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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSarah Huckabee Sanders should've been served. HELL! We are Progressives
I do not want Progressives to become a reflection of the Right. There are certain signs I see that are disturbing and I believe we must speak up. What occurred to Sarah Huckabee Sanders was wrong.
https://egbertowillies.com/2018/06/23/sarah-huckabee-sanders-served/
JI7
(89,174 posts)Wwcd
(6,288 posts)"FEED SARAH H SANDERS"
#LetSarahSandersEAT#
#FeedSarah
#Sara'sHungry
Calling bs on this. I've read as many posts from "progressives" defending the restaurant exercising their right to set her free to feed elsewhere.
Right here on DU.
Not following your clickbait link either.
#serve the Huckabeast . ..with a subpoena, maybe. #Frst Degree Assholism.
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)sweetloukillbot
(10,791 posts)Clickbait, pure and simple.
George II
(67,782 posts)SWBTATTReg
(21,859 posts)Soxfan58
(3,479 posts)What the kitchen put in her meal.
I suspect she's too ignorant to know that it could happen. Someone might let her know that she may or may not get "bonus ingredients" in her food. She'll never know for sure.
lame54
(35,138 posts)serve her dish and quietly say
"I dare you." and give a wink as she walks away
TheCowsCameHome
(40,161 posts)bearsfootball516
(6,369 posts)Hekate
(90,189 posts)shraby
(21,946 posts)Maybe she needs to see how it feels to be discriminated against. Experience is the very best teacher.
hlthe2b
(101,715 posts)ARREST WARRANT, you mean.
For what, you might ask? She used her official WH Press Sec twitter account (though she has a personal account) to attack a private business. ILLEGAL as hell.
Phoenix61
(16,952 posts)She chooses to stand before us every single day and spew demonstrably false information. We have normalized this bs for way to long. This should have happened before Twitler was ever elected to every single person who voiced support for him. They are racist, mysogonistic, xenophobic evil little shits.
standingtall
(2,785 posts)I have no sympathy for her, it is all out warfare now.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,129 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)conform to society. It's very important to them to believe that most people agree with them, that they are right and respectable. Showing them that most do not is critical to shaking their delusions.
leftstreet
(36,078 posts)I'm not sure people really understand that
nicely stated
malaise
(267,808 posts)Treat them like pariahs
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)serving waste spewing animals in the same area as normal humans. She could have eaten in the barn outside but probably declined.
chillfactor
(7,566 posts)I would have spit in her face besides kicking her out.....after all the Supreme Court ruled in favor of being able to discriminate so I am damn happy the owner kicked her out.
vi5
(13,305 posts)..We are in this shit state we are in because our side has allowed Republicans to destroy people's lives....to literally kill and imprison people, but then to go home and partake of a culture that they claim to hate. We are in this situation because we have played nice and turned the other cheek and take the high road.
Nobody is advocating violence. Nobody is advocating physical harm. It's literally no different than refusing to serve someone who comes into a restaurant wearing a swastika or a KKK uniform or a racist shirt.
Until these assholes learn that their actions have consequences we are never going to right the ship.
cyclonefence
(4,483 posts)I understand your feeling that we should not mirror their behavior, and ordinarily I'd be right with you there. But Trump and his supporters have co-opted "patriotism" and "christianity" and even "normal" and it's time for them to be shown that what they're saying and doing is not only *not* patriotic or christian or normal but it's intolerable to the rest of us, even to people who are not usually politically active. It was a political act to refuse her service, not a refusal of service based on anything she can't change but based on her bad behavior. I see it as refusing to allow a disruptive drunk to sit in my bar. She has not exhibited good manners or humanity in her public dealings, and the restaurant owner was justified in refusing her service based on her behavior, not on who she is.
Funtatlaguy
(10,856 posts)The recipe from The Help.
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)You go right ahead ahead and be a good german to the people locking up babies in Trump's gulag while the rest of us fight the nazis any way we can!
RESIST any way you can IMO!
