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Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:12 PM

I told everyone here for months Trump is going down and going down hard.

Look at what is happening. Trump is screwed.

You have the mueller investigation. Manafort and Cohen are fucked. They may turn. We are talking treason when it comes to Trump and his people. They supported an attack on America by Russia. You are a fucking traitor when you do that.

My home State of New York just filed a lawsuit against Trump and his family. Way to go New York. Crooked charity.

There are two grand juries investigated Trump.

Trump is being investigated for breaking the Emollients Claus of the constitution.

Stormy Daniels trial. Trump may have committed some serious crimes

The Summer trial. Same as above.

More to come, count on it.

Trump destroyed himself and his family when he made the dumb decision to run for president.

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Reply I told everyone here for months Trump is going down and going down hard. (Original post)
shockey80 Jun 14 OP
hibbing Jun 14 #1
Cary Jun 14 #3
tinrobot Jun 14 #12
FSogol Jun 14 #13
pangaia Jun 14 #68
The_REAL_Ecumenist Jun 14 #97
niyad Jun 14 #15
tinrobot Jun 14 #21
yellowdogintexas Jun 14 #95
niyad Jun 15 #102
DownriverDem Jun 14 #29
woundedkarma Jun 14 #53
MrPool Jun 14 #30
calimary Jun 14 #41
OhNo-Really Jun 14 #62
thbobby Jun 14 #57
Pepsidog Jun 14 #58
erpowers Jun 14 #71
Maraya1969 Jun 14 #86
TimeSnowDemos Jun 14 #2
Cary Jun 14 #6
jmowreader Jun 14 #91
Cary Jun 14 #92
peekaloo Jun 14 #9
marylandblue Jun 14 #14
George II Jun 14 #31
erronis Jun 14 #34
Callmecrazy Jun 14 #67
The River Jun 14 #24
forgotmylogin Jun 14 #27
klook Jun 14 #83
Xipe Totec Jun 14 #4
mikeysnot Jun 14 #32
OnDoutside Jun 14 #40
klook Jun 14 #84
OnDoutside Jun 14 #85
shockey80 Jun 14 #5
lagomorph777 Jun 14 #46
pangaia Jun 14 #70
dubyadiprecession Jun 14 #7
Glamrock Jun 14 #10
calimary Jun 14 #43
jayschool2013 Jun 14 #26
erronis Jun 14 #36
rainin Jun 14 #50
procon Jun 14 #8
lpbk2713 Jun 14 #11
workinclasszero Jun 14 #16
lpbk2713 Jun 14 #38
NightWatcher Jun 14 #17
CountAllVotes Jun 14 #20
duforsure Jun 14 #18
Orsino Jun 14 #19
The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 14 #22
shockey80 Jun 14 #23
quartz007 Jun 14 #39
lagomorph777 Jun 14 #49
quartz007 Jun 14 #87
Tarc Jun 14 #25
Zing Zing Zingbah Jun 14 #54
PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 14 #56
old guy Jun 14 #64
vi5 Jun 14 #80
Raine Jun 15 #99
wryter2000 Jun 14 #28
Raster Jun 14 #33
quartz007 Jun 14 #35
lagomorph777 Jun 14 #52
dameatball Jun 14 #73
lagomorph777 Jun 14 #74
dameatball Jun 14 #75
dameatball Jun 14 #76
lagomorph777 Jun 14 #77
dameatball Jun 14 #78
quartz007 Jun 14 #88
Kablooie Jun 14 #37
Awsi Dooger Jun 14 #55
quartz007 Jun 14 #90
panader0 Jun 14 #42
LeftInTX Jun 14 #44
yonder Jun 14 #60
lagomorph777 Jun 14 #45
progressoid Jun 14 #47
Thunderbeast Jun 14 #48
CentralMass Jun 14 #51
Fix The Stupid Jun 14 #59
yonder Jun 14 #63
Bengus81 Jun 14 #65
Glorfindel Jun 14 #61
Joe Nation Jun 14 #66
pangaia Jun 14 #69
Honeycombe8 Jun 14 #72
Miles Archer Jun 14 #79
still_one Jun 14 #81
egduj Jun 14 #82
VOX Jun 14 #89
USALiberal Jun 14 #93
AlexSFCA Jun 14 #94
oasis Jun 14 #96
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jimlup Jun 15 #100
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bjvom Jun 15 #103

Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:15 PM

1. I must admit, I'm nervous about the deplorables

If, and I still think it is a big if, he goes down, his supporters will go nuts. I mean we have Nazis winning nominations, and most of his supporters are completely batshit.


