Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:22 AM
lapucelle (15,111 posts)
Trump Travel Ban Upheld by SCOTUS 5-4
Thanks Jill! Thanks Susan!
http://www.scotusblog.com/2018/06/live-blog-of-opinions-with-scotus-map-and-first-mondays/
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lapucelle | Jun 2018 | OP |
Funtatlaguy | Jun 2018 | #1 | |
NewJeffCT | Jun 2018 | #3 | |
Cha | Jun 2018 | #5 | |
Funtatlaguy | Jun 2018 | #8 | |
Cha | Jun 2018 | #12 | |
NewJeffCT | Jun 2018 | #13 | |
Funtatlaguy | Jun 2018 | #14 | |
NewJeffCT | Jun 2018 | #16 | |
NurseJackie | Jun 2018 | #7 | |
Funtatlaguy | Jun 2018 | #11 | |
NurseJackie | Jun 2018 | #17 | |
lunasun | Jun 2018 | #22 | |
GulfCoast66 | Jun 2018 | #9 | |
Cha | Jun 2018 | #2 | |
NY_20th | Jun 2018 | #4 | |
Freethinker65 | Jun 2018 | #6 | |
nini | Jun 2018 | #28 | |
NY_20th | Jun 2018 | #34 | |
Takket | Jun 2018 | #10 | |
BannonsLiver | Jun 2018 | #15 | |
OliverQ | Jun 2018 | #18 | |
BannonsLiver | Jun 2018 | #19 | |
OliverQ | Jun 2018 | #20 | |
BannonsLiver | Jun 2018 | #24 | |
mythology | Jun 2018 | #25 | |
bearsfootball516 | Jun 2018 | #27 | |
exboyfil | Jun 2018 | #29 | |
UTUSN | Jun 2018 | #21 | |
ismnotwasm | Jun 2018 | #23 | |
DetroitLegalBeagle | Jun 2018 | #33 | |
Fullduplexxx | Jun 2018 | #26 | |
lapucelle | Jun 2018 | #32 | |
Fullduplexxx | Jun 2018 | #36 | |
lapucelle | Jun 2018 | #37 | |
Blaukraut | Jun 2018 | #30 | |
vi5 | Jun 2018 | #35 | |
still_one | Jun 2018 | #31 |
Response to lapucelle (Original post)
Funtatlaguy This message was self-deleted by its author.
Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #1)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:28 AM
NewJeffCT (56,792 posts)
3. He could not make a recess appointment
because the Senate was technically never in recess the last few years of Obama's presidency. SCOTUS said that Obama could make recess appointments when the Senate was officially in recess, but that the Senate decided when it was in recess, and McConnell never had an official recess.
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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #3)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:31 AM
Cha (283,895 posts)
5. Thanks for explaining that, NewJeff..
Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #3)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:35 AM
Funtatlaguy (10,432 posts)
8. I didn't know that. It has always been a meme
that Obama just refused to use it.
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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #8)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:37 AM
Cha (283,895 posts)
12. I never even heard that before .. I wonder where that
"meme" originated from ?
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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #8)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:39 AM
NewJeffCT (56,792 posts)
13. Obama had made a bunch of recess appointments
and Republicans challenged his ability to do that. SCOTUS ruled that he could make recess appointments whenever the Senate was in recess, but that the Senate itself would decide when it was in recess. So, McTurtle decided to never let the Senate go into recess and ran proforma sessions so they would never meet the threshold of being in recess.
I believe Obama lost a few recess appointments with the SCOTUS decision as well. |
Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #13)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:40 AM
Funtatlaguy (10,432 posts)
14. Thank you. Never knew this.
Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #14)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:42 AM
NewJeffCT (56,792 posts)
16. If the Senate had gone into recess
I think Obama would have moved on it very quickly and appointed Garland. After all, Eisenhower made William Brennan a recess appointment to the Supreme Court only weeks before the 1956 election, and Brennan became a liberal icon on the court.
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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #1)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:34 AM
NurseJackie (42,862 posts)
7. So, you can never forgive him for something he could not have done anyway?
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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #7)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:37 AM
Funtatlaguy (10,432 posts)
11. Chillax. And read my response.
Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #11)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:44 AM
NurseJackie (42,862 posts)
17. Memes aren't reliable ways to learn about our political system and processes...
Chillax. And read my response. Memes aren't reliable ways to learn about our political system and processes. So now you know. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #11)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:48 AM
lunasun (21,646 posts)
22. Why not delete your orginal post?.... It's false outrage imo
Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #1)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:35 AM
GulfCoast66 (11,949 posts)
9. You do not forgive him for not doing the impossible?
This is a new level of Democratic bashing on DU.
Normally it is reserved for something they can actually do. As a reminder, recess appointments are done only during recesses. The Senate was never in recess. Thus Obama could not do a recess appointment. |
Response to lapucelle (Original post)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:27 AM
Cha (283,895 posts)
2. Assholes!
Shite.
Mahalo, lapucelle ![]() |
Response to lapucelle (Original post)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:30 AM
NY_20th (1,028 posts)
4. We are losing our Democracy.
Horrible. I'm numb.
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Response to NY_20th (Reply #4)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:31 AM
Freethinker65 (8,175 posts)
6. The death of democracy
Response to NY_20th (Reply #4)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:58 AM
nini (16,632 posts)
28. Honestly.. I think we've lost it
And too many aren't paying enough attention to see it.
