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Thu Jun 14, 2018, 10:09 AM

The cult of Trump will be destroyed because of this fact of life.

Reality always crushes illusion in the end.

Trumps entire presidency is based on an illusion. Therefore, his voters are following an illusion. Trumps entire life was an illusion.

The claims Trump makes about the economy, foreign policy, are an illusion. In time reality will override the illusion. We will start seeing the reality of Trumps presidency.


The Mueller investigation is reality. What Trump and his voters say and believe about the investigation is an illusion.

What I don't know, nobody knows, is what will be the final cost for all of us, our country when this illusion is finally destroyed.

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Reply The cult of Trump will be destroyed because of this fact of life. (Original post)
shockey80 Jun 14 OP
vi5 Jun 14 #1
Duppers Jun 14 #12
ChiTownDenny Jun 14 #26
Wounded Bear Jun 14 #2
Stuart G Jun 14 #6
groundloop Jun 14 #24
Buns_of_Fire Jun 14 #3
Pacifist Patriot Jun 14 #5
FiveGoodMen Jun 14 #31
Pacifist Patriot Jun 14 #4
volstork Jun 14 #7
RKP5637 Jun 14 #17
Garrett78 Jun 14 #8
tblue37 Jun 14 #9
Skidmore Jun 14 #20
tblue37 Jun 14 #22
uponit7771 Jun 14 #10
Kablooie Jun 14 #11
Mc Mike Jun 14 #13
From the Harem Jun 14 #14
FSogol Jun 14 #15
vi5 Jun 14 #29
thbobby Jun 14 #16
RKP5637 Jun 14 #19
True Blue American Jun 14 #23
FakeNoose Jun 14 #18
NCjack Jun 14 #21
BlueJac Jun 14 #25
GetRidOfThem Jun 14 #27
Thomas Hurt Jun 14 #28
FiveGoodMen Jun 14 #30
Bernardo de La Paz Jun 14 #32
Mc Mike Jun 15 #36
Orsino Jun 14 #33
KG Jun 14 #34
Tarc Jun 14 #35
Codeine Jun 15 #37

Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 10:24 AM

1. Nope. Sorry, not going to happen...

...there is an entire industry devoted to keeping these people in their bubble and keeping reality out.

As long as there are "others" to blame they will never, ever have to face reality.

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Response to vi5 (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 11:35 AM

12. Indeed!

Religion is an Illusion too yet rationalists are a minority.

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Response to vi5 (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 12:59 PM

26. + 1

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 10:26 AM

2. Perhaps, but how long does it take?

How many must suffer before the "truth" comes out and people believe it?

From the fall of Rome to the Enlightenment was several hundred years. Can you wait that long?

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 11:02 AM

6. Depends on the situation....sometimes a short time..sometime a long time

..I believe the fall of Trump will be relatively short. Too many activities that will be proven.."illegal"

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 12:46 PM

24. Agreed.... Hitler managed to ruin much of the world before his fantasy world crumbled

I'm very afraid of what Spanky is going to do to my dreams of being able to retire anytime soon, he's going to crush the economy and I'll be screwed. And that's just me, there are millions more in this country without adequate healthcare who Spanky will gladly hurt just to erase one tiny bit of President Obama's legacy.


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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 10:41 AM

3. I dunno... The Cult of Trump seems to be immune to reality. nt

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Response to Buns_of_Fire (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 10:44 AM

5. Immunity to reality doesn't innoculate you from the eventual affects of reality.

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Response to Pacifist Patriot (Reply #5)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:32 PM

31. No, but it keeps people from figuring out what's gone wrong and how to fix it.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 10:44 AM

4. I get what you're saying.

And my fear is the cost of dragging people kicking and screaming from their bubble of delusions will be akin to WWII or worse. Here's hoping it's more like the downfall of McCarthyism and Nixon.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 11:07 AM

7. I appreciate your point, but

the cult of Hitler seems alive and well in 2018 in spite of the millions who died in its wake. Some skulls are too thick to ever be penetrated; they are helmeted with hatred and desperation.

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Response to volstork (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 11:49 AM

17. Yep, there is a mentality that will forever support Hitler and the like. It's basically IMO

ingrained mind-think. They are hard-wired for it, no choice. It's pretty much reflexive reactions combined with cult tribal behavior. Trump falls in that mindset too for many, and then there are those that see great money opportunities and power by being Trump sycophants. Trump has tapped into the hatred in the US and has reinforced that hatred into political action. It's dangerous times in the US. If the GOP Trump Cult still maintains congress after the mid-terms, the US is going to decline even more rapidly.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 11:09 AM

8. The cult of Trump will outlive him.

The Republican Party spent 50 years developing this cult. It won't go away anytime soon.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 11:14 AM

9. Hitler and his Nazis were destroyed, too, but not before they murdered millions and

did incalculable damage to both Europe as a whole and Germany itself.