Peace

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Response to hibbing (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:18 PM

3. Most?

You're too generous. They're all completely batshit. Every last one of them.

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Response to hibbing (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:23 PM

12. They're not smart/organized enough to cause trouble.

There may be a few incidents, but nothing huge.

We'll survive.

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Response to tinrobot (Reply #12)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:26 PM

13. Agreed. Not only are they stupid and dellusional, they are also lazy.

Minor incidents.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #13)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 04:18 PM

68. Uh, just wait.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #13)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 11:56 PM

97. Though there are some who view RED DAWN as a "how-to", the one thing they NEVER take into account

is people defending themselves, if forced to. They ACTUALLY believe that people NOT part of the RWNJ Brigade are completely clueless where it comes to firearms and because we are begging for COMMON SENSE gun laws, we are bumbling, "sensitive" pacificsts, who will run screaming if they take up arms... TRUST ME, they ACTUALLY believe this... So, yes, there'll no doubt be a number of them that find their asses in a intensive care level slip due to their UNREALISTIC idea of what they'll be able to do.

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Response to tinrobot (Reply #12)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:32 PM

15. they may not be smart enough, but there are those who could get them organized.

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Response to niyad (Reply #15)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:40 PM

21. I doubt the higher-ups will support him when he goes down.

He'll be tossed under the bus very quickly.

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Response to niyad (Reply #15)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 11:00 PM

95. and they are all armed to the teeth nt

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Response to yellowdogintexas (Reply #95)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 12:14 PM

102. that, too! stupid, lazy, angry and armed is a dangerous combination!

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Response to tinrobot (Reply #12)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:57 PM

29. Also

the trumpsters think they are in the majority.

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Response to tinrobot (Reply #12)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:44 PM

53. So disorganized they couldn't elect a pos slob dictator as president... oh wait.

It's not the "deplorables" you need to worry about being organized, it's russia.

Everyone is celebrating when there have been no real consequences for the trump family yet.

Until trump is out of the presidency and in prison, it's not over and we haven't won.

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Response to hibbing (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:01 PM

30. Fox is the problem they will ferment fear and anger over everything. n/t

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Response to MrPool (Reply #30)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:24 PM

41. Welcome to DU, MrPool.

Pox Noise AND NOW, Sinclair Broadcasting. TWO big broadcasting monsters pushing the same lies and distortions and deceit.

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Response to MrPool (Reply #30)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 03:18 PM

62. We agree with trump FAKE NEWS/PROPAGANDA IS AMERICA'S ENEMY - GOP's that is.

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Response to hibbing (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 03:02 PM

57. A mini civil war?

I fear the RW Militia and gun humpers will go berserk. But it will only last a short time. I would not want to be celebrating in public places at first - hard to resist though.

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Response to hibbing (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 04:42 PM

71. Not Too Worried About His Supporters

I am not too worried about how his supporters will react if/when he goes down. I think the majority of them voted for him and support him because they think he will lead to Mike Pence being placed in the presidency. I think a large number of Trump supporters will actually be happy if Trump goes down.

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Response to hibbing (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 06:28 PM

86. Nazis are winning the nominations but wait until the general election. And

remember people like Roy Moore? I remember being happy he won the nomination because I really thought, correctly that people are smarter than Trump's stupid assed base. I don't see many, if any of these crazies winning their general election when compared to regular, decent people.

We still have a Blue Wave going on and people still hate Trump and everything that he stands for. I say, "good" when the worst candidate is put forth by the republicons. I know they cringe when they see who wins these elections too. Remember that most people don't vote in primaries. It is the base, and in IQ45's case the base is nasty, racist and stupid.

Let them make noise and make asses out of themselves. Hopefully we will get it on video and use it for our benefit

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:18 PM

2. Emollients

 

I think you meant emoluments

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Response to TimeSnowDemos (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:18 PM

6. Throw emollients at him too!

Why not?

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Response to Cary (Reply #6)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 08:09 PM

91. Emoluments, not emollients

You rub emollients on your skin or else you get the hose again.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #91)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 08:57 PM

92. Uh, yeah. It was supposed to be a joke.

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Response to TimeSnowDemos (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:22 PM

9. perhaps a sly nod toward the EPA thief Pruitt

He do like his lotion.