MaryMagdaline
(6,849 posts)Good manners are not equivalent to good morals. Lots of NAZIs had good manners.
treestar
(82,383 posts)If they don't suffer it, how will they learn? Sarah likely things she is a big shot and they should toady to her. That's how Trumpers are.
meow2u3
(24,743 posts)Those Trumpanzees think kindness is weakness and because of their warped thinking, the way to show strength is to treat them the exact same way they treat women and minorities. If that won't teach them a lesson to treat people like the human beings they are, nothing will.
rainin
(3,010 posts)Lead, follow, or get out of the way. There is no one perfect way to protest.
riversedge
(69,721 posts)rusty fender
(3,428 posts)She treats the American public with contempt, so why shouldnt we treat her the same
riversedge
(69,721 posts)rusty fender
(3,428 posts)Huckleberrys tweet
riversedge
(69,721 posts)BritVic
(262 posts)sunonmars
(8,656 posts)Let her go eat at some crappy GOP led joint.
NY_20th
(1,028 posts)I'm not that concerned that one restaurant refused to serve her. She is not the only person in the world that has been refused service at a restaurant, and she won't be the last.
Paladin
(28,202 posts)There's a time for gracious behavior, and there's a time for waging war against the forces of genuine evil, will all the weapons available to us. This isn't chickenshit fun and games anymore---our democracy teeters in the balance, and it's up to us to reclaim it, by whatever means necessary.....
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)"When they go low, we go high." - First Lady Obama
Look at what Gandhi did - great example.
The fake president has been intentionally dividing us from the beginning. I found it emotionally satisfying, as most did, that she was kicked out. He stokes hatred in us and enjoys watching us fight.
I don't know the answer. Let's find one.
Bettie
(15,998 posts)Seriously, how has being "civil" worked against people to whom being civil is our greatest weakness, the thing they can exploit?
Answer: It hasn't. At. All.
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)It is time we get tough on the right
They pull a knife we pull a gun
They send one of ours to the hospital
We send one of their to the morgue thsts the Chicago way
heaven05
(18,124 posts)to racist fascist and their propaganda ministers
heaven05
(18,124 posts)past the point you are demanding of liberals and progressives. Doesn't work with these racist fascist.
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)They will happily make sure we all disappeared without a thought, history does repeat itself when people close their eyes to it.
blue cat
(2,415 posts)They need to be shamed.
DFW
(54,051 posts)If Sarah Nobody is in the restaurant with a MAGA hat and a Trump shirt but acting perfectly civilly, THEN I agree that she should be served.
However, this is the nationally recognized representative of a regime actively promoting judges who agree that it is perfectly acceptable to discriminate against people on artificial "moral grounds." It is not only permissible, it is the moral obligation of the owner to use that representative's own arguments on her, and make her recognize the consequences of the actions and words of herself and the person/people she works for. At that point, it ceases to be discrimination, and begins to be "giving them what they asked for."
Short of imprisonment and torture for their attitudes, something we do not advocate, this is the only non-violent way available to anyone to show these people what it feels like to be on the receiving end of their own policies and "morality."
Will Sanders "get it?" Probably not. But she will at some point be told what it was all about, and though she will disagree vehemently, she will at least be exposed to the negative side of the logic she so fervently advocates.
And she then used her official Twitter feed, which has 3 million followers, to name the restaurant and be sanctimonious about what happened. She knows that owner is going to get death threats.
DFW
(54,051 posts)Like the place was crummy (never mind that their goddess chose to go there), one of DC's worst (never mind that it is 180 miles from Washington), etc.
treestar
(82,383 posts)and plays the victim. But a lot of people observing it all might just see what happened here.
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)at us from her podium perch like a preacher.
She has insulted this nation, children & G.O.D.
She wants to feed her gut wherever she pleases like some higher being while children are sitting in a damn dog kennel crying day & night till they emotionally shatter.
Babies taken from their mamas, & the hundreds of kids are fed fking apples & water, medicated into a state of despondency & huddled in the dark of night by armed ICE agents, and shuffled off thousands mile away to a human trafficking location where $50,000 is the going price for a instant adoption.
The mob criminals, Ms Sarah who merely wants to load up her gut, speaks for are stealing, hiding & selling these children on the black market & YOU HAVE THE AUDACITY TO COME HERE CLAIMING "Progressives" should LET HER FEED without placing "borders" around where she feels she should be welcome.
Your OP makes me want to vomit.
