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bigtree

(85,986 posts)
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:06 PM Jun 2018

There has to be something horrendous coming out about the immigrant families for Trump to relent

...in any way, so soon.

Trump doesn't just fold without pressure, and he's basically deaf to criticism. Hell, he was just yesterday delivering a full-force defense of detaining these children apart from their parents.

There has to be something coming out that he's trying to head off with this hollow act, ostensibly altering his own despicable policy. I think the wall they put up between the press and their internment camps is going to fall, revealing even more atrocities.

It's inevitable that the ugly truth about conditions in these internment camps is going to come out, and think this move by Trump is an attempt to deflect the coming firestorm when horrendous images come out of these facilities and full access is given the press and legislators.

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There has to be something horrendous coming out about the immigrant families for Trump to relent (Original Post) bigtree Jun 2018 OP
Where are the sick babies? How many have died? C_U_L8R Jun 2018 #1
My thoughts exactly. frogmarch Jun 2018 #5
That's entirely feasible. He doesn't do anything for anyone besides himself. shraby Jun 2018 #2
He will blame the Democrats for "their" bad law that doesn't exist The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2018 #3
Maybe. But it could be as simple as this: CrispyQ Jun 2018 #4
Apparently Ivanka told him leftieNanner Jun 2018 #8
scant hope of that bigtree Jun 2018 #9
I just know I don't trust him. Either something worse is coming out or he plans Solly Mack Jun 2018 #6
I know...I have no idea what is up his sleeve LeftInTX Jun 2018 #15
All those questions, yes. Solly Mack Jun 2018 #18
I don't recall who first tweeted it gratuitous Jun 2018 #7
that's it, exactly bigtree Jun 2018 #11
Trump is one of the weakest presidents we've ever had marylandblue Jun 2018 #10
There have been anecdotal stories that . . . peggysue2 Jun 2018 #12
Chump has caused irreparable harm to these children and their parents. gademocrat7 Jun 2018 #13
There have been anecdotal stories that . . . peggysue2 Jun 2018 #14
Bet you anything it's a dead kid. Vinca Jun 2018 #16
I'm sure something horrendous is coming out, but he relented because ecstatic Jun 2018 #17

C_U_L8R

(44,997 posts)
1. Where are the sick babies? How many have died?
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:08 PM
Jun 2018

The world needs to break into these concentration 'facilities' and find out what's really been going on. We need bright sunlight on all this.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,669 posts)
3. He will blame the Democrats for "their" bad law that doesn't exist
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:10 PM
Jun 2018

and make himself out to be the hero for fixing the problem. The fact that he and his minions have been justifying the policy and insisting that the only way to change it is for the Democrats to agree to legislation including full funding for the border wall is irrelevant to him. And what will happen to the 2500 or so kids who have already been separated?

leftieNanner

(15,082 posts)
8. Apparently Ivanka told him
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:17 PM
Jun 2018

that the "optics" of this were not helping.

Not that it's child abuse. Just that it doesn't look good for the brand.

Fuck all of them.

bigtree

(85,986 posts)
9. scant hope of that
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:17 PM
Jun 2018

...the story about these children is still developing.

We don't know half the story about the condition of these children and their detention facilities. There won't be a moment for some kind of victory lap with reports of atrocities still dribbling out.

Solly Mack

(90,762 posts)
6. I just know I don't trust him. Either something worse is coming out or he plans
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:14 PM
Jun 2018

to get something he wants - which would also be just as bad.

His words are meaningless. His actions are what we have to watch.

LeftInTX

(25,244 posts)
15. I know...I have no idea what is up his sleeve
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:29 PM
Jun 2018

I would like to see the order...

Is he going to stop charging and detaining parents.

Will he allow processing at the border?

Will families go to joint facilities like they did with Obama?

Solly Mack

(90,762 posts)
18. All those questions, yes.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:35 PM
Jun 2018

What exactly is he signing?

Trump never simply gives in - he gets his stabs in always.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
7. I don't recall who first tweeted it
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:14 PM
Jun 2018

But about a year ago, someone observed on twitter that no matter what you first hear about the Trump administration, when the whole story comes tumbling out, it's always worse than what you first heard.

Torturing and abusing children and babies is very, very bad. I hate to imagine what's worse, but if past performance is any indication, we're going to hear about much, much worse. Because it's always worse with these people.

bigtree

(85,986 posts)
11. that's it, exactly
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:19 PM
Jun 2018

...we'd be fools to not look behind this announcement for whatever he's hiding.

Chances are, it's something that's going to spill out uncontrollably, no matter what.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
10. Trump is one of the weakest presidents we've ever had
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:19 PM
Jun 2018

He pretends to be strong, but he always backs down in the face of real pressure. Always. He files lawsuits and says he never settles, hoping the other side will fold. If they don't fold, he settles.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
12. There have been anecdotal stories that . . .
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:25 PM
Jun 2018

many of these 'caretakers' hired by private companies have not been properly vetted, some with former pedophile charges.

And then, there's the polling, a no-win for the Trumapster and his enablers. For the Donald this is all transactional in nature; he incarcerates babies and then he gets his fu*king Wall.

Morality, empathy are signs of weakness. The Monsters are busy backpedalling.

Never forget, never forgive.

gademocrat7

(10,654 posts)
13. Chump has caused irreparable harm to these children and their parents.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:26 PM
Jun 2018

The GOP and their corrupt administration bear the sins of this dark period in our country. There must be consequences for their evil behavior.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
14. There have been anecdotal stories that . . .
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:27 PM
Jun 2018

many of these 'caretakers' hired by private companies have not been properly vetted, some with former pedophile charges.

And then there's the polling, a no-win for the Trumapster and his enablers. For the Donald this is all transactional in nature; he incarcerates babies and then he gets his fu*king Wall.

Morality, empathy are signs of weakness. The Monsters are busy backpedalling.

Never forget, never forgive.

ecstatic

(32,681 posts)
17. I'm sure something horrendous is coming out, but he relented because
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:31 PM
Jun 2018

about 50% of his deplorables don't like it. They want the families deported as a fully intact unit.

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