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Response to TimeSnowDemos (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:31 PM

14. Could that orange crap he wears include an emollient?

That would be great because I'd really like to make him take it off.

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Response to marylandblue (Reply #14)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:03 PM

31. I don't know about that, but it matches the orange jumpsuit he'll soon be wearing.

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Response to George II (Reply #31)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:10 PM

34. He'll probably wish he had some emollients/lubricants when he shares his cell

With a maga-bubba.

Maybe a new prison series: The Apprentice

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Response to erronis (Reply #34)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 03:49 PM

67. Now that's funny right there!

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Response to TimeSnowDemos (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:47 PM

24. Emollients Claus

is Santa's half brother.
I hear he works for tRump.

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Response to The River (Reply #24)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:55 PM

27. Apparently his lips are *very* supple.

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Response to The River (Reply #24)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 05:53 PM

83. He rubs the emollients on his belly,

which helps it shake like a bowl full of jelly.

The North Pole is not that far from Russia, you know. I bet he can see Putin's house from his workshop.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:18 PM

4. ...

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Response to Xipe Totec (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:03 PM

32. Why is this ok...

but Dukakis riding in a tank doomed his presidency?

Why? the media.

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Response to mikeysnot (Reply #32)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:19 PM

40. Apparently it's ok to wear a ridiculous comb-over but not a helmet.

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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #40)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 05:56 PM

84. It's also okay to break every norm of decency and decorum,

and to break as many laws as possible in the process, as long as you are not a Democrat riding in a tank.

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Response to klook (Reply #84)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 06:10 PM

85. They are very good at repeating bullshit lies ad nauseum.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:18 PM

5. New York State will be after Trump the rest of his life.

Trump has made so many enemies.

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Response to shockey80 (Reply #5)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:29 PM

46. Numerous other states are probably already investigating various Trump Organization crimes.

This stuff is growing by the day. And Turd can't pardon anybody for state crimes.

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Response to shockey80 (Reply #5)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 04:22 PM

70. Not if the fascists take over the courts, which is alrready happenuing..

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:20 PM

7. Trump, if by any chance your reading this...

Don't let them take you alive. You will be totally humiliated if you go to prison.

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Response to dubyadiprecession (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:22 PM

10. Bwaaaaaaaa!

That's some sound advice!

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Response to Glamrock (Reply #10)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:25 PM

43. SHHHHHHHH! No tip-offs please.

NO wiggle-room to anticipate or escape ANY of the ramifications. He deserves ALL of that, AND more. MUCH more.

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Response to dubyadiprecession (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:53 PM

26. Yep

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Response to dubyadiprecession (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:12 PM

36. Oh, I think there are many sharpshooters/chemicals out there to make sure he does not go down

alive.

Personally I'd love to have him blathering in a video-taped courtroom. No insanity defense allowed, however - "smartest man ever".

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Response to dubyadiprecession (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:39 PM

50. I need to see him in prison. Give him a cell next to Madoff. Put his precious daughter in a prison

close enough so stories will come to him. Death is too kind.

Can you imagine him getting a presidential burial? No way. Unmarked grave for him.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:21 PM

8. The legal costs of defending himself against multiple charges will kill him.

Not just as in bankrupt him, but all these legal woes will stick in his craw because he's a man who disrespects judges and abused the court system to harass and deter his accusers from seeking legal redress against him. No doubt, Trump is livid with rage and trying to find some way tp get revenge against anyone who would dare confront him.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:22 PM

11. Trump is a traitor, pure and simple.




His goal is the total ruination of our country.

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Response to lpbk2713 (Reply #11)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:34 PM

16. Trump is a Russian agent

Everything he does strengthens Putin and Russia and weakens the USA and the western alliance..

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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #16)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:17 PM

38. He's gone over to the other side.




His buddy Vlad will see to it Congress eliminates term limits and
Trumpsky will be our president for life. After he's gone they will
find someone else of their choosing. They are on their road to
victory without firing a shot.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:37 PM

17. I think trump was manipulated into running by his russian handlers

A sane person would've realized that running for office and making it would turn a spotlight on decades of dirty dealings and crimes that they had long since gotten away with. I do know that its a huge leap to assume that he "thinks".

