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Post removed Jun 2018 OP
Vinca Jun 2018 #1
TimeSnowDemos Jun 2018 #2
kcr Jun 2018 #3
TimeSnowDemos Jun 2018 #4
kcr Jun 2018 #5
bornfree17 Jun 2018 #15
kcr Jun 2018 #18
jcgoldie Jun 2018 #21
kcr Jun 2018 #24
DetlefK Jun 2018 #39
Hortensis Jun 2018 #19
JI7 Jun 2018 #6
peggysue2 Jun 2018 #7
GoCubsGo Jun 2018 #17
jcgoldie Jun 2018 #8
JI7 Jun 2018 #10
ExciteBike66 Jun 2018 #9
kcr Jun 2018 #14
ExciteBike66 Jun 2018 #31
kcr Jun 2018 #35
JI7 Jun 2018 #38
FoxNewsSucks Jun 2018 #11
DetlefK Jun 2018 #37
JI7 Jun 2018 #12
Kaleva Jun 2018 #13
DetlefK Jun 2018 #30
oberliner Jun 2018 #16
blogslut Jun 2018 #20
raccoon Jun 2018 #22
Kaleva Jun 2018 #23
Jokerman Jun 2018 #25
Kaleva Jun 2018 #27
ExciteBike66 Jun 2018 #33
JI7 Jun 2018 #32
Stinky The Clown Jun 2018 #26
Stinky The Clown Jun 2018 #28
DetlefK Jun 2018 #29
hexola Jun 2018 #34
mcar Jun 2018 #36
hexola Jun 2018 #40
hexola Jun 2018 #41

Response to Post removed (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 06:12 AM

1. It's time for a million person march on Washington for children.

Republicans have the majority and only they can change what's happening. They need to wake up! Don is not their lord and savior, he's a reality show star with bad hair. And there's a special place in hell for Sessions.

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Response to Vinca (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 06:20 AM

2. Won't happen

 

People care up to the point of moaning online.

Past that, not so much.

In 48 hours the news will move on to some other travesty and those kids will disappear back into the shadows to be raped, trafficked, God knows...

God knows how many of them are in shallow graves already.

We'll find out in 50 years, but the report will be released on the same day and Don Jr is sworn into office and so... Poof.

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Response to Post removed (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 06:21 AM

3. Of course you didn't write it to attack anyone

You wrote it to protect Trump.

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Response to kcr (Reply #3)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 06:27 AM

4. LOL

 

I've seen some desperation in my day, but this is... world class.

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Response to TimeSnowDemos (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 06:31 AM

5. It's pretty desperate

to try to paint Trump's actions as status quo. I know it must be hard to see him struggling.

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Response to kcr (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 06:57 AM

15. Really??

 

Are you just having a bad day?

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Response to bornfree17 (Reply #15)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 07:00 AM

18. Yes, really

Trump is no different than any other evil? Just the same old same old? We're all just suddenly overreacting for no reason? Should we just all simmer down now? Do you really agree with the OP? Really?

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Response to kcr (Reply #18)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 07:05 AM

21. You are correct

That's exactly whats going on here. Its another attempt to normalize Trump. Roseanne is that you?

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Response to jcgoldie (Reply #21)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 07:07 AM

24. Yes

It's no coincidence this is popping up right now. And the closer to midterms/worse things get for Trump, the more of this we can expect to see.

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Response to TimeSnowDemos (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 07:25 AM

39. Really? It looks like you wrote that to shift the conversation from Trump-bashing to US-bashing.

The one person responsible for the US' worst recent policies is notably absent from your rant about the many evil things the US has done.

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Response to kcr (Reply #3)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 07:01 AM

19. COUNTDOWN TO MIDTERMS: 143 days. :)

And every Tuesday the Republicans get more bad news.

Morning Joe's mood each Wednesday morning has become a useful indicator: If they bury the results of the elections from the day before deep in the show, they're really unhappy. It's been Black Wednesday for months now.

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Response to Post removed (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 06:42 AM

6. Bunch of fucking bullshit. Arpaio was convicted and lost the election

Many people went out to oppose him.

The entire fuck8ng world has a shitty history.

Things like the OP are either meant to defend trump or to make one feel superior about themselves.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #6)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 06:45 AM

7. x 1000!

Strange how these posts are popping up, eh?

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Response to JI7 (Reply #6)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 07:00 AM

17. Yep. It's "whataboutism" on steroids.

The only purpose of the OP is to deflect, distract and shit-stir. The sanctimony was a nice touch, though.

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Response to Post removed (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 06:45 AM

8. Pointing out other injustices has no bearing on the seriousness of this crime

Tell John Lewis that he's never done anything and so he may as well do nothing now. You are correct that the United States has not always been innocent in its international or domestic affairs. And yet intentionally separating children from their parents at the border and interning them to serve as some sort of deterrent to immigrants IS uniquely evil. That is what Trump is doing and that is what people are rightfully indignant about. Making a laundry list of previous offenses so as to make this one seem less serious is more than a little disingenuous.