TRASH THREAD & IGNORE
Faux pas
(14,582 posts)ZERO ZILCH NADA NONE.
nolabear
(41,915 posts)What I hate is that theres such a feeling of helplessness against the abuses of the right that we only feel powerful by being like them. They set the standard and control us thereby. What I wish is that she might stop and think about the many who have been turned away out of programs and people she supports. Heck, her father is one of them.
Its a horrid choice.
Ilsa
(61,675 posts)She lies at everyone of them, giving cover to the evildoers in this administration.
lame54
(35,138 posts)even if I agree with you
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)then reap what they so. Enough of this high road bullshit. It hasn't worked so far and it never will.
Bettie
(15,998 posts)they are working to overturn civil rights laws in the guise of "religious freedom". It won't be long before it is "whites only" under that same guise.
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)But it always starts with one minority, and then it spreads if it's not opposed.
Baitball Blogger
(46,574 posts)than showing respect for others by PCing their behavior. Hey, it's just good manners. Treat others with respect and you get productive conversations. But, when one side continues to fling their poo at you, don't be surprised to get turned away at the door for moral grounds.
ret5hd
(20,433 posts)Response to ret5hd (Reply #46)
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Raven123
(4,714 posts)I agree we should avoid stopping to Trump's level. i read the WaPo article. The owner was much more polite to Sanders than Trump was to political dissenters. We just can't ignore the open, cruel bigotry perpetually emanating from the WH.
ret5hd
(20,433 posts)We should be TOLERANT of INTOLERANCE!!!
MFM008
(19,776 posts)Its up to establishment owners.
We need to step up to these people.
They need to go the way of the dinosaurs.
EndGOPPropaganda
(1,117 posts)With respect,
I am a progressive. Democrats have lost in the past in part for failure to convey the seriousness of the conservative threat.
Standing up for your values and refusing to serve someone who stomps on those values, and who hurts kids, is being progressive.
I am a progressive and I would deny her service.
Outrage is necessary and we must rise to the seriousness of this moment.
JenniferJuniper
(4,496 posts)I would have made them wait over an hour and then served them ice cold food.
LuckyCharms
(17,287 posts)Bullies need to be fed their own shit.
Has nothing to do with political leanings.
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)If you must- bow down to the one you serve
You may get what you deserve
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)The owner of the cafe retains the right to refuse service. In this case they chose to do so based upon their moral beliefs. Given the same situation I would likely do the same. The Religious Right has made denying service based upon moral or religious beliefs an issue and there have been several high profile stories in the news over the past few years as I am sure you are aware. The issue was created by those who were offended by the life style of those attempting to patronize a particular business or government agency. The precedent has been established this is just an extension of that precedent.
Johnny2X2X
(18,744 posts)I wouldnt serve someone who came in a white sheet either. These people are pushing literal Nazi propaganda every day. Its the owners choice. Call her a racist and ask her to leave, thats the decent thing to do.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Sometimes the other side crosses the lines enough that they are no longer due civility.
Pantagruel
(2,580 posts)should have been left to whatever Latinos that might have been working in that kitchen. Let them decide how to "fix" her dinner.
Honestly, any member of the Trump gang that eats out is making a really big mistake.
Rorey
(8,445 posts)Those days of being a food server are long behind me, but I'd gladly do it again to get the chance to serve her and her family. Even taking the order would be a blast. I'd respond to her in the same snarky way that she responds to reporters.
And the same goes for anyone who is in any way involved with this administration.
PatSeg
(46,794 posts)All the other customers would become aware of the neglected group, who eventually would probably give up and leave. That way, no one refused them service like the right tends to do on so-called religious grounds, they just gave them the lousiest service imaginable and hopefully embarrassed them in the process.
If I was a member of the Trump administration, I think I would be better off eating at home for awhile. Those "criminals" working in the kitchen might not be very forgiving.
There's no reason why anyone has to give these people "good service". No point in being a hypocrite, though refusing them service still sounds appealing.
Voltaire2
(12,625 posts)should be treated with respect?
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)No more of the Neville Chamberlain bullshit.
Turning the other cheek has gotten out asses whipped. Enough is enough
maxrandb
(15,189 posts)and smiling as the Nazis kicked their teeth in.
It's simple really. If they don't want to be treated like assholes... THEY CAN STOP BEING ASSHOLES
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)Of the current replies,
I counted:
56 saying she should not be served
5 saying she should be served
And 3 with mixed feelings.
