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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThere is A SILVER LINING.... Trump has screwed Republicans
from public office for maybe the next 10 or 12 maybe 20 years... because the PEOPLE of this NATION will NOT FORGET how fucked up its been since He was elected... and THEY damn sure will not vote for Republicans for a long damn time.
That REPUBLICAN FOX NEWS gravy TRAIN will soon come to halt, and even in the Red States, we may see more become blue.. Even stupid people learn a major lesson when bopped over the head with how bad their politicians are..
A fine Example will be Scott Pruitt... the prime example of Corruption.
elleng
(130,865 posts)I wish I were as optimistic as you.
babylonsister
(171,056 posts)He could shoot someone on 5th Avenue blah blah blah, still holds true sadly.
elleng
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manor321
(3,344 posts)In November, the old white racists show up and actually fucking vote. Our side? Not so much.
DownriverDem
(6,228 posts)There is hope since Democratic voters have increased for the special elections and primaries. I don't have the numbers, but the Dems have won a lot of elections since trump got elected. State legislatures have more Dems now. A lot of young folks have registered to vote. I don't see the Dems' voters going down in November.
Generic Brad
(14,274 posts)But when they arrive to vote they learn they have been purged from the voter rolls or the voting machines at their polling site is not working.
drray23
(7,627 posts)But on the other hand, I am amazed every day at how many citizens are uninformed , don't read news or care or are just plain dumb, brainwashed or otherwise deplorable.
I am glad that my daughter who is about to give birth is living in california in San Francisco. At least she and my grandkid will be in a sane place when all hell break lose. This motherfucker is not going down without a fight.
LuvLoogie
(6,992 posts)The GOP has been this bad for decades. All trump did was blow their cover.
But I hear ya. I'm doubtful, however. I see very little regret, if any, from those I know who voted for him.
Stuart G
(38,414 posts)Taking kids from parents....is unheard of in the U.S.A. putting them in ....jail like conditions??
Most parents are horrified..yuiyoshida is correct.. I think in this next election, this will be a major issue. Republicans will have to defend Trump's actions.., and defending these actions will not be easy...
a kennedy
(29,647 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)Personally seen Barrack and Hillary throwing brown babies in cages to feed to the wolves. You remember how he SAW Muslims celebrating after 911...? That was a whopper too.
a kennedy
(29,647 posts)AND THEYLL STILL VOTE FOR HIM. ITS INSANE WHERE THIS COUNTRY IS AT THIS POINT IN TIME. and sorry for yelling.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)Plus, you spelled everything correctly.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)People like this shit. The right people are being humiliated. The right people are targeted, insulted, demoralized.
As long as the hated groups are the ones being shit on the deplorables are happy to breath the fumes and track the filth across the rug.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)They have brainwashed people into believing the Nazi's were the good guys during WWII!
OliverQ
(3,363 posts)Republican voters will continue to vote for Republicans and keep them in power.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)and I had thought George W. Bush was bad, but he is NOT the monster to Democracy that Trump will and still can be.
jayschool2013
(2,312 posts)Bush was a war criminal responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands.
hibbing
(10,096 posts)All the talk was about the end of the Republican party. Of course now you have a few people from that party saying this is not the Republican party. Sorry, but it is. I wish I was more optimistic, but I'm not.
Peace
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)And America went right back to Ronald I dont recall Reagan.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)Republicans barely lost the 1976 election versus Carter as well.
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)msongs
(67,394 posts)kicking into the camps
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)BluesRunTheGame
(1,614 posts)Until we make a dent in one or the other the madness will continue.
Different Drummer
(7,613 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,128 posts)does it apply in an Age where truth is denounced as #FakeNews and lies are used to slander the truth?
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)I sincerely hope so..I maybe naive, but the Russians did hack our election to give Trump the win, and the timing of the FBI directors announcement certainly didn't help Hillary...that must mean there are more Americans who didn't vote for Trump.
bucolic_frolic
(43,128 posts)as Trump is doing today blaming 'a law' that 'Democrats' wrote for child kidnapping. Trumpers believe this stuff and it makes a great whisper campaign.
We must fight further election hacking, voter disenfranchisement, Fox News. I hope I am wrong but I am not even certain elections will be held this year. Trump can cook up anything.
And we need Mueller to strike like a bolt of lightning! There's lots more we don't know, but I keep wondering - how IS this thing going to flip those bastards from office? And when will Hannity be in the docks?
Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)You are one of those "glass half full" people.
I am not one of those people.
I hope you are correct.
I will have to see it to believe it.
tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)May allow the Russians to effect the elections again, why not, its too their advantage...fuckers
btw, like your manga character, who is it?
pangaia
(24,324 posts)It is already happening. russian propaganda and cyber moves have never stopped.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid...one of the very best anime's from last year. A must watch.
not really a spoiler but Kanna is a dragon.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)I have not watched anime in years, but it sounds great..maybe there is something on Youtube.
helpisontheway
(5,007 posts)I was at the beauty shop on Tuesday. Room full and I was the only one that voted. Some said it did not matter because the candidate for Congress does not matter because they cant do anything about Trump. Then a few others said they did not care who was in office as long as they got their paycheck. 😩 So Im not confident at all that we will gain control of Congress. Also, Im not sure if we can get Trump out in 2020. Might have a better shot in 2020 because more people vote for president. Still not a slam dunk though.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)If TRUMP refused to step down, who HAS the authority to make him step down... or what if he used emergency powers to shut down the election permanently?