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Response to jcgoldie (Reply #8)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 06:49 AM

10. Which country has been innocent ?

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Response to Post removed (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 06:48 AM

9. Folks need to not flag this post for right-wing talking points...

Whatever this post is, it certainly is not full of right-wing talking points. This stuff is hard-left opinion, if anything.

EDIT: I want to add to the OP that your post is inaccurate. "We" (meaning DUers) do what we can, which means voting for more left-leaning candidates and trying to hold them accountable.

I would love to know what country you are from so that I can accurately portray you as being a heartless bastard as you have portrayed us.

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Response to ExciteBike66 (Reply #9)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 06:56 AM

14. It's classic whataboutism

And it needs to be called out, even if it might be a "hard-lefty" Some people have an enemy-of-my-enemy mentality that makes them act just like right-wingers, and when they do they're practically no better. When you can't tell the difference, there's no reason to treat them any differently.

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Response to kcr (Reply #14)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 07:18 AM

31. So call it out with the correct flag, if you must flag it

These are not right-wing points, so the right-wing flag is inappropriate.

I don't think this OP should have been flagged at all. It is confrontational, but so what? I agree with the factual content, but disagree with the OP that DUers are doing "nothing".

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Response to ExciteBike66 (Reply #31)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 07:21 AM

35. What other flag does defending Trump with whataboutism deserve?

There is practically no difference. There is no reason to give it any other flag than what it deserves.

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Response to kcr (Reply #35)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 07:24 AM

38. Yup, it's what was done in 2016 elections all with the goal of helping Trump

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Response to Post removed (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 06:51 AM

11. This is NOT a right-wing talking point or smear.

I actually think it's more of a perfect example of how our corporate media in this country absolutely sucks.

People don't necessarily "not give a shit" about those topics, most people probably don't know anything about them because they never heard of it. And many who did hear about some of those things forget not out of a lack of concern, but because of the tsunami of corruption, disasters, and crap going on.

And of course, the corporate media never mentions any of that.

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Response to FoxNewsSucks (Reply #11)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 07:23 AM

37. No, it's not. It sound smore like a russian smear.

This "US sucks", "corporate media is evil", "fake news", "you are all sheeple" mindset is exactly what russian trolls are spreading to undermine and divide US society.

Are you implying that the corporate media is covering up all these things?

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Response to Post removed (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 06:54 AM

12. How about we discuss gay rights and women's rights in iraq and Yemen before helping them ?

Becsuse that's pretty much what you are doing here.

The goal has nothing to do with actually changing or improving anything.

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Response to Post removed (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 06:55 AM

13. "Whataboutism...is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda."

"Whataboutism (also known as whataboutery) is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument,[1][2][3] which is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda.[4][5][6] When criticisms were leveled at the Soviet Union during the Cold War, the Soviet response would be "What about..." followed by an event in the Western world.[7][8][9]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #13)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 07:17 AM

30. +1

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Response to Post removed (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 06:57 AM

16. What do you think the US should do with respect to Yemen?

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Response to Post removed (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 07:03 AM

20. unrec

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Response to Post removed (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 07:05 AM

22. What do you suggest that the average person do, oh wise one? Nt

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Response to raccoon (Reply #22)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 07:07 AM

23. OP hasn't done anything. Other then write an OP accusing others.

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Response to Post removed (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 07:07 AM

25. I'm offended that this post was alerted on.

I guess the truth hurts some people just a little too much

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Response to Jokerman (Reply #25)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 07:13 AM

27. What truth?

It's a text book example of a logical fallacy.

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #27)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 07:20 AM

33. Truth and logic are two separate concepts

It is true that the US does bad things (even "our" politicians, sometimes) as pointed out by the OP. It is not really logical to use *those* bad things to claim we don't really care about *other* bad things.

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Response to Jokerman (Reply #25)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 07:18 AM

32. The truth is the entire fuck8ng world has a shitty history

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Response to Post removed (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 07:12 AM

26. 15.00/24C

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Response to Post removed (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 07:15 AM

28. This post, and several of the replies to it, are BREATHTAKING in their audacity

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Response to Post removed (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 07:16 AM

29. This sounds exactly like the anti-american propaganda russian trolls are spreading.

- Using a current situation in the US as a pretext to bash it with all the bad things it has ever done.
- Bash the US, but be careful not to bash Trump.
- Shifting the conversation to bashing the US while claiming to have no agenda.

Seriously.

I'm a regular reader of Russia Today and the anti-american trolls in the comment-sections over there write basically what you just wrote.

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Response to Post removed (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 07:20 AM

34. A bit of a drama queen here...

You sound like a right winger...

But what about ABORTION.....!!!!!!!

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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Response to Post removed (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 07:22 AM

36. Wow

Some circular logic there. Where else have I heard the "well, we've done bad things too so we have no right to judge" theory?

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Response to Post removed (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 07:26 AM

40. The whole post is bullshit

How do you know nobody was inspired to join the millitary by Saddam killing Kurds?

YOU DON'T

And so on...broad brush bullshit!

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Response to Post removed (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 07:28 AM

41. You are a HERO - a DU post is REALLY getting involved!!!

Such determination from the OP - they had the COURAGE to COPY AND PASTE an article they didn't write...

SUCH A FEARLESS WARRIOR YOU ARE!!!

We are all in awe!

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