Thats a pretty big landslide disabgfeeing with the OP.
And all 5 that agreed said she should be served, but with varying levels of horrible service. (The most positive view of those five was to make her wait at least an hour. Goes down from there
Voltaire2
(12,625 posts)It seems not, and this looks like trollish blog-flogging.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,276 posts)Tell me why, right here on DU, you think it was wrong not to serve SHS, because I'm not clicking.
In any event, a business has the right to refuse service as long as the refusal isn't based on a person being a member of a protected class. I'd throw her ugly ass out of my restaurant, too. She can go eat at Chik-Fil-A and buy a piece of cake at some bakery that won't bake wedding cakes for gay people, and to hell with her.
ck4829
(34,976 posts)Non-violent resistance to the regime is what we need more of.
bitterross
(4,066 posts)Do not confuse discrimination as a reason for refusing service with actual moral convictions. Any business owner is free to refuse service to people as long as it is not discriminatory. She deserves consequences for her actions. This is simply one of those consequences.
On edit: insisting she be served is like insisting you must give a skinhead or Neo-Nazi a ride to their rally as an Uber or Lyft driver. Would you expect African Americans to have to do that too?
Being "progressive" doesn't mean rolling over on our principles.
PubliusEnigma
(1,583 posts)On religious grounds, of course.
dalton99a
(81,065 posts)Give them not what they want, but what they deserve
madaboutharry
(40,150 posts)And you're wrong. These fascist need to be ostracized.
CakeGrrl
(10,611 posts)MORE than fair enough to that liar by choice.
Lunabell
(5,920 posts)She works for nazis and should be treated as such.
Power 2 the People
(2,437 posts)If the only way we can stand up to them is by showing them we know how evil they are then we must do it at every opportunity. We must let them know that the people are not fooled.
If bigots are applauded for not making wedding cakes for moral reasons then we should have no qualms about not serving bigots for REAL MORAL REASONS!
rickford66
(5,498 posts)Hey, what's good for the goose is good for Sarah.
TeamPooka
(24,155 posts)or see them out eating in public.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)stonecutter357
(12,682 posts)onecaliberal
(32,483 posts)Im saying pick a side and stick to it. Republicans want everything every which way. They have literally staked a position on every side of every issue. They voted for a pedophile for crying out loud. Bottom line for these people, IOKIYAR.
liberalmuse
(18,670 posts)You don't kowtow to fascists, liars, racists, xenophobes and propagandists. Huckabee is a propagandist and she is culpable in Trump's horrific treatment of immigrants, asylum-seekers and hell, they are persecuting naturalized citizens, too. If it were up to her and her daddy, and probably most of the Trump administration, The South wold still have Jim Crow. Deplorable restaurants and bakeries refuse to serve gays, and some of them harass people of color because of Trump and his shills. I guess maybe now she knows what it feels like to be refused service, except she deserves it.
Va Lefty
(6,252 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)throw monstrous child abusers out of their restaurants. Being a progressive isnt to be criminally supportive of crimes against humanity.
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Thekaspervote
(32,606 posts)These turds arent feeling anything near close to what they are handling out.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Alpeduez21
(1,739 posts)It is terribly naïve to equate not supporting facists with what conservatives do to the vulnerable members of society. Hating someone for what they choose to do is different than them hating people for how they were born.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)vercetti2021
(10,150 posts)No we aren't just going to be playing nice to these bastards. We need to fight back and with force. Fuck high and low, time for us to hit below the belt as much as they have.
easttexaslefty
(1,554 posts)Vehemently
trof
(54,255 posts)I'll nae see you agin.
yardwork
(61,417 posts)Niagara
(7,406 posts)The employee's called the owner and explained the situation. The owner decided to drive over to see if it was actually Sanders. The owner realized that it was indeed Sanders and interrupted the employee's prep work of the food order to take a vote if they should ask Sanders to leave. All employee's agreed to ask her to leave. The owner asked Sanders to leave privately and politely. They were NOT charged for the appetizer's they received.
There was nothing wrong about it. Any proprietor of a business has the right to call the shots. It was done in a professional matter.
Demsrule86
(68,348 posts)enter any business I ran.