The Constitution must list some where how to handle a would be dictator. Maybe the DOJ is the one who can legally move in and remove Trump from office? Or perhaps a supreme court order given to the FBI?
dOES ANYONE KNOW??
muntrv
(14,505 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)Hope you are well.
🎍
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)it was really bad, but I am getting better..Hoping to smoke a little Cannabis later.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)Pipe or my vape...with the vape you can actually taste the flavor of Cannabis and different strains have different flavors...I been using tincture under my tongue with my cold, but really it doesn't get me high.. probably has far more CBCs than THC.. which is also good for my system the way it is.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Choices, choices....
Lucky girl..
You're so much more knowledgeable than I am....
I haven't done any dope in decades... it was back when it was simply roll your own... and cookies...
Last time was sitting on the edge of the Grand Canyon on a summer long motorcycle trip.... !!!
Lucky I didn't jump....
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)friend of mine, told me her client had died, and he had a bag of weed, and though i might like it.Well I was surprised when it got it, the baggie contained mostly leaves and twigs...I guess he didn't know the reason why we call it BUD is because you have to smoke the flowers.. that's where all the good stuff is!
The Leafs and Twigs were useless to me, but I was surprised there was no seeds, because those could have been used, to grow my own weed.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Even if he is, and there's a return to some semblance of sanity, immense damage has been done over the last 50 years (since implementation of The Southern Strategy/dog whistling/white backlash to Civil Rights era, The Powell Memo, Moral Majority, etc.).
There's also the possibility that an even worse person/administration will rise to power.
Regardless, the Trump cult will outlive Trump.
KansasKali
(105 posts)Did the people remember how much Reagan and W messed up the country? If they had would be have Trump now?
Cha
(297,137 posts)mucking about in out elections and the gop cheating and suppressing votes..
I still have HOPE, though!
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Freethinker65
(10,009 posts)And most of them will vote against any and all Democrats.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Thanks for the positive note.
Kablooie
(18,625 posts)I fear that many people across the US believe and follow this monster.
Trump has created his own national cult following.
Many conservatives have been ripe for this for years due to Fox News and AM Radio softening them up.
I'm not saying they will prevail, I hope, and believe they won't this time.
America surely has a stronger sense of identity than to have it blown away so easily by this buffoon con man
But I don't think it will be easy.
Also Trump supporters, whether they have Trump as their leader or not, are not going away.
They will be here year after year and if Trump falls they will try to install a new dictator/con-man because their fondest dream is to be ruled with an iron fist that screams "Christianity" with every strike as it drives the country down into the earth.
Ahpook
(2,749 posts)I never thought this country could get crazier than Shrub and Cheney, but here we are.
Palin gets within a hair of being Vice?
Let's get real and get active?
dubyadiprecession
(5,706 posts)Nixon only cost republican's the white house for one term.
I just hope that we get off this "See-Saw cycle" of gaining and then losing control of the congress every two to four years.
CanonRay
(14,101 posts)Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)Like the brothel guy. They wouldn't have considered it previously but now sense it is their calling. Nobody is too far right or bigoted for the Republican primary voters. Yes, some will lose the general election but given the sheer numbers and friendly districts a big chunk of them will prevail.
The trend will continue beyond Trump, just like right wingers like Gingrich didn't become prominent until many years post-Reagan.
2016 had devastating tentacles
pangaia
(24,324 posts)But I do.
I do what I can-- write letters, phone calls, emails, small contributions.. but......
WHERE are ALL our "LEADERS?"
Or even just people with visibility and the where-with-all to organize and lead?
A few are standing up and shouting and taking responsibility... but....so few....
jmowreader
(50,553 posts)Unfortunately, Trump still has a group of supporters who will stand behind him no matter what he does.
bucolic_frolic
(43,128 posts)After the OJ Chase networks figured out that hype could apply to news and there was money to be made. Industries were growing and supporting news advertising, think NFL and Detroit automakers and their new SUV's! Politics wasn't far behind. I know, I know, Citizens United. CU was merely the icing after the oven. That cake was baked decades before it was done.
FCC Licenses should be renewable - frequently - with performance standards for the public service portion of their operations. FCC Licenses should be pulled - fined - for non-performance. Fining because a tit or an F word has been heard when families are not asleep is not regulation. It's not even punitive. It's a band-aid to show the public how much government cares. Not very much at all.
I know, I know. Free Speech. We can't prevent lies. Without them, how would advertisers sell products, companies make profits, Wall Street stay afloat, politicians have a horse race? But we can still punish organized lies and distortion. Stay home. Cancel cable, boycott, buy competitors products. We can help choose sanity in the media.
CrispyQ
(36,457 posts)If they found worse than W, they will find worse than the Con.
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)he started this shit. Apparently Americans are A-OK with government sanctioned child abuse.
tblue37
(65,319 posts)economic meltdown would do it, but nope.
Don't underestimate either the perfidy of the GOP and their enablers or the sheer idiocy of people who keep voting for them.
wonkwest
(463 posts)And yet, here we are.
The country is partisan. Everything said against Trump is a Deep State Plot determined to undo an election.
I wish your OP were true, but I stopped clapping harder long ago. There is no Tinkerbell, and there is no end to any political party in this country in the foreseeable future.
vi5
(13,305 posts)I've been on here long enough to have been hearing some variation on this since the Supremes installed Bush 2 in 2000, on through the Iraq war, the market crash, after Obama's landslide in 2008, after the ACA passed, after every single scandal for every single Republican.
The bigger problem is not that people on here believe this, it's that I feel like too many Democrats in actual leadership positions and positions of power who should know better actually believe this and are banking way too much on this idea as electoral strategy.
See also: "The emerging Democratic Majority idea"