We can't wait for reality to do the job "eventually." We have to get it done a lot sooner than that.

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #9)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 11:59 AM

20. They weren't destroyed. They were

disbanded and returned to being citizens. Some fled or were patriated to other nations, as in Argentina or even here in the USA. True believers lived to fight another day and to teach another generation.

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Response to Skidmore (Reply #20)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 12:02 PM

22. I meant destroyed as a movement in Germany, which is what the OP

says will eventually happen to the Trump movement and his cultists.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 11:28 AM

10. Benedict Donald will blame Obama and the sycophants will believe him

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 11:31 AM

11. The cult of Kim has been around for 60 years

And is still going strong and in the third generation.
Reality is not always an efficient disinfectant.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 11:36 AM

13. Like the 1000 year reich.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 11:38 AM

14. I don't know about that.

Lots of institutions are based on illusion. Religion for example. Did Mohamad really fly off to heaven on a horse? Did Jesus really float off to heaven after his resurrection? Did winter suddenly turn to spring the day Kim Jung Un was born? Illusion is a strong and lasting force.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 11:42 AM

15. Sorry, but I'm still waiting for the Cult of Reagan to die out.

The guy created new taxes on the middle class, tripled our national deficit, sold weapons to our enemies, and conspired with terrorists to keep American imprisoned. He put Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussies on the US payroll. When will the facts of life catch up to the St Ronnie fucks?

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Response to FSogol (Reply #15)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:30 PM

29. I wouldn't count on that any time soon.....

Not only do all Republicans believe the gospel of St. Ronnie, I'd say half of Democrats (especially many who we actually elected) do as well.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 11:43 AM

16. Iran-contra Ronny is still worshipped by gop

and he was a criminal and gay hater - denied AIDS epidemic for well over a year. And still repugs jerkoff on the temple of Saint Ronny.

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Response to thbobby (Reply #16)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 11:52 AM

19. It was a horrifically depressing day when he became president. The day that the US started to go to

hell.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #19)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 12:37 PM

23. In a handbasket!

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 11:51 AM

18. The most unreal thing in our culture is "reality television"

Nowadays some Americans are actually living in that bubble of fake news and fake lifestyles. This is why Faux News exists - to feed the bubble.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 12:00 PM

21. USA will not make the U-turn until the GOP has pumped

every dollar the working people have into the bank accounts of the ruling rich. Maybe that will happen in another 20 years.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 12:58 PM

25. The Nazi's are still around today...

hope you are right but I seriously doubt it.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:01 PM

27. It is very dangerous to hope for a collapse of illusions even thought facts...

...indicate it should happen. Remember the internet bubble in the 1990s, Henry Blodget and all of that? Those that shorted lost their shirt. The reason why is because for some it is easy to tell when you are in a bubble, but it is impossible to time its ending.

You are right, there is a Trump bubble, they are stepping away from reality, but assuming that reality is a regulating mechanism is unfortunately not true. The economy, and the political economy, is not truly as efficient as many make it out to be. We experience "market failures" all the time. As an infrastructure economist I see this all the time...

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:02 PM

28. you can't fix magical thinkers/cultists without sketchy deprogramming

or like an addict they have to hit bottom before they end in prison or dead.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:31 PM

30. "Reality always crushes illusion in the end."

HOW many years have people believed that an all-powerful sky daddy arranged his son's death so that he could get over making us the way he supposedly made us?

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:42 PM

32. The core Trumpanzees will hold the illusion for a lifetime. But the rest of the country will accept.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #32)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 08:31 AM

36. Notice how they're using their current nazi nitwit to rehabilitate the flunkies of their last nazi

nitwit.

All twitler's flunkies can see how the stink wore off of li'l bush's flunkies -- now we're listening to busheviks' opinions on the tube. Their opinion is that twitler sucks, to be sure, but even a toddler could understand a power dynamic like this.

So current trump mutant operatives can see the cushy landing, though they're not quite as astute as the average add afflicted toddler.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:43 PM

33. Illusions come and go...

...but those who want to believe in illusions will always be with us.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:45 PM

34. I expect the illusion of religion to crash any second now.....

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:51 PM

35. Why are these empty conjecutre posts being upvoted?

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 08:40 AM

37. Since WHEN does reality crush illusion?

Most every sacred belief or strongly-held philosophy around the globe is based on illusion. The structure of nation-states, economic systems, political parties, and family and social structures are constructed from illusions, built out on illusory foundations, and buttressed by illusions.

Trump will be gone, hopefully sooner rather than later, but his cult will live on long past his (fingers crossed) brief time in the office. I fully expect the motherfucker to be a folk hero to the Right for a generation or more.

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