainly not unusual.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)If they survive their excesses, they can last a long time.
LTR
(13,227 posts)WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)But still looks older than 54, thanks to those *excesses* mentioned above.
thucythucy
(7,986 posts)a la izquierda
(11,784 posts)Not that he's really in a band anymore, but he's 49.
And I have friends who actively tour the world, and their singer is 46.
Punk isn't about age, it's about social commentary and righting the world's wrongs.
REP
(21,691 posts)And he's a punk rocker.
LTR
(13,227 posts)Sure, there was a bit of punk attitude at times before then, but Iggy and the Stooges and the MC5 were the ones who laid the foundation. They were both as punk as punk can get, and didn't need the mohawks and safety pins either.
Come to think of it, it seems like all the real punk bands consist of members over 40. And no, I don't consider Blink 182 to be punk. They're basically the Jonas Brothers with tattoos and fewer chords.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)stevedeshazer
(21,653 posts)Baby boomer. Started at 23. Born in 55. Solidly smack dab in the middle of the baby boomers, born from 1946-1962.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)What's the age limit?
Punk came on the scene in the lat 70s - some of those people must be one 40 by now.
The Stones are in their late 60s now. Are they supposed to stop?
Sounds like ageism.
stevedeshazer
(21,653 posts)I won't say what I'd like to say to you because I am polite, but your post offends me and displays enormous ignorance about the punk movement, which started in the 1970's when 40 year olds were little kids.
Maybe learn a little bit about the punk rock movement. We changed the world for the better.
Thanks for your concern.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)Being misunderstood is what makes it cool.
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)so I don't think that they'd start playing pop music because they're not 20 anymore.
But the guy was an evil POS in many other ways.. but the punk band thing does't phase me (the fact that it's a hate band, does)
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)stevedeshazer
(21,653 posts)GReedDiamond
(5,299 posts)...the first punk band I was in was started in Los Angeles in 1979. I was in another L.A. band before that, but as a backup vocalist, and later, drummer (which is what I mainly do), but that's a whole 'nother story.
Last record I released (alright, CD), was in 2008 with my first punk band from 1979 (with 4 outa 5 original members participating), and my next record coming out - now OFFICIALLY on Halloween, October 31 2012 - is not punk, it's more Americana/Country/Blues/Rock/Pop.
Strangely enough, I will continue to record and release music as long as I can, and I will play live whenever I can or need to.
We're already working on the followup to the Oct 31 release, so that'll be next, most likely.
Live shows will likely be scheduled for 2013. It's very tough dragging drum kits around when you're pushing 60, but I like playing live every now and again as a counter to the recording processes we typically use.
I'm also a voting member of NARAS (The Grammys - Producer's and Engineer's Wing), I have a music publishing company, and an agent repping us outside of North America, so we're fairly serious about what we're doing.
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)Hell Yeah!
GReedDiamond
(5,299 posts)...Fuck Yeah!
stevedeshazer
(21,653 posts)JVS
(61,935 posts)DBoon
(22,286 posts)HuckleB
(35,773 posts)One cannot be a white supremacist and a member of true punk band.
That is the issue.
slampoet
(5,032 posts)Sounds about right to me.
intaglio
(8,170 posts)Johnny Rotten is 56!