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Response to nini (Reply #28)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:34 AM
NY_20th (1,028 posts)
34. It really does feel that way.
We have one more shot. The upcoming elections are of the utmost importance.
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Response to lapucelle (Original post)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:36 AM
Takket (18,736 posts)
10. Get ready for a massive end zone dance from drumpf
He is going to be gloating until the cows come home.
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Response to lapucelle (Original post)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:41 AM
BannonsLiver (14,885 posts)
15. The majority of the SCOTUS are terrified of Trump.
Terrified of what might happen to them if they defy him. Couldn’t be more obvious.
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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #15)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:44 AM
OliverQ (3,363 posts)
18. Why would they care? He can't do anything to them.
Response to OliverQ (Reply #18)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:46 AM
BannonsLiver (14,885 posts)
19. LOL
Yeah right.
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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #19)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:46 AM
OliverQ (3,363 posts)
20. You're not making any sense.
Trump has no power over the Supreme Court.
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Response to OliverQ (Reply #20)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:52 AM
BannonsLiver (14,885 posts)
24. Yeah he's not vindictive or anything
Doesn’t have a cult of deplorables who do his bidding, doesn’t have a cable news network that does his bidding, and doesn’t have a network of radio stations that do his bidding.
He’s fully able to make anyone who defies him the target of all of that, including Supreme Court justices. Is it physical violence? Not yet. But it doesn’t have to be to violent intimidate. Wake up, and try and keep up. |
Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #24)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:56 AM
mythology (9,527 posts)
25. So because something that hasn't happened might happen
Nonsense.
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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #15)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:57 AM
bearsfootball516 (6,345 posts)
27. There's nothing he can do to them. He doesn't have power over them.
Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #15)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:59 AM
exboyfil (17,599 posts)
29. I think the five would have ruled the same way
even if Pence was the President. Their only concern (and the degree of it varies by Justice) is that the Court maintains or even strengthens its political position. That requires GOP control of the Senate and the Presidency.
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Response to lapucelle (Original post)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:46 AM
UTUSN (67,217 posts)
21. Thanks, Anthony KENNEDY, the only more damage is for you to RETIRE now
and give TWITLER another seat on the Supreme Court. Him, the supposed "Swing Vote," who swings the wrong way more often than not. . As if TWITLER needs any encouragement to exercise vast powers. Wait'll he gets to fill KENNEDY's and probably GINSBERG's seats.
Remember when Bill CLINTON and OBAMA were labelled as LAME DUCKS who couldn't do anything because of Repuke obstruction, couldn't even get a nominee to have a hearing, much less a vote. TWITLER will be doing his TWITLER jig at any moment. Besides KENNEDY's history, there's his recent history of hobnobbing with Ivanka and one or two of his sons having jobs in the TWITLER cartel. |
Response to lapucelle (Original post)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:51 AM
ismnotwasm (40,966 posts)
23. The Janus ruling is also coming up
It will end labor as we know it. So yeah. Fuck the 3rd party voters—
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Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #23)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:34 AM
DetroitLegalBeagle (1,583 posts)
33. Yep
With Roberts writing this decision, the Janus decision is likely written by Alito.
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Response to lapucelle (Original post)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:57 AM
Fullduplexxx (6,808 posts)
26. Dont thank them the democratic voters did this to themselves
Many People think voting is a fkg game . Well get ready for a whole lot of 5-4 pain because hillary was too close to wall street and oh yea her emails .
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Response to Fullduplexxx (Reply #26)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:30 AM
lapucelle (15,111 posts)
32. Democratic voters voted for HRC in 2016.
People who voted third party or who are so lazy and entitled that they stayed home because they weren't "inspired" and their vote wasn't sufficiently "earned" are not Democratic voters.
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Response to lapucelle (Reply #32)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:46 AM
Fullduplexxx (6,808 posts)
36. I know , personally know, dems that didnt im pretty sure they werent the only ones
I remember seeing the arguments right here about hillary being too close to wall street. Dont delude yourself that is how thing DONTget done
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Response to Fullduplexxx (Reply #36)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 12:06 PM
lapucelle (15,111 posts)
37. Are these people still your friends?
Did they vote for Trump or one of the third party spoilers? Do they live in swing states?
You should counsel them to be careful not to play the useful idiot for propaganda peddlers the next time around and advise them to take responsibility and apologize for the damage they helped to cause. Your admonitions concerning delusions are better directed at them. History will not easily absolve your friends. Nor should it. |
Response to lapucelle (Original post)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:09 AM
Blaukraut (5,625 posts)
30. But as long as we stay civil, everything will turn out fine, amirite? n/t
Response to Blaukraut (Reply #30)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:35 AM
vi5 (13,305 posts)
35. Right! Look at all the credit we got for going high when they went low...
..our need to be loved by the arbiters of civility in DC like David Brooks and his ilk is paying dividends.
Clearly voters wanted "bipartisan and sensible" solutions. Clearly they rewarded us for our years of being nice and taking the high road and reaching across the aisle. Let's make sure we keep doing that when we are in power again. |
Response to lapucelle (Original post)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:17 AM
still_one (87,273 posts)
31. They are phony frauds who have consistently, since at least 2000, misled and lied to impressionable
vulnerable folks to bring us to where we are today, and as far as I am concerned their hands are full of blood, and while they will never suffer the consequences of their fraud because of their means, many of those they misled will never recover from it
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