Bargaining for the wall cannot be about the children currently being discussed.

[NCTraveler]

They can be a part of the conversation but it has to be about the larger humanitarian crisis in order to go for the wall. The line has been clear on this one. Democrats will give in to the wall for Amnesty. That's it. Period. Why is it now even being discussed as a possible deal with respect to the children. Never never never.

No Democrat is to vote for "full" funding of a wall without full amnesty. There can also be no "switch" for when amnesty occurs. Ex: Amnesty takes place when x percent of the wall is complete. Figure it out folks, the wall will never be complete.

WTF just happened. Seems a narrative is being built that is setting our position back a little. Winning media cycles is actually hurting our position. Very strange. This is a serious fight. We can't back down because we are all upset about the children. Our messed up immigration policy and how we uphold it has done immeasurable damage to children. I'm glad more people are now "shocked" but that cannot change our position, overall.

The only way a Democrat should ever vote for a bill that includes "full" funding for a wall is if it is also accompanied by complete amnesty.

[awesomerwb1]

1. The narrative keeps changing because the dump admin, the teatrumpers and the anti-immigration

"organizations" like FAIR, CIS, NumbersUSA have very very effectively controlled it/changed it. (Please Google John Tanton immigration, he's the founder or co-founder of all those groups).

These are hate groups according to SPLC (Southern Policy Law Center). These organizations have become mainstream. You can't read an immigration related article without a quote from someone from these hate groups. They come up with BS data that unfortunately gets picked up and used by lazy journalists. They coined the term "chain migration" which is a shitty way of saying family reunification. I could go on and on.

Going back to the narrative you mentioned. The gop and the dump administration have very successfully kept moving the goal posts. Before, immigration reform meant comprehensive immigration reform as in some form of amnesty for all undocumented, like the Gang of Eight bill. Now it's simply Dreamers relief plus a wall, and much tougher immigration rules and less legal immigration.

I agree with your last sentence 100%.