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Thu Jun 14, 2018, 11:38 AM

Incredible: Trump Foundation treasurer didn't know he was treasurer until fed investigators told him

Incredible: the Trump Foundation treasurer didn't even know he was treasurer until federal investigators told him.








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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 11:46 AM

1. Isn't that fraud?

Why not criminal charges? Any individual who contributed to the charity did so under a false representation (probably only one of many).

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 12:11 PM

6. Name something, anything, in the Trump world that's not a fraud.

I haven't seen anything that he's done that wasn't a crime.

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Response to Yavin4 (Reply #6)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 12:15 PM

7. No wonder

He is shocked.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 11:53 AM

2. No corruption. No corruption.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 11:54 AM

3. I also wondered why there aren't criminal charges, but maybe this is just the beginning

A civil case may be easier to win than a criminal conviction, and in the process the AG may gain a larger body of evidence which will allow criminal charges later which are more likely to succeed.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 11:56 AM

4. Just more Republican Plausible Deniability. Who me?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 12:03 PM

5. That's because these are all fake corporations, and Trump just sticks names into

positions that have no work attached. That guy probably gets some dough for the use of his name, but guess what -- if he is the official treasurer, many states have laws that make the treasurer legally responsible. Period. I can assure him that the nominal money he was paid will not in the least offset what it is going to cost him.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 12:24 PM

8. "I'm not the tresurer, YOU are the treasurer!!!"

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:00 PM

9. i'm not quite following. being treasurer and being on the board are two different roles.

sounds like he did understand that he was treasurer, but did not realize he was also on the board.

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Response to unblock (Reply #9)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:47 PM

13. Treasurer is a board level position

Also boards on typical foundations, would have had board meetings and a person serving as treasurer would normally be required to attend these meetings

The board of directors is the governing body of a nonprofit. Individuals who sit on the board are responsible for overseeing the organization's activities. Board members meet periodically to discuss and vote on the affairs of the organization. At a minimum, an annual meeting must occur with all board members present.Dec 11, 2014

A Nonprofit's Board of Directors - What is a Board? - Foundation Group
https://www.501c3.org/nonprofits-board-directors-board/

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Response to neohippie (Reply #13)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:54 PM

14. Could be. Treasurer is sometimes on the board, sometimes not.

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Response to unblock (Reply #14)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 03:09 PM

16. okay but the OP says

the original post says investigator told him was on the board and had been for more than a decade.

How would one explain that they didn't know that if they were both the treasurer and a board member, and the foundation was following through with their legal obligations?

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Response to neohippie (Reply #16)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 03:33 PM

17. Well clearly someone screwed up

I'm just saying I think he knew he was treasurer, he just didn't know he was also on the board.

How that happened, and how that could continue to be the case, if it's being run properly, I don't know.

But "if it's being run properly" is the key phrase here....

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:05 PM

10. But! But! But! Clinton Foundation! Pay for Play! Russia! Uranium! Haiti! but but but!!

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #10)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:12 PM

11. Exactly. That was certainly projection on their part.

And, of course, we don't see Nunes or Gowdy falling all over themselves to investigate the Trump foundation.

On Edit: Since the NY AG found that the foundation was involved with the campaign it's now a matter for the House and Senate to investigate. But they won't.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:27 PM

12. He probably didn't know he was a human being either.

Of course, that really remains to be seen.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 03:06 PM

15. Allen's lawyer just canceled his vacation

If he has the pockets to Pay it

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