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #17)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:38 PM

20. tRump

Russian spy.

and yes, it really is that SIMPLE!!!



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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:37 PM

18. Russian agent orange

May go down , but he's so corrupt , with many others helping him, I will have to see it first.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:38 PM

19. You're welcome to count those particular chickens...

...but I'm not convinced there's enough remaining American law and order to deal with corruption at this level. I'll hope that evidence can get a fair hearing and be used to hold officials accountable, but that hope is a little shaky these days.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:41 PM

22. I want the chickens to be hatched, counted, roasted and on my dinner table

before I know for sure Spanky is going down. His cultists in Congress will move heaven and earth to protect him.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:44 PM

23. Not if Trumps poll numbers go down.

We have seen this bullshit before with bush. Remember Palin? She was a goddess to the Trump voters. Where is she now?

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Response to shockey80 (Reply #23)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:19 PM

39. Rump has unemployment numbers working for him

Palin had no such help. Actually 2008 financial meltdown sealed the fate of McCain-Palin ticket, because of a republican in White House at the time. And Palin's record in Alaska is laughable, with quitting in the middle of term including.

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Response to quartz007 (Reply #39)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:37 PM

49. More people employed at lower wages and higher taxes (thanks to the tax "cut")

I think by November much of this will be dawning on voters.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #49)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 06:45 PM

87. correct, employment numbers ignore wage levels

Until the middle class manufacturing jobs come back from China, wages will remain low.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:50 PM

25. Until somethin actually happens, I'm a bit tired of the "THEY'RE SO SCREWED" hype

I want substance for once, not hints of Manafort wrongdoing, the will-he-or-won't-he-flip stuff for Cohen, and so on.

Not drip-drip-drip.

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Response to Tarc (Reply #25)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:48 PM

54. Same here.

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Response to Tarc (Reply #25)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:59 PM

56. I'm with you on this.

Pretty much every single day here on DU there are posts gleefully claiming Trump will be out of office real soon. There used to be daily posts about Mueller being fired. At least those have gone away.

The Republican leadership is firmly committed to retaining power, which is why they occasionally say something mild to indicate they're not 100% pleased with Trump, but are clearly doing nothing to remove him from office. And they won't. If somehow Trump is indicted for something (which I am daily more skeptical that that will ever happen), they'll get the Supreme Court to say a sitting President can't be indicted or brought to trail. So nothing will happen.

Even if there really is a blue tsunami in November, I don't hold out a lot of hoping for the newly empowered Democrats to do much either.

I hope I'm wrong, but the truth is we're stuck with Trump until at least January 21, 2021.

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Response to Tarc (Reply #25)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 03:26 PM

64. Count me in too.

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Response to Tarc (Reply #25)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 05:20 PM

80. How many times since election night 2000 have we heard...

variations on "OMG THE GOP IS SO SCREWED!!!" "OMG THIS IS THE END OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!!!" "THE NUMBERS ARE AGAINST THEM!!! JUST GIVE IT TIME!!!" "THE GOP WILL PAY FOR THIS OVERREACH AT THE POLLS!!!!"

Yeah. Didn't happen. Not going to happen.

The best any of us can hope for is Trump resigns before anything happens. And then we get President Pence and we'll hear more of the same types let us know that the adults are back in charge and that they look forward to negotiating in good faith and working with their friends across the aisle as though none of this happens. And that is the BEST CASE scenario.

But rest assured neither Trump nor anyone is his family is "going down" or "going away" or any of it.

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Response to Tarc (Reply #25)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 04:00 AM

99. Same here

I'm tired of the hype which so far is still the same old same old. I'm sick of the talking heads too, when you really listen it all comes down to "if this, if that", I don't even watch them anymore.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:56 PM

28. I'm only wondering...

Clearly, he's broken lots and lots of laws, and also clearly both Mueller and New York courts are closing in. When Manafort and Cohen talk, there'll be sufficient evidence to charge him with obstruction of justice and (I would guess) money laundering at least.

What I'm wondering is what happens then? Will the Republicans finally turn on him and throw him out of office? They show no indication so far they have the decency to do that.

So what happens when the President of the United States is charged with crimes?

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:07 PM

33. "...being investigated for breaking the Emollients Claus of the constitution.."

"We believe you may have dry, cracked skin. Do you deny this?"

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:11 PM

35. Likely but not before 2020 November..

First Mueller has to publish the charges and present evidence.
There will be a long debate in the House if impeachment is called for and vote to file articles of impeachment. That will happen only if the blue wave flips the House.

Senate is less likely to flip in 2018.
Then Senate has to debate and vote to remove Rump.
Just do not see all this happening before election of 2020.
Why? Because the republican congress critters are afraid of being primaried by Trumpkins. Look at what happened in Virginia on Tuesday. Republicans won't turn on Rump until
after the election of 2020 November is out of the way.

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Response to quartz007 (Reply #35)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:42 PM

52. What specifically about the VA elections are you pointing out?

I'm VA-10th (which was challenging because of so many great Dem choices). But I haven't noted very much of interest on the RePutin side of the ticket. What have I missed?

Quickly scanning the numbers, only in my district can I compare the two sides directly; we hold a 12,000 voter advantage if you measure enthusiasm by primary turnout. Also here in the 10th, the brazenly pro-Turd Shit Hill lost to Comstock by a wide margin.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #52)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 04:59 PM

73. Stewart appeals to a lot of people here west of Roanoke, sorry to say.

But if Dems turn out over the rest of the state it will be Kaine big time. But then, I never thought either Trump or Charlottesville would happen, so what do I know?

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Response to dameatball (Reply #73)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 05:03 PM

74. Thanks - I hadn't paid any attention to the GOP Senate primary.

So they chose a Nazi. Nice.

Well, that should help us get out our base in November.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #74)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 05:08 PM

75. The national GOP is pretty much giving up this race. But....who knows? No time to let off the gas.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #74)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 05:10 PM

76. They chose a nazi who loves the confederacy and is from Minnesota.

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Response to dameatball (Reply #76)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 05:13 PM

77. Funny - I don't emember MN as a Confederate state.

But maybe my historical memory is as bad as Trump's.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #77)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 05:16 PM

78. You don't recall the Axis powers?....Germany, Japan, Italy and Minnesota???....:)

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #52)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 06:50 PM

88. My error...I meant S. Carolina race of

Mark Sanford which made lot of news, because Sanford was vocal in opposition to Rump.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:13 PM

37. I think it will be harder than expected to take Trump out.

First he has the most expansive public platform anyone in history has ever had to try and turn public opinion.
As long as he has wiggling room he will use this to push tried and true legal obfuscation tactics.

But if he finds himself cornered he will do anything, no matter how destructive, to get himself out.
This could be ordering a war or maybe even inventing an excuse to declare martial law.
( I know this is classic, tin foil hat, conspiracy thinking but with Trump the totally unthinkable is in the realm of possibility.)

It's not going to be pretty because he will never accept American law as the final arbiter of his future.

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #37)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:49 PM

55. It's not happening

Always ignore day to day details. The people who obsess over details have the most inept predictive ability on the planet.

When you have a list of details then the projection will almost certainly be wrong.

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Response to Awsi Dooger (Reply #55)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 08:06 PM

90. like...lost in the forest looking at individual trees?

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:24 PM

42. I think everyone here has been saying that.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:25 PM

44. Let me know when it happens.....

Everyone was saying he wouldn't last 6 weeks, 100 days, 6 months....etc etc etc

It has been 18 months.

Sorry, but I see no end in the near (foreseeable) future.

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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #44)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 03:15 PM

60. I've been growing a beard, remaining uncut, as a form of singular protest

since November of 2016. At least one other member of DU is/was doing the same thing. As you said, I figured dRump would last a few months, six months tops. It's been 19 months of his miserable occupation of our house and I don't see an end either. I am learning that for every surprisingly stupid thing he says or does, it is surprisingly and stupidly accepted by his base and their GOP herders.

While not to a Gandalf state yet, it continues to grow: long, gray, turning white, for as long as it takes.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:26 PM

45. Pruitt broke the "Emollients" Clause when he sent an aide to buy moisturizer.

Trump is continually breaking the Emoluments Clause by raking in money from foreign governments.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:32 PM

47. I remember a lot of people here put a lot of faith in Patrick Fitzgerald too.

A lot of people here were sure that the Bush administration was going down then too.

Good times. Good times.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:35 PM

48. In a last ditch defense of power....

He may convince three more states to ratify a call for a Constitutional Convention. They have an un-quenchable desire for wealth and power. If they CAN seize it....THEY WILL!

At that point, there are no guarantees. 250 years of democracy could be made history.

What are the alternatives?

Dictatorship?

Monarchy?

Police State for our own safety?

Wake up.

We MUST take back the state legislatures NOW!



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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:41 PM

51. Nothing of consequence has happened yet.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 03:05 PM

59. Sigh...again, nothing is going to happen.


Two sinister words...

National Security

Do you really think they will arrest/impeach/remove a sitting president? Really?

What will happen to the stock market?

What happens when the partisan nut jobs get violent over his removal?

Etc, etc.

Again, we are still waiting for files to be released on the JFK assassination - 50+ years ago - because of 'national security' concerns...

There is no possible way it will happen because too many wealthy people will lose their shit - hence, let the asshole serve out his term and go away because.."national security"...

The only way is to vote the bastards out. Every one of the GOP fascists - everyone.

Make it so lopsided they cannot steal it.

Only way...

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Response to Fix The Stupid (Reply #59)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 03:24 PM

63. +1. You got it. So called national security.

Can't let the wealthy lose their asses.

Damn straight: Only way. GOTV

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Response to Fix The Stupid (Reply #59)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 03:29 PM

65. Agreed,Shitler is going NOWHERE until VOTED from office..............

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 03:16 PM

61. From your mouth to God's ears, shockey80.

I truly, sincerely hope you're right!

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 03:45 PM

66. Everything the Crap Tornado Touches...

Gets covered in crap. The man is a human shit-storm of the category 5 variety.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 04:19 PM

69. I disagree. I think the USofA is going down. But I hope you are right and I am wrong.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 04:54 PM

72. I am hopeful. But I go by what's happened. So far, nothing has happened to stop him.

If anything, his power has grown in the last few months.

Children are being ripped from the arms of mothers. Racism is more overt than ever. His supporters are clamoring for a Nobel Peace Price like Obama got. He's alienating our allies even more than before. Rules are being abolished. Huge tax cuts for billionaires & corporations were passed.

If a report is returned that recommends indictment, I fear that no one will act on it, since it will be a "witch hunt" report, and the rest of the politicians will be too afraid.

But I am hopeful, nonetheless.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 05:19 PM

79. Unless it's state charges, it still comes down to Ryan and McConnell.

I agree with everything you wrote.

When / if it comes time for Ryan and McConnell to act, I don't care what the charges are, what the verdicts are, how many indictments there are.

If it's up to them, they will do nothing.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 05:31 PM

81. I hope your assessment is right, but I am skeptical.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 05:52 PM

82. For 17 months to be precise.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 07:58 PM

89. As long as billionaires and the Republican Party stands with Trump...

Trump and his wrecking crew aren’t going anywhere. If the letter of the law still had any value, they’d be in prison right now.

But the old paradigms are just that— old and out of date. Apparently, the law now takes a back seat to being a “loyal party member,” just as it was last century for a couple of European dudes who also fancied themselves “stable geniuses.”

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 08:58 PM

93. Yet nothing has happened. nt

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 10:38 PM

94. I beleive it when I see it

but the likelihood of trump getting reelected is growing everyday. No president has ever had supporters like trump supporters. They are tribal and pledge absolute loyalty to trump no matter what. Many will kill for trump.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 11:08 PM

96. You're on the right track. nt

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 03:43 AM

98. You're a step behind. You speak of our justice-will-not-fail democratic world as if it still exists.

Sure, it still exists for Democrats and progressives -- but that's our memories talking. #45 and his supportive Republican Party have created their own reality, as most cults do. They believe that they're the victims, and also above the law.

And most of the Republican Party are backing Trump. His supporters don't care about Russia. They don't care that he has likely broken multiple laws in several U.S. states over time. They love his crassness and intemperate bullshit, just for the very effect it has on reasonable people. They have the Supreme Court advantage. They hold all branches of government. Clearly, they're not interested in playing fair. I fear that the partisan divide is so deep that #45 will still be standing after this, I fear.

It appears now that there is a sobering number of American citizens who would vote for an out-an-out fascist. Which is why it is CRUCIAL to vote Democratic in November.



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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 09:30 AM

100. The longer it goes the more this stupid fool appears to be legitimate

Sooner rather than later please!

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 09:35 AM

101. Keep hope alive!

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 12:32 PM

103. Emoluments clause

Who is Emollients Claus; Santa's creepy lotioned-up brother?

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